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The Trek
From the Appalachian Trail to the Pacific Crest and everything in between. Backpacker Radio is a show all about the wonderful world that is thru-hiking and long distance backpacking.
Co-hosts, Zach "Badger" Davis and Juliana "Chaunce" Chauncey muse on the backpacking life and the latest from the trail every other week. Topics include but are not limited to news, trail culture, interviews, gear, advice, and all you can eat buffets.
Co-hosts, Zach "Badger" Davis and Juliana "Chaunce" Chauncey muse on the backpacking life and the latest from the trail every other week. Topics include but are not limited to news, trail culture, interviews, gear, advice, and all you can eat buffets.
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Apr 11, 2022 • 2h 6min
#144 | Linnea "Otter" Delucchi
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Linnea Delucchi, known on trail as Otter. Otter is a 2017 PCT thru-hiker, has a Masters in Adventure Education, and now serves as the Assistant Director at New Treks, an organization that teaches outdoor education to underprivileged youth. This convo covers a lot of ground, including the cognitive effects of spending time in nature and hiking specifically (and how wearing headphones could potentially negatively impact that), we get an overview of some Denver-based non-profits focused on the outdoors- including an in-depth work of Linnea's organization, and Linnea blesses us with an all-time poop story from her PCT thru-hike. We wrap the show with a rapid fire Q&A with The Trek's new intern, Rachel, we do a triple crown of things people complain about as they get older, and Chaunce reveals herself as an Oscars slap truther. Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at gossamergear.com. Greenbelly: Use code “trek2022” for off at greenbelly.co. Enlightened Equipment: Use code “ultralight10” for 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com. Interview with Linnea “Otter” Delucchi Linnea’s Instagram New Treks Donate to New Treks Time stamps & Questions 00:04:20 - QOTD: Where were you when the news broke of Will Smith slapping Chris Rock? 00:09:25 - BPR Announcements: Asheville Meetup Hi-Wire Brewing RAD Beer Garden, May 11, 6:30pm 00:11:25 - Introducing Linnea 00:12:40 - Tell us your outdoor background. 00:14:23 - If you had to pick one outdoor sport, what would you pick? 00:15:10 - How long have you lived in Colorado? 00:15:54 - Tell us about graduate school. 00:16:37 - What direction did you think your career would go as an undergraduate? 00:17:28 - What’s the craziest thing about the brain? 00:18:40 - What’s the difference between people who hike with headphones and those who don’t? 00:19:28 - Does it matter what you’re listening to? 00:20:27 - Tell us about the study design. 00:22:23 - If you were going to run the study again, what variables would you change? 00:24:03 - What do you know about studies related to thru-hiking? 00:26:25 - Discussion about the impacts of technology in nature. 00:27:50 - Did you make a conscious decision not to listen to technology on the PCT? 00:30:15 - Tell us more about the brain. 00:33:50 - What do you think the cognitive benefits of a thru-hike are? 00:36:20 - How would you convince someone like Chaunce to get out in nature more? 00:39:25 - Do you think adrenaline junkies have less of a fear response? 00:42:25 - What turned you on to the PCT in the first place? 00:43:47 - Was backpacking a hard sell for you given the other sports you like? 00:45:42 - Do you have any crazy injury stories? 00:48:37 - Are there sports you won’t try? 00:49:35 - Tell us your poop story. 00:55:06 - Tell us about New Treks. 00:57:28 - What’s your role at New Treks? 00:58:20 - Do you notice different ways that the kids you work with interact with the outdoors? 01:01:18 - How do you get the kids excited for the activities? 01:02:40 - How much time do you spend with each group? 01:05:05 - How often do you see kids get really into the activities? 01:06:55 - Does one story stand out as the most meaningful? 01:09:22 - Is it tough to maintain a positive attitude? 01:12:03 - How long has New Treks been in existence? 01:12:20 - How do you start something like New Treks? 01:13:42 - Can you explain the funding side of New Treks? 01:17:04 - Tell us about the other Denver-based nonprofits you wrote about. 01:24:22 - Did you learn about these organizations recently or already know about them? 01:26:12 - Do you have advice for anyone interested in getting into outdoor education? 01:27:54 - What’s next for you? 01:28:48 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda Eight Denver-Based Nonprofits Working in the Outdoors by Linnea Delucchi 7 Badass Woman Thru-Hikers Who Inspire Me to Hit the Trails by Anna McKinney Triple Crown of things people start to complain about as they get older Mail Bag New Intern Q&A 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, and Jason Snailer. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

Apr 4, 2022 • 2h 4min
#143 | Sophia "Wheelz" Garber
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by former Trek Vlogger, Sophia "Wheelz" Garber. Wheelz was a member of the AT NOBO turned NOGO class of 2020, due to the pandemic- duh. Her shot at redemption didn't have to wait too long, as Sophia ended up completing her mission to hike the AT the very next year. We learn what it was like to be on trail during the early days of the pandemic, how it felt to deal with social media trolls when trying to decide whether to stay or go (and the challenge of even getting off trail), the role Sophia's recently deceased friend played in her motivation to hike, and how thru-hiking compared to Sophia's 4,000-mile bikepacking trip just a couple years prior. Things fall off the rails a bit in the segments, as we answer a couple of listener voicemail questions, do a triple crown of thru-hiker no-no's, and a listener accuses Chaunce of having stinky privates. Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at gossamergear.com. Organifi: Use code “backpacker” for 20% off at organifi.com/backpacker. Enlightened Equipment: Use code “ultralight10” for 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com. Interview with Sophia “Wheelz” Garber Sophia's Instagram Be the Sun Design Co Instagram Be the Sun Design Co Website First Descents Website Sophia’s Hiker? I Barely Know Her Shirt Time stamps & Questions 00:04:39 - QOTD: Are there more doors or wheels in the entire world? 00:10:41 - BPR Announcements: Asheville Meetup Location May 11, 6:30pm 00:11:55 - Introducing Sophia 00:13:48 - Tell us about your cross-country bike adventure. 00:15:12 - What group did you bike with? 00:17:02 - Awkward silence. 00:17:12 - What would you pick between being on foot or being on a bike? 00:20:28 - Did you know anyone going into the bike ride? 00:21:07 - What if someone wants to quit? 00:21:57 - What kind of roads did you bike on? 00:22:15 - Was there any carryover between your biking gear and your hiking gear? 00:23:55 - Were there trail names on the bike ride? 00:24:35 - What would your next long bike ride be? 00:25:08 - Did the ride feel rushed at all? 00:26:04 - At what point did you realize you wanted to do the AT? 00:29:40 - Tell us about starting the AT on March 15, 2020. 00:30:38 - Discussion about getting off trail. 00:33:40 - Tell us about being on the receiving end of social media comments? 00:36:25 - What were the vibes on trail before you got off? 00:39:02 - Did you know right away that you’d re-attempt the trail the next year? 00:41:02 - Tell us more about Cristal and fundraising for the Ulman House. 00:46:38 - What led you to working for the Ulman House? 00:49:37 - Have you heard of the program First Descents? 00:50:18 - What was your fundraising goal? 00:53:21 - Having started the trail twice, did you prepare any differently the second time? 00:54:01 - What did it feel like to do horrible climbs twice at the start of the AT? 00:55:12 - What was your experience vlogging on trail? 00:56:40 - What was your editing practice and how long did editing take? 00:58:10 - Did you ever get weird comments? 01:00:31 - How often did you hike alone? 01:03:00 - Tell us your poop story. 01:07:30 - Tell us about aqua blazing. 01:11:55 - What’s another not boring story? 01:14:35 - Tell us about your woodburning side hustle. 01:16:14 - Where can people find your site? 01:17:49 - Did you go to school for art? 01:18:20 - Discussion about stick and poke tattoos. 01:19:40 - Tell us about your upcoming hiking plans. 01:21:10 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Shaming Chaunce Trek Propaganda Thru-Hiking with a Partner? Save Weight (and Money) by Sharing Gear by Kelly Floro Listener Voicemails Triple Crown of thru-hiker no-no’s Mail Bag 5 Star Review Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Matt Soukup, and Jason Snailer. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

Mar 28, 2022 • 2h 16min
#142 | Peter Bergman
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Peter Bergman. In a nutshell, Peter is the ultimate wildcard. His hiking resume, which includes a completed section hike of the PCT and a cross country hike from his front door in Denver to Mt. of the Holy Cross- doesn't even begin to tell his story. We learn about the life of an art professor, some of most ridiculous projects, which toes the line between art and prank, and his latest release, PaCT, a series of projects related to his two-part section hike of the PCT, the first chunk as a 23-year-old, and the rest at twice the age of 46. Chaunce and Badger were thoroughly entertained during this one, you will be too. We wrap the show with a special triple crown, Elise edition, some surprise birthday wishes to Chaunce - including a voicemail that had us LMAO'ing, and much more. Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at gossamergear.com. Organifi: Use code “backpacker” for 20% off at organifi.com/backpacker. Enlightened Equipment: Use code “ultralight10” for 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com. Bedrock Sandals: Head to bedrocksandals.com today! [divider] Interview with Peter Bergman An Address: Institute of Sociometry is PRESS Website is PRESS Instagram PaCT Website PaCT Report Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:04:38 - QOTD: What is something every junk drawer must have in order to be considered a proper junk drawer? 00:09:03 - BPR Announcements: Denver Hiker Meetup April 5, New Intern 00:13:30 - Introducing Peter 00:13:36 - What’s your elevator pitch? 00:14:53 - Tell us about being a professor. 00:15:54 - What percentage of your students would you say are garbage people? 00:16:58 - What is your favorite course to teach? 00:17:57 - What’s the most memorable art project you’ve seen while teaching? 00:20:20 - What’s your take on the Van Gogh exhibit? 00:20:51 - What’s your take on Meow Wolf? 00:21:51 - What’s your overall experience as an artist? 00:27:18 - Would you say there’s a theme among Cabriolet owners? 00:28:33 - Tell us about the postcards. 00:31:49 - How did you not get shot? 00:33:28 - How do you differentiate between art and entertainment? 00:33:58 - What’s the name of the documentary? 00:34:38 - What was it like during/in the pre-Jackass, Southern California, skate-punk scene? 00:36:20 - What about skateboarding created that culture? 00:38:17 - What’s your take on Jackass? 00:38:57 - Discussion about free library project. 00:43:38 - Are you currently in the midst of any pranks? 00:51:15 - Tell us about the PCT section in 1996. 00:55:10 - Discussion about deciding to finish the trail in 2019. 00:56:06 - Discussion about hike from Denver to Mt. Holy Cross. 00:56:40 - How much of that route was off-trail vs. on roads? 00:56:58 - Discussion about returning to the PCT in 2019. 00:57:17 - How do Peter and Elise know each other? 00:58:25 - How did you end up with two feet of Dylan’s hair around your neck? 00:59:25 - Discussion about the hair collection. 01:02:16 - Discussion about the time capsule. 01:08:10 - Discussion about getting off trail in 1996. 01:12:14 - With your exciting hobbies off-trail, how did you keep yourself entertained on trail? 01:16:06 - As someone who is a professor, how would you assign an on-trail project to hikers as if they were students? 01:19:27 - Walk us through the flipbook, zine, and book. 01:21:25 - Discussion about book printing. 01:24:20 - Discussion about the time between 1996 and 2019. 01:25:09 - How did your dad respond to the book? 01:25:34 - How many books are left? 01:25:53 - Discussion about badgers. 01:28:29 - Tell us about the snowstorm. 01:34:20 - Discussion about completing the trail in 2019. 01:37:12 - What were the primary differences between the two hikes? 01:41:43 - What was your gear like in 1996? 01:43:57 - What’s your poop story? 01:49:22 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda Matthew “Odie” Norman to Retire from Hiker Yearbook Project by Penina Satlow Triple Crown of Elise Chaunce’s Birthday Well-Wishes 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyonthedrums Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Matt Soukup, and Jason Snailer. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

Mar 21, 2022 • 2h 38min
#141 | Andy Laub
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Andy Laub. Andy is a thru-hiker, documentarian, cinematographer, director, editor, visual effects artist...basically all things under the sun dealing with making videos. His work has been featured on the Discovery Channel, National Geographic, BBC World, Amazon Prime, Hulu & PBS World Channel. His first trail documentary, As It Happens, has more than a million views on YouTube. We chat all about his backpacking career, what goes into a professional video production, juggling his adventures while being a parent of two youngsters, and we go deep on his latest project, THRU, a six-part series featuring his 2018 thru-hike of the Pacific Northwest Trail. Whether you nerd out on video stuff or not, I guarantee you'll enjoy this chat. It's a fun one. We wrap the show with a more formal announcement of the winner of the Backpacker Radio Sponsorship, we get a fan submission patent-pending about drinking sunscreen, and do a triple crown of thru-hiking phrases, clichés, and acronyms. Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at gossamergear.com. Organifi: Use code “backpacker” for 20% off at organifi.com/backpacker. Enlightened Equipment: Use code “ultralight10” for 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com. Bedrock Sandals: Head to bedrocksandals.com today! Interview with Andy Laub Watch THRU here @thru_film on Instagram @laub.films on Instagram andylaubfilms.com @pjoart on Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:06:22 - QOTD: Do you Wordle? 00:10:12 - BPR Announcements: Trail Days Road Trip & Meetup Location 00:14:56 - Introducing Andy Laub 00:15:20 - Where’d you get into backpacking? 00:17:42 - What was your AT start date? 00:18:35 - Did you start at the stars? 00:19:41 - When you’re stuck, do you think like a film narrator? 00:20:01 - Were you in front of or behind the camera? 00:20:56 - Discussion of on-camera hand gestures and film angles 00:22:14 - Is there a bubble in February on the AT? 00:23:05 - What research did you do pre-trail? 00:24:30 - Tell us about meeting your first trail friend. 00:25:33 - Tell us about The Dusty Camel. 00:27:02 - Tell us about your time at the Discovery Channel. 00:28:45 - What’s Ian’s background at this point? 00:29:14 - Was the idea for the PCT film first or the idea to hike? 00:29:25 - Tell us about the PCT in 2011. 00:32:10 - What was your film equipment and how heavy was it? 00:32:35 - How do you decide who films what? 00:34:06 - Is it tough to capture both the highs and the lows? 00:36:53 - Is it harder for you to be in front of or behind the camera? 00:38:19 - What doors did As It Happens open for you? 00:39:16 - How did the National Geographic Society project come about? 00:41:05 - How did you go from As It Happens to the production value of THRU? 00:43:22 - What other equipment do you have on trail? 00:44:39 - Discussion about the cinematography and camera gear of THRU. 00:47:48 - What was the secret videography weapon Chaunce brought on the AT? 00:48:28 - What’s the process of making a documentary? 00:51:22 - Are you recording your flashbacks while hiking? 00:52:18 - Are you directing all of the footage on trail? 00:53:40 - Do you decide what you want the scenes to look like while hiking? 00:57:09 - How do you keep everyone on the same page? 01:00:16 - Do you need to have a lot of patience or social awareness? 01:03:07 - How did you put the group together? 01:04:44 - What packs did you use? 01:07:47 - Discussion about the group dynamic. 01:09:40 - Discussion about square tarps and gear weight. 01:10:03 - Is there a way to lighten heavy camera equipment? 01:11:27 - What are your three top tips to take something amateur and make it look high class? 01:14:34 - If you could go back and critique As It Happens, what feedback would you give? 01:16:16 - Are there ever moments you wish you could have captured on camera? 01:19:25 - What is THRU? 01:22:46 - Did you have any crazy grizzly encounters or oh shit moments? 01:27:25 - Do death-defying moments hit differently now that you have kids? 01:31:37 - Who does the graphics in THRU? 01:33:20 - What’s the dumbest thing you did on the hike? 01:34:12 - Discussion about the PNT’s trail types, usage, and season/weather window. 01:37:11 - Did you miss any miles? 01:37:56 - What’s your full trail resume? 01:38:25 - What are some of the films you made between trails? 01:41:56 - How do you maintain your positivity in the face of climate change? 01:43:34 - Discussion about climate change. 01:48:22 - What’s your dream project? 01:51:30 - Were you on the fence about bringing a drone? 01:53:45 - Discussion about the future of the PNT and value of the National Scenic Trails. 01:56:54 - How can people watch THRU? 01:58:43 - Will there be a season 2? 02:01:25 - Lobster facts! 02:04:17 - Discussion about trees. 02:06:00 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda Tell Us Your Story: How Has Thru-Hiking Changed Your Life? Meet the Winner of the 2022 Backpacker Radio Sponsorship! Listener Voicemail Triple Crown of hiking catchphrases/lingo 5 Star Review Trail Days [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyonthedrums Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Matt Soukup, and Jason Snailer. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

Mar 14, 2022 • 1h 17min
#140 | Hiking the Appalachian Trail pt 2: How to Train, Dangerous Wildlife, and More
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are running back the Appalachian Trail panel. This time, your favorite cinnamon connection are working in tandem to share some more of their top, trail-tested advice for hiking the AT. This includes how to prevent against the biggest threat presented by the Trail, the right resupply strategy (or lack thereof), how to train for the Trail, and much more. We wrap the show with a triple crown of traits you'd want in a hiking partner and we chat about some of our favorite down jacket options. Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at Gossamergear.com. Enlightened Equipment: Save 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket with code “ultralight10” here. Bedrock Sandals: Head to www.bedrocksandals.com today! AT Panel with Chaunce & Badger Time stamps & Questions 00:03:48 - QOTD: How do you feel about mint chocolate chip ice cream? 00:10:40 - BPR Announcements: WE ARE GOING TO TRAIL DAYS! 00:13:10 - Badger Tip #1: Permethrin your clothes! 00:19:34 - Chaunce Tip #1: Give shelters a shot 00:23:47 - Badger Tip #2: Dry out your gear 00:25:21 - Don’t worry about tidying your pack 00:26:52 - Chaunce Tip #2: Train vertically 00:28:34 - Alternatives to stair stepper machines 00:30:38 - Why running isn’t enough training for the AT 00:31:47 - Badger Tip #3: Don’t pre-plan resupplies on the AT Food planning for the A.T. 00:40:22 - Chaunce Tip #3: Instead of researching sights, research trail towns and history 00:44:29 - Be sure to have a seasoned hiker give you a shake down 00:49:15 - Panel wrap up SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda: Best down jackets for thru-hiking by Kelly Floro Join The Trek Newsletter (see bottom of webpage) Triple Crown of traits you want in a hiking partner Listener Voicemails 5 Star Review Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, and Matt Soukup. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

Mar 7, 2022 • 1h 58min
#139 | David "AWOL" Miller
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by David "AWOL" Miller. If you know anything about the AT, then that name is likely already familiar to you as AWOL is the author of not one but TWO of the most popular books related to the Trail, including Miller's Memoir, "AWOL on the Appalachian Trail", and "The AT Guide" which AWOL has since sold. We talk all about Miller's writing process, the incredible amount of work that went into bringing The AT Guide to life, why he decided to sell the guidebook to Anti Gravity Gear, what he's been up to since, and much more We close out the show with a chaotic series of segments, including a triple crown of grocery store aisles followed by listener voicemails which somehow devolves into a conversation about the Mason Dixon line of sperm potency. But first. Good To-Go: Use code “bpr25” HEREto save 25% on your next order. Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at Gossamergear.com. Bedrock Sandals: Head to www.bedrocksandals.comtoday! Hike the InternationalAppalachian Trail, Ulster-Ireland: Go to www.iatulsterireland.comto learn more about this beautiful hike! Interview with David “AWOL” Miller sponsored by Good To-Go Time stamps & Questions 00:05:32 -QOTD: What’s the worst recent injury you’ve sustained?And… What is your weird pet peeve? 00:10:02 - BPR Announcements: Badger Sponsorship Results, Internship Apps have closed, & Trail Days 00:12:45 - Introducing David “AWOL” Miller 00:13:05 - How much trail press have you done? 00:13:44 - Who were you before you became “AWOL”? 00:15:06 - What was your hiking experience prior to hiking the AT? 00:16:02 - Were you in Florida prior to your AT hike? 00:16:42 - Are there any mountains in Florida? 00:18:00 - What was the official title of your guide? 00:18:27 - Any favorite stories from your journey? 00:19:53 - What was the AT culture like in 2003? 00:21:56 - Did you plan on writing your memoir prior to the hike? 00:23:06 - Did you save the newspaper clippings? 00:23:17 - Did you use your articles in the memoir? 00:24:33 - Do you have a specific writing methodology? 00:25:40 - Was it challenging to open up in your memoir? 00:26:43 - What were your thoughts on “A Walk in the Woods”? 00:28:10 - Is your book the second most popular of AT books? 00:30:48 - What was the writing process like? 00:35:33 - How did the partnership with Amazon work? 00:37:14 - What goes into a good guide book? 00:40:20 - What are the logistical steps to make a guide happen? 00:41:31 - Are you using a digital mapping system? 00:42:20 - How did you approach all the changes that happen to the trail? 00:44:08 - What does it take to get the non-technical information 00:46:56 - What percentage of the year was dedicated to guide research? 00:47:37 - Tell us about selling the guidebook 00:49:28 - How did you see the book evolve? 00:52:48 - Tell us about your other hobbies (golfing, ballroom dancing, etc.) 00:54:09 - Future book topics 00:55:20 - What’s your exercise routine like these days? 00:57:23 - What does the new digital guide look like? 00:59:55 - What’s your take on what the next big thing will be for trail guides? 01:03:05 - What are you focusing on now these days? 01:04:52 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda: ZOLEO Satellite Communicator Reviewby Carl Stanfield Rough Start to Your Thru-Hike? It Could Be Because of Your Diet by Terry “Finder” Rice Voicemail Segment: Leave us one here! Triple Crown of grocery store aisles Mail Bag Thank you again, Good To-Go! Try Zach's favorite, Mushroom Risotto,and use code "bpr25" at checkout for 25% off. [divider] Check out our sound guy@Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes(and please leave us a review)! Find us onSpotify,Stitcher, andGoogle Play. Support us on Patreonto get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio FollowThe Trek,Chaunce,Badger, and Trail Correspondentson Instagram. FollowThe TrekandChaunceon YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, and Matt Soukup. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

Feb 28, 2022 • 1h 41min
#138 | Hiking the AT: How to Prepare, Reduce Pack Weight, and Transition Post Trail
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are talking all things Appalachian Trail (drink?). Everybody's favorite honorary third co-host, Jabba, joins us in a roundtable of tips we would offer someone looking to take on a long distance backpacking trip on the AT (drink). We touch on budgeting tips, ways to reduce your pack weight, advice for ensuring you complete your goal, insight on how to transition post-trail, and much more. We round out the show with a triple crown of dance moves, some fast facts from the AT Class of 2021, and a fun announcement about the cinnamon connection's very own visit to the AT this year (drink). Good To-Go: Use code “bpr25” HERE to save 25% on your next order. Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at Gossamergear.com. Hike the International Appalachian Trail, Ulster-Ireland: Go to www.iatulsterireland.com to learn more about this beautiful hike! AT Panel with Chaunce, Badger, & Jabba Time stamps & Questions 00:05:08 - QOTD: What is the correct thermostat temperature for sleeping? 00:11:13 - BPR Announcements: We’ll be at Trail Days! 00:12:23 - Introducing the AT Panel 00:13:28 - Badger’’s Tip #1: For NOBOs, earlier start dates may be favorable but southern Appalachia weather may not agree 00:21:05 - AT hiking experience 00:22:13 - Chaunce’s Tip #1: Avoid the town experiences in the beginning, so you can slow down later on the trail 00:25:04 - Jabba’s Tip #1: Have some type of game-plan for post-trail life 00:31:06 - Badger’’s Tip #2: Mentally prepare yourself for the hike 00:34:15 - Did your “Why?” ever changed on a hike? 00:34:54 - What was your “why” for the PCT in comparison to the AT? 00:44:06 - Chaunce’s Tip #2: Keep a stricter budget 00:44:57 - How do we feel about hiker “Go Fund Me” pages? 00:54:44 - Jabba’s Tip #2: Figure out your footwear 01:02:53 - Badger’’s Tip #3: You don’t need as much water on the AT 01:11:45 - Chaunce’s Tip #3: Strategize your days around the rain, when convenient 01:14:11 - If you’re going to hike the AT, get Verizon! 01:15:25 - Let’s family/friends know when you won’t be having service 01:16:47 - Jabba’s Tip #3: Experience the social bubble & allow yourself to pivot 01:19:20 - Panel wrap-up, thanks Jabba! SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda: TLDR: Summarizing the 2021 Appalachian Trail Thru Hiker Survey (Plus Hikers’ Favorite Sections of the Trail) by Joal & Jenny Triple Crown of dance moves 5 Star Review “Love is Blind” Debrief [divider] Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, and Matt Soukup. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

Feb 17, 2022 • 2h 30min
#137 | Andrew Skurka 3.0
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, Andrew Skurka returns! Again. In studio. Not that you need any convincing to continue listening, but this chat starts normal and devolves into Chaunce tricking him into saying that he'll do sexual things a bug. We also talk about the new normal of backpacking in the West, we learn about the Skurka Scholarship, and we get a detailed overview of the backcountry bidet butt cleaning technique. This one has it all. We do a triple crown of reality tv shows, share the sad news of the passing of a beloved PCT trail angel, and give a last call for our internship application. [divider] LISTEN Download this episode. [divider] Good To-Go: Use code “BPR25” HERE to save 25% on your next order. Free shipping on orders over $100. Enlightened Equipment: Save 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket with code “ultralight10” here. Hike the International Appalachian Trail, Ulster-Ireland: Go to www.iatulsterireland.com to learn more about this beautiful hike! [divider] Interview with Andrew Skurka Time stamps & Questions 00:04:41 - QOTD: What is everyone binging on Netflix right now? 00:12:24 - Reminders: Internship opportunity 00:14:16 - Introducing Andrew Skurka 00:14:57 - What has changed for you since 2021? 00:17:20 - How many minutes a mile do you average? 00:17:58 - How does your passion for running compare to your thru-hiking? 00:19:18 - What does your off season look like? 00:19:50 - Are you wrecked after one of these marathons? 00:21:05 - How many miles are you averaging a week? 00:21:42 - How do you break up your miles throughout the week? 00:22:23 - Why do you prefer road running? 00:22:58 - Has running dulled your excitement for long distance hiking? 00:25:51 - Do you use the van on guiding trips? 00:27:00 - The Guiding Business 00:28:52 - Is there a limit to your trips? 00:30:37 - What makes a good guide? 00:31:40 - What becomes stressful during the trips? 00:33:11 - What happened in 2014? 00:36:42 - Tell us about the guiding services you offer 00:37:30 - What’s the most difficult aspect of a guiding business? 00:38:27 - What does the Olympic Mountains trip have that others don’t? 00:41:21 - What factors do you take into account for trip cancellations? 00:42:54 - Do you think forest closures will becomes more and more common? 00:44:50 - Do you think strict fire-starting rules will be put into place? 00:45:40 - How do you feel about the condition of the West? 00:47:00 - Where are you house hunting? 00:49:42 - What’s your advice for CDT and PCT SOBOs? 00:51:45 - Do you think hikers need to strengthen snow skills? 00:52:24 - Which of your new trips are you most excited about? 00:53:11 - What do you look for when you scout out a new trip? 00:53:48 - Do you plan bailouts? 00:54:19 - What are the deadlines for applying for your trips? 00:54:45 - How many applications do you commonly receive? 00:55:36 - Do you use waitlists? 00:57:17 - How do you weed out applicants? 00:59:50 - Guide Hiring 01:02:21- What got you interested in birding? 01:04:32 - Skurka Scholarship 01:05:43 - Diversity of guiding trips 01:09:13 - Skurka Scholarship deadline - Feb 21st 01:10:48 - Thoughts on gear innovation 01:16:30 - What are your thoughts on inReach Mini 2? 01:22:22 - What other categories have innovation opportunities? 01:24:26 - What’s your least favorite flying insect? 01:25:24 - Fuck, Marry, Kill: Insect version 01:27:36 - Anything else gear-related? 01:29:45 - State of content-websites 01:32:26 - How do affiliate links? 01:34:45 - What’s the future of content websites? 01:36:49 - Voicemail Listener Questions - Backcountry bidet etiquette 01:46:59 - Listener Question - High Sierra in a high snow year 01:47:18 - Listener Question - High route development 01:48:38 - Listener Question - Who does Skurka follow in the outdoor space? 01:50:48 - Find Andrew Skurka: www.andrewskurka.com SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda: (Almost) Every PCT Town, Ranked by Taylor Bell Sympathies to the Jerry Dinsmore family Triple Crown of reality tv shows 5 Star Reviews Thank you to our Title Sponsor, Good To-Go, Zach’s favorite meals on trail. Place your order at www.goodto-go.com and use code “BPR25” at checkout for 25% off! [divider] Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, and Matt Soukup. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

Feb 14, 2022 • 2h 2min
#136 | Ryan "Constantine" Bunting
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Ryan Bunting, known on trail as Constantine. Constantine may already be a familiar name, as he was recently featured on a Trek Propaganda segment about becoming the youngest person to hike all 11 National Scenic Trails at the age of 27 years. He put a bow on the achievement by setting the Fastest Known Time on the North Country Trail alongside his girlfriend, Magpie. Seeing that this is a Valentine's Day episode, we go deep into the origin story of Constantine and Magpie's relationship, we get a rundown on which were his favorite and least favorite National Scenic Trails and why, and a hilariously awkward poop story. We wrap the show with an almost announcement of the winner of the Backpacker Radio Sponsorship winner, the triple crown of national scenic trails, and the odd ways in which Chaunce and I are attempting to stay fit. Gossamer Gear discount code: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at Gossamergear.com. Good To-Go: Use code “BPR25” HERE to save 25% on your next order. [divider] Interview with Ryan “Constantine” Bunting Time stamps & Questions 00:07:33 - QOTD: Are you training for hiking season yet? 00:19:08 - Reminders: The BPR Sponsorship recipient has been chosen & internship opportunity reminder 00:24:10 - Welcome Constantine! 00:24:52 - Do you know how many miles you’ve accrued? 00:25:20 - When did you get started hiking? 00:26:00 - What are the National Scenic Trails? 00:27:28 - When did you fall in love with the long trails? 00:28:37 - Did you hike them in the traditional order? 00:28:45 - Did you know you wanted to do all 11? 00:30:25 - Did you know you could become the youngest to complete them all? 00:31:18 - How many people have completed them all? 00:33:20 - Tell us about the Potomac Trail 00:35:45 - Fuck, Marry, Kill: PCT, AT, or CDT 00:36:00 - What 3 scenic trails would you get rid of? 00:37:33 - What’s the rest of the chronology? 00:39:37 - How many miles was that in 2021? 00:41:44 - What’s your take on the Florida Trail? 00:42:50 - How many alligators did you see? 00:44:08 - What made you swear off the state of Alabama in 2019? 00:45:28 - Any other details on the Potamac hike? 00:46:45 - Did you end up doing 35s on these trails? 00:47:40 - What food issues did you have on trail? 00:47:46 - What did you change with your food strategy? 00:51:05 - Given you experience, how did the transition to the NCT go? 00:52:07 - Did you hike the trail westbound? 00:52:23 - When did you start the NCT? 00:53:17 - Does snow deter you? 00:55:52 - Did you have a satellite communicator with you during the hypothermia scare? 00:56:40 - Do you recall what you were wearing? 00:56:56 - Walk us through the hypothermic experience 01:00:08 - The Magpie love story 01:12:55 - Can you compare your relationship on trail vs. off trail? 01:14:47 - What were the highlights of the NCT? 01:17:39 - Have you been able to pinpoint the timeframe between hiking and getting the bug to hike again? 01:18:36 - What do you enjoy about the non-stop hiking? 01:20:30 - Do you go out of your way to talk to locals? 01:21:44 - How are you able to fund these hikes? 01:22:50 - What’s your company? ElevenSkys 01:23:45 - How do you go about starting an apparel company? 01:26:26 - What’s your go-to pair of shorts? 01:26:38 - Tell us your 2022 hiking plans 01:29:30 - The Donut Story 01:31:48 - Constantine’s Poop Story 01:33:58 - Find Constantine here: ElevenSkys, Instagram SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda: Hearing Gunfire on the AT Near Hawk Mountain? Don’t Worry, That’s Normal Trevor Spikes Program to Ship Discounted Microspikes to PCT Hikers in Memory of Trevor Laher Triple Crown of National Scenic Trails Mail Bag 5 Star Reviews [divider] Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, and Matt Soukup. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

Feb 1, 2022 • 2h 57min
#135 | Hiking the PCT: Logistics, Preparation, & Gear Advice
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, we are diving into all things Pacific Crest Trail related. This is another panel featuring our hero and fellow PCT hiker, Elise Ott aka Sauce, and in it we share our best advice in regards to training, logistical prep, gear advice, ideal start dates, pacing, dealing with extreme temperatures, and much more. If you're planning a long-distance trek on the PCT, whether a section hike or a thru, you will glean valuable insights from this one. We wrap the show with a slew of segments in celebration of Backpacker Radio turning four years old, including some trivia, a listener voicemail, Trek propaganda, and more. Gossamer Gear discount code: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at Gossamergear.com. Enlightened Equipment: Save 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket with code “thetrek” here. Save 20% at Organifi with code "BACKPACKER" PCT Panel with Chaunce, Badger, & Sauce Time stamps & Questions 00:05:45 - QOTD: What’s been your most iconic moment of Backpacker Radio over the past 4 years? 00:12:13 - Reminders: Elise’s Announcement & Internship Opportunity 00:18:30 - Mara thinks she’s fired 00:27:35 - Introducing the PCT Panel 00:21:16 - Chaunce’s Tip #1: No bulking seasons 00:38:00 - Elise’s Tip #1: Don’t over plan 00:43:27 - Zach’s Tip #1: 3 steps to prep 00:49:20 - Zach’s Southbound Advice: It’s all about timing 00:52:38 - Having a good diet on-trail 00:53:52 - Zach’s healthy hiking food recommendations 00:59:48 - Chaunce’s Tip #2: Shipping food on PCT 01:04:50 - Packing out morale-boosting snacks/drinks 01:08:15 - Elise’s Tip #2: PCT start dates 01:14:20 - Elise’s snow experience in September 01:20:30 - Zach’s Tip #2: Heat Training 01:29:37 - Electrolytes in the desert 01:32:00 - Gear Setups 01:32:14 - What tents did everyone use? 01:43:33 - What’s everyone’s sleep system? 02:00:40 - What backpacks did everyone use? 02:10:40 - Is the BPR crew outdated with their gear? 02:21:00 - Voicemail Question: What’s your opinion on PCT resupplying? 02:30:38 - Elise’s advice for a snow year: collaborate with a group SEGMENTS BPR’s Top 10 Cities Countries w/ 1 BPR Download 4 Year Trivia Answers Dragonfly = 4 weeks, Houseflies = 4 months, Guinea Pig = 4 years Who is the 4th richest American? Larry Ellison of Oracle What hike did Jabba complete in 2018? Colorado Trail You have $4 for a meal, what do you buy? 4-Themed Trek Propaganda Articles Four Reasons Why I Will Thru-Hike the A.T. at Forty by Heather Oconnell Four Things I Will Never Hike Without Again by Claire Dumont Our Colorado Trail Gear Lists: The Big Four by Kate Houston 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, and Matt Soukup. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.