Backpacker Radio

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, we are joined by author, mountaineer, and keynote speaker, Dr. Jon Kedrowski.  Dr. Jon's list of accomplishments are staggeringly long, including sleeping at the summit of all the Colorado 14'ers, multiple Everest summits, playing D-1college basketball at Valparaiso, guiding and befriending Mike Posner, and much more.  We catch Dr. Jon very off-guard with a well-timed, fuck, marry, kill, we learn about the standout geography features of each of the Colorado mountain ranges, and what it's like to encounter death on Everest. We wrap the show with a triple crown of minor injuries that hurt like fuck and we bring back a listener favorite segment — would you rather.   Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at gossamergear.com.  Organifi: Use code “backpacker” for 20% off at organifi.com/backpacker. Greenbelly: Use code “trek2022” for off at greenbelly.co. Enlightened Equipment: Use code “ultralight10” for 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.  Interview with Dr. Jon Kedrowski Dr. Jon's Instagram Dr. Jon's Website Time stamps & Questions 00:04:41 - QOTD: What are you most excited about for Trail Days? 00:11:13 - BPR Announcements: Trail Days Road Trip, Asheville Meetup May 11, 6:30pm, subscribe to be alerted of new BPR episodes! 00:14:30 - Introducing Dr. Jon Kedrowski 00:15:50 - Tell us your mountaineering origin story. 00:19:08 - Were you the youngest person to hike all of Colorado’s 14’ers? 00:21:25 - How did you get to trailheads during high school? 00:22:24 - Tell us about being a geography professor. 00:24:20 - Was it tough to pursue mountaineering before it was a money-making profession? 00:27:30 - What’s it like to be a part of March Madness? 00:28:23 - What’s the overlap between being a collegiate basketball player and a successful mountaineer? 00:29:29 - For a backpacker, what’s an applicable mantra or philosophy you go by? 00:32:20 - Tell us about the CDT and CT from a geographic perspective. 00:34:48 - How do you compare the San Juans and the Collegiate Peaks? 00:36:41 - If you had to pick one Colorado mountain range for the rest of your life’s adventuring, which would it be? 00:38:20 - Fuck, Marry, Kill: Colorado mountain ranges. 00:40:24 - Do you actually sleep at the top of a mountain? 00:42:19 - What do you do if there’s a storm while you’re sleeping? 00:43:38 - Your tent got struck by lightning? 00:45:38 - Do you lead clients up Everest now? 00:46:56 - Are you in Mike Posner’s new music video? 00:48:39 - Tell us a wild story from hiking with Mike Posner? 00:50:31 - What’s considered good water once you become a snob about it? 00:52:00 - Did you ever not want to get in the water on video? 00:53:03 - Is there one place that stood out to you related to stargazing? 00:56:21 - Do you ever follow established routes or mainly find your own? 00:59:30 - Let’s talk about Everest! 01:01:02 - What’s it like when there’s a tragedy on Everest? 01:03:20 - What went wrong in 2012? 01:08:02 - What’s the atmosphere like when you return to the high camp? 01:08:35 - What’s your personal mental state like when you have to leave someone behind? 01:10:40 - Is there any mental prep work for encountering people who will perish on Everest? 01:13:20 - At one point will Everest become a trail of bodies? 01:15:58 - Is there part of you that gets freaked out going back year after year? 01:17:32 - What would a training program for Everest look like? 01:19:14 - What training could someone do in the gym? 01:21:21 - Tell us about mountaineering gear.  01:23:22 - How much do those sleeping bags and down suits weigh? 01:24:03 - What does your pack typically weigh? 01:25:43 - What size is your pack? 01:26:20 - Tell us about your “no off days” philosophy. 01:27:40 - Are you physically preparing every single day or are you risking burnout? 01:28:42 - How old are you? 01:31:28 - Have you thought about retiring for two weeks like Tom Brady? 01:33:02 - Is part of you wanting to do a calendar Triple? 01:34:05 - What’s your go-to junk food? 01:34:23 - Get a prize for buying Dr. Jon’s new book! 01:36:34 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda Authorities Seek Help Identifying Body Found on Springer Mountain by Kelly Floro Triple Crown of minor injuries that hurt like fuck Would You Rather? Mail Bag 5 Star Review Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, and Jason Snailer. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Hazel Platt known on trail as Platypus.  In addition to thru-hikes of the Appalachian Trail and the Pacific Northwest Trail, Hazel also serves as the Volunteer Engagement Associate for the PCTA.  Hazel is also a queer/trans hiker, going by the he/they pronouns.  We go deep in this interview, learning about Hazel's emotional journey of coming out as a trans hiker during the height of lockdown in the less than welcoming environment of a conservative community in West Virginia.  We also learn about the differences of Hazel's thru-hikes, where they had come out as queer prior to the AT, and trans shortly before embarking on the Pacific Northwest Trail.  We chat about Hazel's love for off-trail hiking, including the highlights and lowlights of navigating on the PNT.  We conclude the interview with an overview of Hazel's work at the PCTA, the importance volunteers play for the Pacific Crest Trail, and what the future beholds for the non-profit. We wrap the show with a check-in from MG, Backpacker Radio's Sponsored hiker, as she gets ready for her SOBO AT thru-hike, we learn about a gentleman hiking the AT carrying a leafblower, and a half-baked patent-pending about how to improve nalgenes. Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at gossamergear.com.  Greenbelly: Use code “trek2022” for off at greenbelly.co. Enlightened Equipment: Use code “ultralight10” for 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.  Interview with Hazel “Platypus” Platt Hazel’s Instagram Pacific Crest Trail Association Website PCTA Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:04:45 - QOTD: How was the Denver Hiker Trash meetup? 00:13:05 - BPR Announcements: Trail Days Road Trip, Asheville Meetup May 11, 6:30pm 00:15:15 - Introducing Hazel 00:15:45 - What’s your backpacking resume? 00:16:42 - What caused you not to finish the Long Trail? 00:17:19 - Did you feel in over your head starting the AT? 00:18:10 - Any notable stories from the AT? 00:19:40 - What was the inspiration to become sober? 00:20:40 - What would you like to share about your coming out process? 00:23:04 - What was the reception like in West Virginia or online? 00:25:35 - Can you walk us through what it was like when the pandemic started for you? 00:29:12 - Tell us about your tech career prior to hiking. 00:33:08 - Did the cloud around gender dysphoria lift at all after coming out? 00:35:35 - Can you speak to some of the common cultural challenges you’re inundated with? 00:40:43 - What comes up for you when someone gets your pronouns wrong? 00:41:47 - What was your experience and reception like on the Pacific Northwest Trail? 00:46:06 - Was there a difference in your hiking experience from the AT to the PNT? 00:48:50 - What was it like going from the community of the AT to the isolation of the PNT? 00:51:04 - Did you see any grizzlies? 00:51:42 - Tell us about the time you got lost. 00:56:54 - Do you know how much more of the trail has been developed in recent years? 00:58:43 - Can you speak to the community you found on trail compared to what you expected? 01:01:24 - Are there places you’d suggest someone look for community prior to hiking? 01:04:15 - Discussion about history. 01:10:40 - Tell us a story that encapsulates the bigger picture history of the AT. 01:13:30 - Tell us a fun fact about plants. 01:15:21 - Tell Zach the story about George Washington, land surveying, and the Fairfax line. 01:20:14 - Tell us about your role with the PCTA. 01:21:20 - Can you tell us more about the role volunteers play for the PCTA? 01:22:56 - Can you speak to some of the biggest challenges of working with volunteers? 01:26:37 - What is your vision for more inclusive programs and messaging within the PCTA? 01:30:18 - How do you see yourself accomplishing your own goals within your work? 01:32:22 - Do you have any parting thoughts to share? 01:36:55 - Thank you! SEGMENTS MG Check-In Trek Propaganda The Colorado Trail Guide: Logistics by Kelly Floro Man Hiking the AT with a Leafblower: Mascot Hikers and Why They Do It by Bloodhound Trail News What is a hike? Patent Pending One Minute Gear Review Plant, Child, and Pupdate Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, and Jason Snailer. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Nika "Early Bird" Meyers.  Nika is a backpacking badass.  Not only is she a triple crowner, but Early Bird has set a pair of speed records, including the unsupported FKT on the Long Trail and the self-supported FKT on the Colorado Trail, which she set last year with a time of 9 days 14 hours, and 19 minutes (keep in mind, this takes most people a full month).  We get a full chronology of Nika's backpacking career, when and where the idea of attempting FKTs first entered her world, her background in competitive skiing, the most important lesson she's learned when attempting thru-hikes, her incredible artwork, and much more. We wrap the show with a series of Elise-centric segments (as she's sitting in for Chaunce today), including how she's preparing, what gear she's using, how she's budgeting for the CDT, and much more.  We also chat about some 4-6 day backpacking trips in the West to put on your bucket list, how thru-hiking has changed our lives, and we get a surprise visit from Jabba at the end of our interview. [divider] LISTEN Download this episode. [divider] Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at gossamergear.com.  Organifi: Use code “backpacker” for 20% off at organifi.com/backpacker. Enlightened Equipment: Use code “ultralight10” for 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.  [divider] Interview with Nika “Early Bird” Meyers Nika's Website Nika's Instagram Nika's Art Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:05:11 - QOTD: What are your hiking plans for this summer? 00:07:27 - BPR Announcements: Trail Days Road Trip, Asheville Meetup May 11, 6:30pm 00:08:30 - Introducing Nika 00:08:56 - How did you get your trail name? 00:10:33 - What’s relevant in your background before you started thru-hiking? 00:13:51 - Did you know right away after the Long Trail that you would do more long trails? 00:15:35 - What kind of animals use the Long Trail as a migratory corridor? 00:16:34 - If you got to list one sport on your tombstone, what would it be? 00:17:23 - Take us from the Long Trail in 2012 to the PCT in 2014. 00:19:03 - How did you manage without your parent’s blessing for starting the PCT? 00:22:00 - How quickly did you hike the Long Trail and the PCT? 00:24:50 - How did you get interested in FKTs? 00:26:27 - Anything else you want to highlight from the PCT? 00:26:56 - What did you do after the PCT? 00:28:25 - What’s harder, a 50-mile day or dealing with high school kids? 00:29:34 - How did you get into environmental education to begin with? 00:32:11 - What was your lifestyle like living in the Cascades? 00:32:55 - Discussion about snow on the PCT. 00:33:40 - What’s your snow hiking technique? 00:35:08 - Did you do a lot of peaks in the Cascades? 00:36:08 - Are you an adrenaline junkie? 00:36:55 - Tell us about the CDT. 00:37:20 - What’s your pack weight like for these hikes? 00:38:54 - What else do you want to share about the CDT? 00:41:54 - Did you feel the same way going from the CDT to AT that you did PCT to CDT? 00:45:07 - What are the biggest differences between those two trails? 00:47:10 - What’s your take on the AT as your last Triple Crown trail? 00:49:02 - Was it difficult to find a way to hike by yourself? 00:51:00 - Was this pink blazing or banana blazing? 00:52:24 - Tell us your poop story. 00:57:41 - Anything notable from the Rim2Rim2Rim? 00:58:23 - What’s the elevation change in the Grand Canyon? 00:58:40 - What’s the R2R2R FKT? 01:00:28 - How fast did you hike the Arizona Trail? 01:00:47 - When did you get the idea of setting FKTs? 01:02:56 - How did you bridge the gap between regimented schedules and having fun? 01:05:56 - How do you plan an FKT without planning daily mileage? 01:08:14 - What was your sleep regimen like? 01:09:00 - Discussion about talking with other hikers while pursuing an FKT. 01:11:22 - Did you utilize caffeine at all? 01:13:42 - Did your appetite ever get back to normal during the Colorado Trail FKT? 01:15:12 - Did you crave anything during an FKT? 01:15:55 - Do you think this will change your food planning for future FKTs? 01:16:42 - Is any part of an FKT Type I fun? 01:18:02 - Do you get anxious about hiking in the middle of the night? 01:19:11 - What’s the time difference between the Long Trail and Colorado Trail FKTs? 01:21:58 - Do you get antsy while waiting for storms to pass? 01:22:48 - Did finishing in better condition have more to do with your training or the terrain? 01:24:08 - Tell us about your art. 01:27:37 - Tell us about the watercolor t-shirt. 01:29:10 - If you could pick one piece to display in your house, which would it be? 01:30:13 - Are a lot of pieces commissioned? 01:30:45 - Where can people catch up with you? 01:31:43 - What’s next for you? 01:32:54 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda Nika ‘Early Bird’ Meyers Sets a New Self-Supported Colorado Trail FKT by Owen Eigenbrot How Has Thru-Hiking Changed Your Life? Hikers Share Their Stories (Part 1) by Penina Satlow Pre-Trail Q&A with Elise Avenza Maps Triple Crown of non-obvious thru-hike prep things Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, and Jason Snailer. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Linnea Delucchi, known on trail as Otter.  Otter is a 2017 PCT thru-hiker, has a Masters in Adventure Education, and now serves as the Assistant Director at New Treks, an organization that teaches outdoor education to underprivileged youth.  This convo covers a lot of ground, including the cognitive effects of spending time in nature and hiking specifically (and how wearing headphones could potentially negatively impact that), we get an overview of some Denver-based non-profits focused on the outdoors- including an in-depth work of Linnea's organization, and Linnea blesses us with an all-time poop story from her PCT thru-hike.  We wrap the show with a rapid fire Q&A with The Trek's new intern, Rachel, we do a triple crown of things people complain about as they get older, and Chaunce reveals herself as an Oscars slap truther.   Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at gossamergear.com.  Greenbelly: Use code “trek2022” for off at greenbelly.co. Enlightened Equipment: Use code “ultralight10” for 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.    Interview with Linnea “Otter” Delucchi Linnea’s Instagram New Treks Donate to New Treks Time stamps & Questions 00:04:20 - QOTD: Where were you when the news broke of Will Smith slapping Chris Rock? 00:09:25 - BPR Announcements: Asheville Meetup Hi-Wire Brewing RAD Beer Garden, May 11, 6:30pm 00:11:25 - Introducing Linnea 00:12:40 - Tell us your outdoor background. 00:14:23 - If you had to pick one outdoor sport, what would you pick? 00:15:10 - How long have you lived in Colorado? 00:15:54 - Tell us about graduate school. 00:16:37 - What direction did you think your career would go as an undergraduate? 00:17:28 - What’s the craziest thing about the brain? 00:18:40 - What’s the difference between people who hike with headphones and those who don’t? 00:19:28 - Does it matter what you’re listening to? 00:20:27 - Tell us about the study design. 00:22:23 - If you were going to run the study again, what variables would you change? 00:24:03 - What do you know about studies related to thru-hiking? 00:26:25 - Discussion about the impacts of technology in nature. 00:27:50 - Did you make a conscious decision not to listen to technology on the PCT? 00:30:15 - Tell us more about the brain. 00:33:50 - What do you think the cognitive benefits of a thru-hike are? 00:36:20 - How would you convince someone like Chaunce to get out in nature more? 00:39:25 - Do you think adrenaline junkies have less of a fear response? 00:42:25 - What turned you on to the PCT in the first place? 00:43:47 - Was backpacking a hard sell for you given the other sports you like? 00:45:42 - Do you have any crazy injury stories? 00:48:37 - Are there sports you won’t try? 00:49:35 - Tell us your poop story. 00:55:06 - Tell us about New Treks. 00:57:28 - What’s your role at New Treks? 00:58:20 - Do you notice different ways that the kids you work with interact with the outdoors? 01:01:18 - How do you get the kids excited for the activities? 01:02:40 - How much time do you spend with each group? 01:05:05 - How often do you see kids get really into the activities? 01:06:55 - Does one story stand out as the most meaningful? 01:09:22 - Is it tough to maintain a positive attitude? 01:12:03 - How long has New Treks been in existence? 01:12:20 - How do you start something like New Treks? 01:13:42 - Can you explain the funding side of New Treks? 01:17:04 - Tell us about the other Denver-based nonprofits you wrote about. 01:24:22 - Did you learn about these organizations recently or already know about them? 01:26:12 - Do you have advice for anyone interested in getting into outdoor education? 01:27:54 - What’s next for you? 01:28:48 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda Eight Denver-Based Nonprofits Working in the Outdoors by Linnea Delucchi  7 Badass Woman Thru-Hikers Who Inspire Me to Hit the Trails by Anna McKinney Triple Crown of things people start to complain about as they get older Mail Bag New Intern Q&A 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, and Jason Snailer. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by former Trek Vlogger, Sophia "Wheelz" Garber.   Wheelz was a member of the AT NOBO turned NOGO class of 2020, due to the pandemic- duh.  Her shot at redemption didn't have to wait too long, as Sophia ended up completing her mission to hike the AT the very next year.   We learn what it was like to be on trail during the early days of the pandemic, how it felt to deal with social media trolls when trying to decide whether to stay or go (and the challenge of even getting off trail), the role Sophia's recently deceased friend played in her motivation to hike, and how thru-hiking compared to Sophia's 4,000-mile bikepacking trip just a couple years prior. Things fall off the rails a bit in the segments, as we answer a couple of listener voicemail questions, do a triple crown of thru-hiker no-no's, and a listener accuses Chaunce of having stinky privates.   Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at gossamergear.com.  Organifi: Use code “backpacker” for 20% off at organifi.com/backpacker. Enlightened Equipment: Use code “ultralight10” for 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.  Interview with Sophia “Wheelz” Garber Sophia's Instagram Be the Sun Design Co Instagram Be the Sun Design Co Website First Descents Website Sophia’s Hiker? I Barely Know Her Shirt Time stamps & Questions 00:04:39 - QOTD: Are there more doors or wheels in the entire world? 00:10:41 - BPR Announcements: Asheville Meetup Location May 11, 6:30pm 00:11:55 - Introducing Sophia 00:13:48 - Tell us about your cross-country bike adventure. 00:15:12 - What group did you bike with? 00:17:02 - Awkward silence. 00:17:12 - What would you pick between being on foot or being on a bike? 00:20:28 - Did you know anyone going into the bike ride? 00:21:07 - What if someone wants to quit? 00:21:57 - What kind of roads did you bike on? 00:22:15 - Was there any carryover between your biking gear and your hiking gear? 00:23:55 - Were there trail names on the bike ride? 00:24:35 - What would your next long bike ride be? 00:25:08 - Did the ride feel rushed at all? 00:26:04 - At what point did you realize you wanted to do the AT? 00:29:40 - Tell us about starting the AT on March 15, 2020. 00:30:38 - Discussion about getting off trail. 00:33:40 - Tell us about being on the receiving end of social media comments? 00:36:25 - What were the vibes on trail before you got off? 00:39:02 - Did you know right away that you’d re-attempt the trail the next year? 00:41:02 - Tell us more about Cristal and fundraising for the Ulman House. 00:46:38 - What led you to working for the Ulman House? 00:49:37 - Have you heard of the program First Descents? 00:50:18 - What was your fundraising goal? 00:53:21 - Having started the trail twice, did you prepare any differently the second time? 00:54:01 - What did it feel like to do horrible climbs twice at the start of the AT? 00:55:12 - What was your experience vlogging on trail? 00:56:40 - What was your editing practice and how long did editing take? 00:58:10 - Did you ever get weird comments? 01:00:31 - How often did you hike alone? 01:03:00 - Tell us your poop story. 01:07:30 - Tell us about aqua blazing. 01:11:55 - What’s another not boring story? 01:14:35 - Tell us about your woodburning side hustle. 01:16:14 - Where can people find your site? 01:17:49 - Did you go to school for art? 01:18:20 - Discussion about stick and poke tattoos. 01:19:40 - Tell us about your upcoming hiking plans. 01:21:10 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Shaming Chaunce Trek Propaganda Thru-Hiking with a Partner? Save Weight (and Money) by Sharing Gear by Kelly Floro Listener Voicemails Triple Crown of thru-hiker no-no’s Mail Bag 5 Star Review Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Matt Soukup, and Jason Snailer. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Peter Bergman.  In a nutshell, Peter is the ultimate wildcard.  His hiking resume, which includes a completed section hike of the PCT and a cross country hike from his front door in Denver to Mt. of the Holy Cross- doesn't even begin to tell his story.  We learn about the life of an art professor, some of most ridiculous projects, which toes the line between art and prank, and his latest release, PaCT, a series of projects related to his two-part section hike of the PCT, the first chunk as a 23-year-old, and the rest at twice the age of 46.  Chaunce and Badger were thoroughly entertained during this one, you will be too. We wrap the show with a special triple crown, Elise edition, some surprise birthday wishes to Chaunce - including a voicemail that had us LMAO'ing, and much more. Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at gossamergear.com.  Organifi: Use code “backpacker” for 20% off at organifi.com/backpacker. Enlightened Equipment: Use code “ultralight10” for 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.  Bedrock Sandals: Head to bedrocksandals.com today! [divider] Interview with Peter Bergman An Address: Institute of Sociometry is PRESS Website is PRESS Instagram PaCT Website  PaCT Report Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:04:38 - QOTD: What is something every junk drawer must have in order to be considered a proper junk drawer? 00:09:03 - BPR Announcements: Denver Hiker Meetup April 5, New Intern 00:13:30 - Introducing Peter 00:13:36 - What’s your elevator pitch? 00:14:53 - Tell us about being a professor. 00:15:54 - What percentage of your students would you say are garbage people? 00:16:58 - What is your favorite course to teach? 00:17:57 - What’s the most memorable art project you’ve seen while teaching? 00:20:20 - What’s your take on the Van Gogh exhibit? 00:20:51 - What’s your take on Meow Wolf? 00:21:51 - What’s your overall experience as an artist? 00:27:18 - Would you say there’s a theme among Cabriolet owners? 00:28:33 - Tell us about the postcards. 00:31:49 - How did you not get shot? 00:33:28 - How do you differentiate between art and entertainment? 00:33:58 - What’s the name of the documentary? 00:34:38 - What was it like during/in the pre-Jackass, Southern California, skate-punk scene? 00:36:20 - What about skateboarding created that culture? 00:38:17 - What’s your take on Jackass? 00:38:57 - Discussion about free library project. 00:43:38 - Are you currently in the midst of any pranks? 00:51:15 - Tell us about the PCT section in 1996. 00:55:10 - Discussion about deciding to finish the trail in 2019. 00:56:06 - Discussion about hike from Denver to Mt. Holy Cross. 00:56:40 - How much of that route was off-trail vs. on roads? 00:56:58 - Discussion about returning to the PCT in 2019. 00:57:17 - How do Peter and Elise know each other? 00:58:25 - How did you end up with two feet of Dylan’s hair around your neck? 00:59:25 - Discussion about the hair collection. 01:02:16 - Discussion about the time capsule. 01:08:10 - Discussion about getting off trail in 1996. 01:12:14 - With your exciting hobbies off-trail, how did you keep yourself entertained on trail? 01:16:06 - As someone who is a professor, how would you assign an on-trail project to hikers as if they were students? 01:19:27 - Walk us through the flipbook, zine, and book. 01:21:25 - Discussion about book printing. 01:24:20 - Discussion about the time between 1996 and 2019. 01:25:09 - How did your dad respond to the book? 01:25:34 - How many books are left? 01:25:53 - Discussion about badgers. 01:28:29 - Tell us about the snowstorm. 01:34:20 - Discussion about completing the trail in 2019. 01:37:12 - What were the primary differences between the two hikes? 01:41:43 - What was your gear like in 1996? 01:43:57 - What’s your poop story? 01:49:22 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda Matthew “Odie” Norman to Retire from Hiker Yearbook Project by Penina Satlow Triple Crown of Elise Chaunce’s Birthday Well-Wishes 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyonthedrums Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Matt Soukup, and Jason Snailer. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Andy Laub.  Andy is a thru-hiker, documentarian, cinematographer, director, editor, visual effects artist...basically all things under the sun dealing with making videos.  His work has been featured on the Discovery Channel, National Geographic, BBC World, Amazon Prime, Hulu & PBS World Channel.  His first trail documentary, As It Happens, has more than a million views on YouTube.  We chat all about his backpacking career, what goes into a professional video production, juggling his adventures while being a parent of two youngsters, and we go deep on his latest project, THRU, a six-part series featuring his 2018 thru-hike of the Pacific Northwest Trail.  Whether you nerd out on video stuff or not, I guarantee you'll enjoy this chat.  It's a fun one.  We wrap the show with a more formal announcement of the winner of the Backpacker Radio Sponsorship, we get a fan submission patent-pending about drinking sunscreen, and do a triple crown of thru-hiking phrases, clichés, and acronyms.  Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at gossamergear.com.  Organifi: Use code “backpacker” for 20% off at organifi.com/backpacker. Enlightened Equipment: Use code “ultralight10” for 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.  Bedrock Sandals: Head to bedrocksandals.com today!  Interview with Andy Laub Watch THRU here @thru_film on Instagram @laub.films on Instagram andylaubfilms.com @pjoart on Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:06:22 - QOTD: Do you Wordle? 00:10:12 - BPR Announcements: Trail Days Road Trip & Meetup Location 00:14:56 - Introducing Andy Laub 00:15:20 - Where’d you get into backpacking?  00:17:42 - What was your AT start date? 00:18:35 - Did you start at the stars? 00:19:41 - When you’re stuck, do you think like a film narrator? 00:20:01 - Were you in front of or behind the camera? 00:20:56 - Discussion of on-camera hand gestures and film angles 00:22:14 - Is there a bubble in February on the AT? 00:23:05 - What research did you do pre-trail? 00:24:30 - Tell us about meeting your first trail friend. 00:25:33 - Tell us about The Dusty Camel. 00:27:02 - Tell us about your time at the Discovery Channel. 00:28:45 - What’s Ian’s background at this point? 00:29:14 - Was the idea for the PCT film first or the idea to hike? 00:29:25 - Tell us about the PCT in 2011. 00:32:10 - What was your film equipment and how heavy was it? 00:32:35 - How do you decide who films what? 00:34:06 - Is it tough to capture both the highs and the lows? 00:36:53 - Is it harder for you to be in front of or behind the camera? 00:38:19 - What doors did As It Happens open for you? 00:39:16 - How did the National Geographic Society project come about? 00:41:05 - How did you go from As It Happens to the production value of THRU? 00:43:22 - What other equipment do you have on trail? 00:44:39 - Discussion about the cinematography and camera gear of THRU.  00:47:48 - What was the secret videography weapon Chaunce brought on the AT? 00:48:28 - What’s the process of making a documentary? 00:51:22 - Are you recording your flashbacks while hiking? 00:52:18 - Are you directing all of the footage on trail? 00:53:40 - Do you decide what you want the scenes to look like while hiking? 00:57:09 - How do you keep everyone on the same page? 01:00:16 - Do you need to have a lot of patience or social awareness? 01:03:07 - How did you put the group together? 01:04:44 - What packs did you use? 01:07:47 - Discussion about the group dynamic. 01:09:40 - Discussion about square tarps and gear weight. 01:10:03 - Is there a way to lighten heavy camera equipment? 01:11:27 - What are your three top tips to take something amateur and make it look high class? 01:14:34 - If you could go back and critique As It Happens, what feedback would you give? 01:16:16 - Are there ever moments you wish you could have captured on camera? 01:19:25 - What is THRU? 01:22:46 - Did you have any crazy grizzly encounters or oh shit moments? 01:27:25 - Do death-defying moments hit differently now that you have kids? 01:31:37 - Who does the graphics in THRU? 01:33:20 - What’s the dumbest thing you did on the hike? 01:34:12 - Discussion about the PNT’s trail types, usage, and season/weather window. 01:37:11 - Did you miss any miles? 01:37:56 - What’s your full trail resume? 01:38:25 - What are some of the films you made between trails? 01:41:56 - How do you maintain your positivity in the face of climate change? 01:43:34 - Discussion about climate change. 01:48:22 - What’s your dream project? 01:51:30 - Were you on the fence about bringing a drone? 01:53:45 - Discussion about the future of the PNT and value of the National Scenic Trails. 01:56:54 - How can people watch THRU? 01:58:43 - Will there be a season 2? 02:01:25 - Lobster facts! 02:04:17 - Discussion about trees. 02:06:00 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda Tell Us Your Story: How Has Thru-Hiking Changed Your Life? Meet the Winner of the 2022 Backpacker Radio Sponsorship! Listener Voicemail Triple Crown of hiking catchphrases/lingo 5 Star Review Trail Days [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyonthedrums Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Matt Soukup, and Jason Snailer. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are running back the Appalachian Trail panel.  This time, your favorite cinnamon connection are working in tandem to share some more of their top, trail-tested advice for hiking the AT.  This includes how to prevent against the biggest threat presented by the Trail, the right resupply strategy (or lack thereof), how to train for the Trail, and much more. We wrap the show with a triple crown of traits you'd want in a hiking partner and we chat about some of our favorite down jacket options.    Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at Gossamergear.com.  Enlightened Equipment: Save 10% off Enlightened Equipment’s Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket with code “ultralight10” here.  Bedrock Sandals: Head to www.bedrocksandals.com today!  AT Panel with Chaunce & Badger Time stamps & Questions 00:03:48 - QOTD: How do you feel about mint chocolate chip ice cream?  00:10:40 - BPR Announcements: WE ARE GOING TO TRAIL DAYS!  00:13:10 - Badger Tip #1: Permethrin your clothes!  00:19:34 - Chaunce Tip #1: Give shelters a shot  00:23:47 - Badger Tip #2: Dry out your gear 00:25:21 - Don’t worry about tidying your pack 00:26:52 - Chaunce Tip #2: Train vertically  00:28:34 - Alternatives to stair stepper machines  00:30:38 - Why running isn’t enough training for the AT  00:31:47 - Badger Tip #3: Don’t pre-plan resupplies on the AT Food planning for the A.T.   00:40:22 - Chaunce Tip #3: Instead of researching sights, research trail towns and history  00:44:29 - Be sure to have a seasoned hiker give you a shake down  00:49:15 - Panel wrap up SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda:  Best down jackets for thru-hiking by Kelly Floro Join The Trek Newsletter (see bottom of webpage)  Triple Crown of traits you want in a hiking partner  Listener Voicemails  5 Star Review  Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and  Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, and Matt Soukup. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by David "AWOL" Miller.  If you know anything about the AT, then that name is likely already familiar to you as AWOL is the author of not one but TWO of the most popular books related to the Trail, including Miller's Memoir, "AWOL on the Appalachian Trail", and "The AT Guide" which AWOL has since sold.  We talk all about Miller's writing process, the incredible amount of work that went into bringing The AT Guide to life, why he decided to sell the guidebook to Anti Gravity Gear, what he's been up to since, and much more We close out the show with a chaotic series of segments, including a triple crown of grocery store aisles followed by listener voicemails which somehow devolves into a conversation about the Mason Dixon line of sperm potency.  But first.      Good To-Go: Use code “bpr25” HEREto save 25% on your next order.  Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at Gossamergear.com.  Bedrock Sandals: Head to www.bedrocksandals.comtoday!  Hike the InternationalAppalachian Trail, Ulster-Ireland: Go to www.iatulsterireland.comto learn more about this beautiful hike!  Interview with David “AWOL” Miller sponsored by Good To-Go  Time stamps & Questions 00:05:32 -QOTD: What’s the worst recent injury you’ve sustained?And… What is your weird pet peeve?  00:10:02 - BPR Announcements: Badger Sponsorship Results, Internship Apps have closed, & Trail Days  00:12:45 - Introducing David “AWOL” Miller  00:13:05 - How much trail press have you done?  00:13:44 - Who were you before you became “AWOL”? 00:15:06 - What was your hiking experience prior to hiking the AT?  00:16:02 - Were you in Florida prior to your AT hike?  00:16:42 - Are there any mountains in Florida?  00:18:00 - What was the official title of your guide?  00:18:27 - Any favorite stories from your journey?  00:19:53 - What was the AT culture like in 2003?  00:21:56 - Did you plan on writing your memoir prior to the hike?  00:23:06 - Did you save the newspaper clippings? 00:23:17 - Did you use your articles in the memoir?  00:24:33 - Do you have a specific writing methodology?  00:25:40 - Was it challenging to open up in your memoir?  00:26:43 - What were your thoughts on “A Walk in the Woods”?  00:28:10 - Is your book the second most popular of AT books?  00:30:48 - What was the writing process like?  00:35:33 - How did the partnership with Amazon work?  00:37:14 - What goes into a good guide book?  00:40:20 - What are the logistical steps to make a guide happen? 00:41:31 - Are you using a digital mapping system? 00:42:20 - How did you approach all the changes that happen to the trail? 00:44:08 - What does it take to get the non-technical information 00:46:56 - What percentage of the year was dedicated to guide research? 00:47:37 - Tell us about selling the guidebook  00:49:28 - How did you see the book evolve?  00:52:48 - Tell us about your other hobbies (golfing, ballroom dancing, etc.)  00:54:09 - Future book topics  00:55:20 - What’s your exercise routine like these days?  00:57:23 - What does the new digital guide look like?  00:59:55 - What’s your take on what the next big thing will be for trail guides?  01:03:05 - What are you focusing on now these days?  01:04:52 - Thank you!  SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda:  ZOLEO Satellite Communicator Reviewby Carl Stanfield Rough Start to Your Thru-Hike? It Could Be Because of Your Diet by Terry “Finder” Rice  Voicemail Segment: Leave us one here!  Triple Crown of grocery store aisles  Mail Bag  Thank you again, Good To-Go! Try Zach's favorite, Mushroom Risotto,and use code "bpr25" at checkout for 25% off. [divider] Check out our sound guy@Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes(and please leave us a review)!  Find us onSpotify,Stitcher, andGoogle Play. Support us on Patreonto get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio FollowThe Trek,Chaunce,Badger, and Trail Correspondentson Instagram. FollowThe TrekandChaunceon YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, and Matt Soukup. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are talking all things Appalachian Trail (drink?).  Everybody's favorite honorary third co-host, Jabba, joins us in a roundtable of tips we would offer someone looking to take on a long distance backpacking trip on the AT (drink).  We touch on budgeting tips, ways to reduce your pack weight, advice for ensuring you complete your goal, insight on how to transition post-trail, and much more.   We round out the show with a triple crown of dance moves, some fast facts from the AT Class of 2021, and a fun announcement about the cinnamon connection's very own visit to the AT this year (drink).    Good To-Go: Use code “bpr25” HERE to save 25% on your next order.  Gossamer Gear: Use code “littledonkeygirl” for 15% off at Gossamergear.com.  Hike the International Appalachian Trail, Ulster-Ireland: Go to www.iatulsterireland.com to learn more about this beautiful hike!  AT Panel with Chaunce, Badger, & Jabba  Time stamps & Questions 00:05:08 - QOTD: What is the correct thermostat temperature for sleeping?  00:11:13 - BPR Announcements: We’ll be at Trail Days!  00:12:23 - Introducing the AT Panel  00:13:28 - Badger’’s Tip #1: For NOBOs, earlier start dates may be favorable but southern Appalachia weather may not agree 00:21:05 - AT hiking experience  00:22:13 - Chaunce’s Tip #1: Avoid the town experiences in the beginning, so you can slow down later on the trail  00:25:04 - Jabba’s Tip #1: Have some type of game-plan for post-trail life  00:31:06 - Badger’’s Tip #2: Mentally prepare yourself for the hike  00:34:15 - Did your “Why?” ever changed on a hike?  00:34:54 - What was your “why” for the PCT in comparison to the AT?  00:44:06 - Chaunce’s Tip #2: Keep a stricter budget  00:44:57 - How do we feel about hiker “Go Fund Me” pages?  00:54:44 - Jabba’s Tip #2: Figure out your footwear  01:02:53 - Badger’’s Tip #3: You don’t need as much water on the AT  01:11:45 - Chaunce’s Tip #3: Strategize your days around the rain, when convenient  01:14:11 - If you’re going to hike the AT, get Verizon!  01:15:25 - Let’s family/friends know when you won’t be having service  01:16:47 - Jabba’s Tip #3: Experience the social bubble & allow yourself to pivot  01:19:20 - Panel wrap-up, thanks Jabba!  SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda:  TLDR: Summarizing the 2021 Appalachian Trail Thru Hiker Survey (Plus Hikers’ Favorite Sections of the Trail) by Joal & Jenny  Triple Crown of dance moves  5 Star Review “Love is Blind” Debrief   [divider] Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and  Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, and Matt Soukup. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.