
Redefiners
Call them changemakers. Call them rule breakers. We call them Redefiners. And in this provocative podcast, we explore how daring leaders from across industries and around the globe are redefining their organizations—and themselves—to create extraordinary impact in today’s rapidly changing world.In each episode, Russell Reynolds Associates Leadership Advisor Hoda Tahoun and former CEO Clarke Murphy host engaging, purposeful conversations with leaders in and out of the business world who share their insights and perspectives on how they lead, boldly. You’ll come away with fresh ideas and tangible takeaways on how you can redefine your own leadership trajectory – no matter where you are on your journey. Our Hosts:Clarke Murphy Clarke Murphy is the former Chief Executive Officer of Russell Reynolds Associates and serves on the Board of Directors. Prior to his appointment as CEO, he was the Global Leader of the firm's CEO/Board Services Practice.While at Russell Reynolds Associates, Clarke has conducted a number of significant projects in the industry, including Fortune 100 board searches and CEO successions. In addition, he has led notable searches in the private equity industry including searches for the Carlyle Group and Warburg Pincus.Hoda TahounAs a leadership advisor and leader of the global Leisure & Hospitality Practice at RRA, Hoda Tahoun identifies, assesses, and develops dynamic C-suite leaders for global hospitality, travel, and leisure companies. Based in Miami, Hoda helps clients solve their most pressing leadership issues at the CEO, C-suite, and other executive-levels. She also advises clients on customer-centric, go-to-market leadership roles such as chief marketing officers and chief experience officers. Hoda is committed to reshaping the hospitality and leisure landscape to ensure it is an industry that leads with purpose, value, and wellbeing and continues to attract and retain talent across all facets of diversity.Hoda spent more than seven years working for a boutique executive search firm, rising to the title of principal where she worked closely with hotel management companies, cruise lines and private equity firms. Previously, Hoda was an assistant vice president at SHUAA Capital in Dubai where she led the firm’s investment banking efforts. She has also worked at American Express, Bank of America and Citi.
Latest episodes

May 11, 2022 • 36min
Carlyle Group CEO: You may not like change, but you're going to like obsolescence even less
Adopt Kewsong Lee’s motto – think bigger, move faster, perform better – and you’ll be primed for success in whatever leadership position you’re in. But how this CEO of private equity firm Carlyle Group puts that motto into motion is what’s made Kew one of the world’s savviest business leaders. In this episode, we’ll talk with him about embracing change, essential traits of successful leaders, and why having an authentic ESG mindset is not just good for the world but also good for business.
Kew’s 30-plus-year career is rife with successes, but his mistakes and failures taught him the most. We’ll talk about it all, as well as the transformation of the private equity industry—and how to be on the forefront of that change. If you like this episode, you might also enjoy these other Redefiner conversations: From Corruption to Transformation: The Rebirth of a Global Conglomerate with Joe Kaeser
How to Lead Like a Legend with Samuel Tsien
Leadership Reimagined: Transformation Tips from Jim Hagemann Snabe
BIO:Kewsong Lee - Chief Executive Officer of Carlyle Kewsong Lee is the Chief Executive Officer of Carlyle and was elected to the Board of Directors effective January 1, 2018. Mr. Lee joined Carlyle in 2013 as Deputy Chief Investment Officer for Corporate Private Equity and in 2016 he assumed the additional role of leading the Global Credit segment.
Prior to joining Carlyle, Mr. Lee was a partner and a member of the Executive Management Group at Warburg Pincus, where he spent 21 years. He is currently the President of Lincoln Center Theater, Chairman of the US Chamber of Commerce China Center Advisory Board, and Vice Chair for the Partnership for New York City. He also is a member of the Business Roundtable, serves on the board of the US China Business Council and FCLT Global, and is a Trustee of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Mr. Lee earned his AB in applied mathematics in economics at Harvard College and his MBA from Harvard Business School.

Apr 27, 2022 • 39min
Power, Politics and Purpose: Leadership Lessons with Former PM of Australia Julia Gillard
There are a lot of parallels between running a country and running a company. Julia Gillard, 27th Prime Minister of Australia, joins us to discuss topics critical to leaders at any level.Such as, how to manage crises and war-game potential ones to be prepared to act quickly when it matters. The power of defeat and how it can help us clarify what we really want. And the urgent need to get more women in leadership positions in both politics and business, which is the topic of Julia’s recent book Women and Leadership: Real Lives, Real Lessons, co-authored with Director of the World Trade Organization Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala. We’ll also talk about the commonalities and differences of serving on boards of for-profits versus non-profits, and what we can do to fast-track positive change in the arenas of infectious diseases, mental health, and climate change. Throughout it all, Julia shares tips we can all use on a leadership reality: dealing with adversity—and learning how to thrive through it. To hear more about closing the gender gap and dealing with adversity, check out these Redefiner episodes:
From Harvard to Hollywood: A Conversation with Debra Martin Chase
Break the Bias: Closing the Gender Wealth Gap with Sallie Krawcheck

Apr 13, 2022 • 33min
From Gillette to Jamba Juice: How to Lead Iconic Brands with Empathy, Purpose & Integrity
Love Jamba Juice? You can thank our guest James D. White who, as the brand’s former chair, president and CEO, helped transform a small smoothie shop into a global lifestyle brand in just three years. With an impressive resume working at some of the world’s most well-known brands—Gillette, Safeway, Coca-Cola, Nestle, and 17 boards including The Honest Company—we talk about how to lead iconic, global brands with a values-based, people-first strategy.
James’ recent book,Anti-Racist Leadership: How to Transform Culture in a Race-Conscious World, which he co-authored with his daughter Krista, focuses on anti-racist leadership and DE&I from both a C-suite and Board perspective as well as a millennial one. It’s an episode about equity, empathy, lifelong learning, and taking action for social change, with valuable takeaways for leaders at all levels.
To hear more about purpose-driven leadership and diversity, equity and inclusion, check out these Redefiners episodes:
From Harvard to Hollywood: A Conversation with Debra Martin Chase
From Corruption to Transformation: The Rebirth of a Global Conglomerate with Joe Kaeser
Leadership Lessons from the Field with Troy Vincent
BIO: James D. White is the former chair, CEO, and president of Jamba Juice; a Board Director, and author of Anti-Racist Leadership: How to Transform Culture in a Race-Conscious World.
James has more than 30-years-experience revitalizing some of the world’s leading brands. In talks, he shares personal insights on how to build strong bridges between the boardroom and the shop floor and why investing in your workforce is key. A passionate champion for diversity, equity, and inclusion, he takes audiences on his journey as a Black executive who “never had one promotion based on potential”— beginning with learning the ins and outs of effective leadership at Coca-Cola before moving into executive roles at Safeway, Gillette, and Nestle-Purina Petcare, and then taking on his most ambitious challenge: refreshing Jamba Juice from smoothie shop into global lifestyle brand in just three years.
James draws from his time spearheading successful turnarounds and growth at top companies to provide real-life examples of how effective leaders overcome challenges, engage their employees, and instill a sense of purpose and belonging in their people to create winning cultures.

Mar 30, 2022 • 36min
Leadership for Good: FinTech Transformation in Asia
Entrepreneur and mentor Aldi Haryopratomo opts for the road less travelled—figuratively but, early in his career, also literally on a motorbike. It’s Aldi’s ability to see opportunity from unique perspectives that allowed him to, among other successes, effect financial inclusion across Southeast Asia.
Aldi joins us to talk about how tuning into the cultural cues of your audience and adapting accordingly is essential. We’ll also discuss the power of mentorship—both the invaluable learnings and the tough love—and how relationships and reputation are just as important as a good resume.
Aldi is the former CEO of GoPay, former CEO and Co-founder of Mapan, and is currently on the Board of Commissioners for eFishery and the Board of Advisors for Halodoc in Indonesia. Nowadays, he’s on sabbatical and engaged in his biggest role yet: fun dad.
If you like this episode, you might also enjoy our conversation with Taha Bawa, Co-Founder and CEO of Goodwall – “Ready or Not, Gen Z is Coming.”

Mar 16, 2022 • 31min
From Harvard to Hollywood: A Conversation with Debra Martin Chase (Re-release)
Debra Martin Chase knows how to make big things happen. A Harvard Law School graduate and lawyer turned famed Hollywood producer, she is a dynamic example of how to adeptly craft a career and lead for change. As one of the industry’s first African-American female producers to have a deal with a major studio, Debra shares in this episode anecdotes and insights on how she became the name behind some of TV and film’s most popular titles, and how she then uses her influence as a board member and mentor to help women and people of color thrive in the industry and beyond. It’s an episode full of lessons on how to evolve with confidence, move forward with purpose and never give up.Show notes:Listen to our most recent episodes highlighting other Redefiners:Break the Bias: Closing the Gender Wealth Gap with Sallie KrawcheckLesley Stahl: 30 Minutes with a 60 Minutes TV Legend

Mar 2, 2022 • 39min
Break the Bias: Closing the Gender Wealth Gap with Sallie Krawcheck
Sallie Krawcheck has boldly redefined companies, entire categories and, several times, her career. Former CEO or CFO of a long list of investment banking heavyweights, Sallie is now the CEO and co-founder of Ellevest, a digital investment platform uniquely created by women for women. In this episode, we’ll talk about Sallie’s determination and work to help close both the gender pay gap and, perhaps more importantly, the gender wealth gap by encouraging women to invest. Because, as Sallie tells us, when women become investors and cultivate their own wealth, they ultimately have greater freedom and flexibility in their careers and lives.We’ll also talk with Sallie about the positive power of career setbacks and how she used her Redefiner moments of two widely publicized corporate dismissals to springboard into wildly successful rebounds. We’ll discuss how Sallie’s early career as a research analyst helped her hone her contrarian conviction, a trait she’s leaned into ever since with remarkable success.

Feb 9, 2022 • 30min
Countdown to the Super Bowl: Leadership Lessons from the Field with Troy Vincent (Re-release)
The business world is rife with sports analogies. After all, there are remarkable similarities between what happens in athletics and in the boardroom. Troy Vincent is the embodiment of this parallel.
As a 15-year veteran of the National Football League, he took the leadership skills he learned as a player—communication, presence, resiliency, game planning—and applies them in his current position, Executive Vice President of Football Operations of the NFL. Different sides of the sidelines, same desired outcome: success.
In this episode, Troy talks about how he became a respected, impactful, integrity-driven leader—critical insights for anyone in a leadership role—and why sustainable leadership and Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DE&I) efforts are necessary in order to make organizations stronger. It’s a game plan you’ll definitely want to study.

Jan 26, 2022 • 39min
Lesley Stahl: 30 Minutes with a 60 Minutes TV Legend
We’re stepping out of the boardroom and into the newsroom with our guest, broadcast journalist legend Lesley Stahl. Now in her 30th year on 60 Minutes, Lesley is renowned for her courage, intelligence, and interviewing prowess. She’ll share her two Redefiner moments—covering Watergate and surviving Covid—that significantly shaped her career, her life, and her priorities.
In this episode, we’ll also talk with Lesley on broadcast news topics that have surprising parallels to business topics: how to prepare for and deal with tough conversations, and how Diversity, Equity & Inclusion efforts make both news and business organizations infinitely better.
We’ll also talk about how technology is changing the way we get our news—not necessarily for the better—and how trust and truth in news are more essential and harder to come by than ever.

Dec 22, 2021 • 2min
A Season of Gratitude: A Look Back at Redefiners 2021
As 2021 comes to an end and we begin to look forward to 2022, we want to take a step back for a moment of gratitude and reflection. Join Nanaz Mohtashami for a quick retrospective on 2021, along with her key takeaways from a few of the incredible guests who joined us on Redefiners.
She’ll also share some of the guests we have lined up for 2022 who are redefining what it means to be a leader. Redefiners will return with more incredible guests and conversations in January. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss a single episode!

Dec 15, 2021 • 34min
From Corruption to Transformation: The Rebirth of a Global Conglomerate
What do you do when you’re the CEO of one of the world’s most iconic companies? If you’re Joe Kaeser, you do things differently. In this episode, we’ll talk with the former CEO of Siemens AG and current chairman of the supervisory board of Siemens Energy about how he transformed the company—and how he thinks today’s business leaders must be more purpose-driven in their approach to societal and climate change.
But let’s back up. Three months into Joe’s role as CEO at Siemens AG, Joe found out the company was embroiled in a massive corruption scandal. The fallout informed how he handled crisis, change, and the future, and it’s part of what led him to make a colossal and, at the time, unpopular decision: to break Siemens AG up into three separate businesses. It was one of the most complicated, most massive business transformations of all time—and it paid off. This is an episode about the courage to change, the power of intuition, and leaders’ responsibility on matters that extend way past business.