
Church and Main
Church and Main is a podcast at the intersection of faith and modern life. Join Pastor Dennis Sanders as he shares the stories of faith interacting with the ever-changing world of the 21st century.
Latest episodes

Oct 31, 2024 • 51min
Does Election Day Communion Still Matter? with Andrew Camp | Episode 207
Election Day Communion was an effort started by two Mennonite pastors and an Episcopal layperson in 2012. to try to bring people together on Election Day. The hope was after people voted, they would come and gather at the communion table. Subsequent events took place in 2016 and 2020. But the Facebook Page for Election Day Communion was not updated for 2024. After January 6 and the rise of Christian Nationalism, is there still a place for this event?
Andrew Camp, says yes and joins me to say why. Camp is both a former pastor and a former sous chef interested in the connection between food and faith and you can see those in connections in action on his podcast The Biggest Table.
Suggested Reading and Listening:
The Biggest Table Podcast
Election Day Communion Resources
Related Episodes:
A Journey of Faith and Food with Andrew Camp | Episode 183
Election Year Christianity with Doug Skinner | Episode 201
Beyond the Purple Church with Jack Haberer | Episode 194
The Cross and the Ballot with Joshua Gritter | Episode 182
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Oct 24, 2024 • 41min
Foodtruck Ministry with Kari Olsen | Episode 206
Shobi’s Table is a foodtruck that is also a ministry. It is a pay-as-you-can food truck that creates and serves from-scratch, delicious, nutritious meals rescued food from Twin Cities Food Justice to make meals such as burritos, wraps, sandwiches, salads, hot dishes like baked pastas, fried rice, and more. I’m talking with Deacon Kari Olsen, the Mission Developer and Head Chef of Shobi’s Table. We talk about this unique ministry, Kari’s call to ministry, and the connection between the communion table and our kitchen tables.
Suggested Reading and Listening:
Shobi’s Table website
One World, Everybody Eats
Related Episodes:
A Journey of Faith and Food with Andrew Camp | Episode 183
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Oct 16, 2024 • 51min
Pastors and the Great Man Theory with Julian DeShazier | Episode 205
In this episode, Dennis chats with Julian DeShazier about how the great man theory has poisoned the church and a better way for pastors and congregations to do ministry that is more in line with what our faith teaches. Julian is the Senior Minister at University Christian Church in Chicago, writes for the Christian Century and is an Emmy-winning hip hop artist who performs under the name J Kwest.
Suggested Reading and Listening:
The great man theory is poison for the church by Julian DeShazier
Julian's website
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Oct 9, 2024 • 52min
Faithful Christian Engagement in Politics with Miranda Zapor Cruz | Episode 204
In this episode, I speak with Miranda Zapor-Cruz, author of "Faithful Politics," about the role of Christians in the political landscape as the 2024 presidential election approaches. We discuss the challenges of engaging with politics while maintaining spiritual integrity.
Miranda Zapor Cruz is a professor of historical theology at Indiana Wesleyan University. She holds a PhD in religion, politics, and society from Baylor University's J. M. Dawson Institute of Church-State Studies and an MDiv from Princeton Theological Seminary.
Suggested Reading and Listening:
4 Characteristics of Citizens of the Kingdom of God Who Inhabit the Political World by Miranda Zapor Cruz
Christians and Public Policy: Be Engaged, Informed, and Conflicted by Miranda Zapor Cruz
Faithful Politics: Ten Approaches to Christian Citizenship and Why It Matters
Miranda’s website
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Oct 2, 2024 • 46min
What Does It Mean to Be Progressive and Inclusive? with Sam Wells | Episode 203
In this episode, I engage with Reverend Dr. Sam Wells, vicar of St. Martin-in-the-Fields in London, on the intricate meanings of 'progressive' and 'inclusive' in Christianity. Wells challenges the simplistic view of progress as a linear moral improvement, arguing it can perpetuate a patronizing mindset. He links these discussions to the theology of atonement, emphasizing the balance between grace and justice, particularly in contexts like LGBTQ inclusion. Highlighting the complexities of building inclusive church communities, Wells calls for genuine relationships rooted in respect and understanding.
Suggested Reading and Listening:
St. Martin in the Fields website
What Does It Mean to Be An Inclusive Church? By Sam Wells
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Sep 25, 2024 • 17min
SHORTS: What Will You Preach the Sunday After the Election? with Joshua Gritter | Episode 202
In this Church and Main Shorts, we look at a clip from a May interview with Joshua Gritter, a Presbyterian Pastor in North Carolina. We talk about what he and his wife will preach on at the church they serve on the Sunday after the election (hint: it won't be about the election).
Suggested Reading and Listening:
The Full Episode with Joshua Gritter
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Sep 23, 2024 • 1h 8min
Election Year Christianity with Doug Skinner | Episode 201
In this episode of Church and Main, I speak with retired Disciples of Christ pastor Doug Skinner about Christian behavior during election years. (It isn't good.) We discuss the divisive rhetoric often found in the church and emphasize the need for kindness and grace despite political disagreements.
Suggested Reading and Listening:
Episode 139: Why I Am Disciples of Christ with Doug Skinner
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Sep 17, 2024 • 47min
A Theology of Digital Ministry with Jim Keat | Episode 200
In this milestone 200th episode of Church in Maine, I chat with Jim Keat, digital minister at Riverside Church, about the theological foundations of digital ministry. We explore how technology enables authentic connections and engagement within congregations, especially during the shifts driven by the COVID-19 pandemic. Jim highlights the importance of a theology rooted in love, grace, and justice, advocating for a reconceptualization of church as a portable community. Our discussion challenges traditional views and emphasizes the role of digital ministers in fostering meaningful relationships and navigating the complexities of online ministry.
Show Notes:
Jim’s Substack
Jim’s YouTube Page
Jim’s Page on Riverside Church’s website
Jim Keat’s prior episode on Church and Main
Ryan Dunn’s episode
Ryan Panzer’s episode
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Sep 9, 2024 • 57min
Navigating Digital Ministry with Ryan Dunn | Episode 199
The importance of digital ministry was made clear during COVID when churches had to go all digital. But now that we are all back in the pews, is there still a need for digital ministry? If so, what does it look like beyond livestreaming Sunday worship? I talk with Ryan Dunn, a minister for online engagement with the United Methodist Church on how digital ministry can help churches foster strong, connected communities.
Show Notes:
Pastoring in the Digital Parish Podcast
MyCom Podcast
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Sep 8, 2024 • 29min
SOLO: Thoughts? No. Prayers? Yes. | Episode 198
In the wake of a recent school shooting in Georgia, Dennis looks at the role of prayer and why Mainline/Progressive Christians should take the act of calling out to God more seriously.
Show Notes:
“Our expressed opinion is an essential pole of the process of God’s decision-making” by Jason Micheli
No Thing- by Chris Owen
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