
Arrested DevOps
Arrested DevOps is the podcast that helps you achieve understanding, develop good practices, and operate your team and organization for maximum DevOps awesomeness.
Latest episodes

Apr 30, 2020 • 40min
Helm Community With Matt Farina, Karen Chu, and Matt Butcher
Helm.sh
Celebrating Helm’s CNCF Graduation
CNCF announces Helm graduation
An Introduction to Helm - Matt Farina & Josh Dolitsky
Phippy and Friends
Keynote: Phippy Goes to the Zoo: A Kubernetes Story - Matt Butcher & Karen Chu - KubeCon North America 2018
Seven Hard Truths About Open Source Community
Helm chart testing
Helm hub
Helm twitter
Helm logo art credit: @flynnduism
Banner image: @bridgetkromhout

Apr 23, 2020 • 54min
What's the Deal With AWS Billing...? With Corey Quinn and Pete Cheslock
Jessica and Matt spend a little time with Corey Quinn and Pete Cheslock of the Duckbill Group to dig into the mysteries of AWS billing, why product names are all terrible, and what exactly is a "cloud economist" anyway?

Apr 14, 2020 • 43min
WebAssembly, Krustlet, and the Future
WebAssembly
WASI
Bytecode Alliance
Krustlet
Kubernetes Rust Kubelet on GitHub
Introducing Krustlet, the WebAssembly Kubelet by Matt Fisher
Kubernetes and waSCC by Brian Ketelsen
waSCC capability that will make your ops folks cry - GitHub link to evil project (don’t install this)
Kubernetes: A Rusty Friendship - Taylor Thomas
WebAssembly meets Kubernetes with Krustlet by Ralph Squillace

Apr 9, 2020 • 56min
Secure by Design
Secure By Design
Guests Dan Bergh Johnsson, Daniel Deogun, and Daniel Sawano join host Jessica Kerr to discuss their book Secure by Design.
Daniel: “There’s a lot of good designs which come naturally to us as programmers but which has the interesting side effect that they also prevent security-related bugs.”
Domain Primitives
The panel discusses domain primitives as an example of coding practices that naturally provide security through good design.
Dan Bergh: “It’s a good starting point to understand that using domain-driven design not only makes your code more expressive, solves more domain problems. Even though these designs were not crafted to address security to start with, they’ve also had that as a side effect.”
Jessica: “I love that what you’re recommending in this part is to think harder about what you do want in the system, express that in the code, and suddenly a bunch of things that you don’t want in the system just aren’t.”
Testing
The panel talks about the ways in which testing contributes to secure design.
Daniel Sawano: “It tends to be so much easier and more robust if you start defining your own domain types.”
Immutability
The panel discusses the benefits of immutability.
Dan Berg: “It’s possible to…configure and mutate them until they are kind of safe-ish.”
Jessica: “Kind of safe-ish?”
Dan Berg: “Well, we are on a DevOps podcast.”
Logging
The panel talks about the security implications of logging practices.
Daniel Deogan: “One thing that’s very important is that if you log input directly into your logs, it becomes an attack surface for second-order injection attacks.”
Dan Bergh: “It’s a perfect launchpad for doing a really, really hard attack inside your system.”
Daniel Deogan: “The common mistake that many developers do is that they more or less dump inputs blindly.”
Jessica: “We have this illusion that logging is simple, but it isn’t.”
Cloud Thinking
The panel discusses the chapter on cloud thinking.
Dan Bergh: “In a way, we’re instructing the system to become more intelligent.”
Symmathesy!
The book is available online in its entirety.

Mar 25, 2020 • 38min
Whose Transformation Is It Anyway? With Andrew Clay Shafer
Pareto Inefficient Nash Equilibrium
Systems Thinking
Double-loop Learning

Mar 18, 2020 • 48min
Making DevOps Beginner-Friendly With Laura Santamaria
Check out A Minute on the Mic for bite-sized videos from experts on various topics!
Laura
Spring Live - March 19
Matt
Failover Conf - April 21

Feb 17, 2020 • 54min
We Are Always Learning With Patrick Debois
Referenced in the show
Patrick discussed his love for continuous learning and referenced some of his favorite books.
The Ironies of Automation is a paper discussing how automation can expand problems rather than eliminate them.
Promise Theory is an approach to coordinating actors and agents in a system about their intentions to each other in the form of promises. The model was originally proposed by Mark Burgess
NoEstimates: How to Measure Project Progress Without Estimating is a 2016 book that explains the “No Estimates” Agile concept.
A trip down memory lane with the very first DevOps Days Ghent back in 2009.
Where you can find us
Patrick
KubeCon in London
DevOps Talks Melbourne
DevSecCon Sydney
O’Reilly Infrastructure Conference
Matt
DevOpsDays NYC March 3rd - 4th
SRECon Americas West March 24th - 26th
Jeff
Panda Express usually on Thursdays
Open CFPs
The CFP for devopsdays chicago will be open at the time of this publishing, so go to devopsdays.org/chicago to check it out!

Feb 11, 2020 • 53min
Team Topologies
Historical Context
The panel discusses the origins of the book Team Topologies. The project started with a blog post.
Matthew: “Back in 2013, I actually wrote a blog post in my personal blog. I actually wrote it in a rage.”
In 2015, Manuel joined the team to help expand on the ideas from that blog post and create Devops Toplogies.
Manuel: “What the hell are you calling a DevOps team? DevOps is not about creating a new team called DevOps.”
DevOps Topologies
The panel discusses the impact of DevOps Topologies and some of the companies that have used it, including Netflix and Conde Nast.
Matthew and Manuel explain how the project has evolved over time as DevOps Topologies was being deployed in the real world.
Matthew: “It’s not just a set of patterns or templates. We wanted to provide an organizational capability for detecting when things have changed and have gone wrong.”
The panel discusses Conway’s Law and its implications for DevOps.
Manuel: “Teams are the means of delivering value.”
Flow!
The panel discusses the importance of flow in both living systems and organizations.
Manuel: “It’s a more experiment driven approach where we have this goal or this need we need to meet and then allowing the teams to find the right solution.”
Jessica: “In modern systems, the flow is of changes to the flow of the product. It’s a very different level of work.”
The panel discusses the need for different team configurations that are constantly evolving.
Matthew: “It seems quite important to understand different kinds of dynamics in the organization at different times.”
Three Team Interaction Modes
The panel discusses the three team interaction modes laid out in the book: collaboration, as-a-service, and facilitation.
Four Team Topologies
The panel discusses the four team topologies in the book: value stream aligned teams, enabling teams, platform teams, and complicated subsystem teams.
Jessica: “The limitation of a team is cognitive load. It’s not resources, it’s not pizza.”
Manuel: “Although pizza is very appealing.”
Manuel discusses Dunbar’s Number and how that concept can put useful constraints on teams.
Buy the book!
Episode images by Jessica Kerr. Show notes by Tyler Wilson.

Jan 17, 2020 • 53min
Communities Are Made of People With Jono Bacon
In this podcast, Jono Bacon, an expert in communities, discusses the power of building relationships within communities, the different types and categorization of communities, the significance of champions and advocates, and his book 'People Powered'.

Dec 23, 2019 • 52min
2019 Year-End Wrap-Up
Favorite Episodes
Matty
State of Devops 2019 with Dr. Nicole Forsgren and Jez Humble
Certification Fun with Jay Gordon
Bridget
Too many to name! Three recent ones in a row about k8s - the Kubernetes Best Practices book, Ian Coldwater, and Kelsey Hightower today.
Trevor
Catching Up With Steven Murawski
Devopsdays Chicago 2019
Jessica
The Meltwater Transformation
What happened in 2019?
Bridget
Switched from devrel to product. Helped with Helm 3 launch!!! Traveled less. Dragged Joe to a personal trainer because if he’s going maybe I will too.
Matty
Lots of speaking (spoke at 24 conferences in 2019). Moved back to Chicago. Went to lots of devopsdays. Got even more interested in resilience engineering and realized I don’t know shit.
Trevor
More travel! A lot of customer work, focus on delivering solutions, now moving officially into product. I also got really into shuffleboard and DND
Jessica
Consulting!