

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Jul 20, 2021 • 4min
Unicorn Alert! SmartRecruiters Raises $110M
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Jul 19, 2021 • 34min
Calling Bullshit w/ Jess Von Bank
Are you an imposter?
A fraud?
Is that feeling self-imposed?
Is anything in the workplace really self-imposed?
Is the term "Karen" just a mechanism to manipulate?
Wow, that got weird and deep fast, right?Imposter syndrome is loosely defined as doubting your abilities and feeling like a fraud. It disproportionately affects high-achieving people, who find it difficult to accept their accomplishments. Many times, women in the corporate world are impacted the most.All reasons to bring on Jess Von Bank to discuss this important issue and how we might be able to remedy this systemic problem that's unequally plagued the workplace for decades.This smack of reality is supported by our friends at Nexxt. Here's some reality, people respond to texts and yet you're still emailing. Call Nexxt and ask them about how you can increase response rates and candidate engagement with text.
Jul 16, 2021 • 52min
Google, Tiktok, LinkedIn & more?
Remember your favorite double album (for those old enough)? That’s what this episode is like.The boys drop news and discuss BIG TOPICS like
Google for Jobs gets serious
LinkedIn needs to pick a lane
then move onto M&A news from Circa, Hireology, and Yello.
...and well, TikTok (again),
Actually, there’s so much good stuff in this show, I can’t even remember everything. Just get comfy and turn it up, man compliments of Sovren, JobAdX, and Jobvite!
Jul 15, 2021 • 4min
DOUBLE ACQUISITION
It's The Shred a mini Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News -- This is Chad SowashThe Shred is brought to you by Recruitology -- Recruitology brings artificial intelligence - that's AI kids - to job posting and distribution for employers large and small. Start posting your jobs using Recruitology today at recruitology.com/employersOn to the NEWS:Two acquisitionsACQUISITION #1: Circa aka CicaWorks.com acquires LatPro aka DiversityJobs.com ACQUISITION #2 : Hireology acquires EmployUs
Jul 14, 2021 • 5min
Google for Jobs UPDATE
It's The Shred a mini Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News -- This is Chad SowashThe Shred is brought to you by Recruitology -- Recruitology brings artificial intelligence - that's AI kids - to job posting and distribution for employers large and small. Start posting your jobs using Recruitology today at recruitology.com/employersOn to the NEWS:Google announces BIG jobs update! #LISTEN
Jul 14, 2021 • 5min
MERGER!
The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology -- Recruitology brings artificial intelligence - that's AI kids - to job posting and distribution for employers large and small. Start posting your jobs using Recruitology today at recruitology.com/employersOn to the NEWS:Yello merges with WayUp!

Jul 13, 2021 • 4min
For Sale: 600M LinkedIn Profiles on Hacker Forum
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Jul 13, 2021 • 25min
Employer Brand Euro Remix
The pandemic has royally remixed employment branding for a lot of companies. What used to be a nice-to-have is now a must-have, no matter where you are in the world. That's why we brought in Kim Werensteijn, Employer Brand extraordinaire from the Netherlands. It's a must-listen for furloughed, future, and currently practicing Employer Brand pros.This podcast is brought to you by the power of Sovren parsing and matching. AI so human, you'll want to take it to dinner.
Jul 9, 2021 • 48min
Indeed Mimics Monster
Who goes camping in the hot sticky mess of July? Joel Cheesman, that's who.No worries, we have a smooth operator filing in for the Master of Cheese this week. Crazy and The King Podcast co-host, Executive Director of Disability Solutions, all-around badass, and my wife Julie Sowash joins as we tackle questions like:
Is Indeed the following Monster off a cliff?
Is Doximity showing Dice how to evolve?
Will the pandemic really drive any real change?
Is Allyn Bailey right about "The Great Awakening"?
Who is happy robots are taking the shitty jobs?
and does weed make you faster?
It's the craziest market we will ever experience - so stop, listen, and participate :)Don't forget to visit our friends over at Sovren, Jobvite, and JobAdX. They are the wind beneath our... well... you get the idea.
Jul 7, 2021 • 32min
Firing Squad: PredictiveHire's Barb Hyman
A new chatbot... Errrrrr.... "conversational AI: contender is coming to America and the rest of the world soon. They're called Predictive Hire and they have an army of PhDs that says their tech is better than yours.CEO Barb Hyman can explain and has no problem staring down the barrel of our Firing Squad rapid-fire questions. Does Predictive Hire come out unscathed? Are run into the guns? Ya gotta listen to find out :)Firing Squad is powered by Pandologic's programmatic revolution!


