

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Aug 9, 2021 • 4min
Clearlake Capital to Take Cornerstone OnDemand Private for $3.8B
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Aug 9, 2021 • 31min
Hiring Women Execs w/ Venesa Klein
Swapping spit. That's how Venesa Klein describes the never-ending shuffling going on in the C-suite these days, swapping one female executive with another one. And around we go, failing to give fresher talent the chance to shine. In this show, the boys peel the onion and let Venessa of Calibre One cook up some tasty education on the problems of solutions of equality in the workplace. Ol' Boys Club beware.Supported by Sovren, AI so human you'll want to take it to dinner.

Aug 6, 2021 • 44min
Indeed Sucks
Indeed Sucks ... and SwallowsThis week, you get not one but two Indeed dipsy-doo, switcheroos.
First, they're moving away from the PPC model that helped make them a multi-billion dollar business.
Second, they don't really like how employers are engaging with candidates on their event product, so they just shut 'em down from pre-show communications.
Beyond Indeed, the boys are talkin'
a new unicorn CultureAmp,
LinkedIn limits,
a lipstick-on-a-pig acquisition,
Target telling Walmart to stick it, and, oh yeah, Buy-or-Sell where one of our fearless cohosts goes three Sell ratings in a row.
Enjoy this Sovren, Jobvite & JobAdx powered episode.

Aug 4, 2021 • 4min
Instawork 'Drafts'-Up New Acquisition
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Aug 4, 2021 • 38min
The End of Jobs w/ Jeff Wald
Like Harvard MBAs and Ivy League pedigrees? How about best-selling books written by industry entrepreneurs?Well, you're in luck, as Jeff Wald, author of The End of Jobs, comes on the podcast and chats the history of his company WorkMarket (sold to ADP), whether or not the iPhone could've been built by a remote team and whether or not college is bologna for high school grads. And that's just the first 10 mins. Buckle up for this no-holds interview powered by our friends at NEXXT!
Jul 30, 2021 • 45min
LinkedIn Crushes Monster
Remember when you thought Microsoft had lost their collective mind when they dropped $26.2 billion for LinkedIn? HA!Well, it looks like Microsoft is going to have the last laugh because LinkedIn is crushing it. And who’s not crushing it? How about Monster and Job.com? Shocker, right? Of course, there’s more WFH and COVID insanity that the boys cover. How about some MadMen, 2021-style? Got that too. Oh, and Walmart does some good (suck it, Amazon!)
Jul 28, 2021 • 49min
EUROPE: M&A Royalty
Investment dollars are flowing into workforce tech globally, and Europe is no stranger to big deals. You're going to need a bigger boat though, because we have a giant shark on the show to dig into M&A strategy in the space. How big? How about $400 for starters. House of HR CEO Rika Coppens joins the boys to talk acquisition strategy, as well as dig into some numbers behind programmatic solutions and Google for Jobs.
Jul 27, 2021 • 20min
Conversational AI Report
Don't call it a chatbot, they've been here for years... Seriously, call 'em chatbots, conversational AI, or fancy experience and productivity tools. It really doesn't matter if you don't understand the role of the tech and the solution to your everyday problems. ENTER the 2021 Conversational AI Report by friend of the show Madeline Laurano and Aptitude Research. During this podcast, we dig into some major points and tease others. We ask:
Isn't this tech already part of our everyday routine?
Can conversation AI be more than a point solution?
Is conversational AI more than a high-volume play?
Can the ATS and CRM platforms even compete?
Again, Madeline has pulled together amazing intel that every Talent Acquisition, Recruiting, and Human Resources professional should download, digest, and share with their teams. Enjoy the overview, brought to you by those wonderful kids over at Sovren.com. Sovren, was into parsing and AI matching before it was cool. Sovren, AI so human you'd like to take it to dinner.
Jul 23, 2021 • 46min
It's a Pando Smart Recruiters Cash Geyser
If you thought last week's show was a blockbuster, wait until you get a load of this week's episode. Here's a taste:
CareerBuilder has a new CEO,
PandoLogic has been acquired
and SmartRecruiters is a unicorn.
Want more? How about a battle between Kroger and Walmart for who's the bigger douchebag? Still not enough? How about porn stars at conservative Christian conferences for teens. Yep, you're welcome. Thank your friends at Sovren, Jobvite, and JobAdX.
Jul 21, 2021 • 52min
Boundless in Europe
Lieven has given up on Futbol everybody. Nevertheless, grab your Italian football jersey and enjoy a Guinness, 'cause this Euro show has your name written all over it.The boys welcome Boundless founder Dee Coakley, a Dubliner, to the show to talk about her company's recent round of funding, as well as chime in on all of this week's topics.In addition:
Hungary is starving for immigrant workers,
Iceland is changing the game when it comes to workforce well-being, testing a 4-day work week, but what does that mean for the rest of Europe (and the world)?
Lastly, France is putting a chokehold on Google and Big Tech's inability to play nicely with the country's media properties. Is it a tax Google just pays, or will they really help save journalism? And what European companies pile on next? Gotta listen.
Grab a couple of Guinness, this is gonna take a minute :)


