

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Dec 1, 2021 • 4min
Jobandtalent Picks Up $575M
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Dec 1, 2021 • 34min
Firing Squad: Turazo's Pete Cipollone
Video remains one of the hottest technologies around when it comes to recruiting, and one company, Turazo, approaches it in a whole new way, bringing brand ambassadors and "culture-carrying employees" into the mix. Sound complicated? It kinda is. See if founder and CEO Pete Cipollone can survive the Firing Squad.

Nov 26, 2021 • 35min
Thankful Turkeys
It ain’t cool being a jive turkey so close to Thanksgiving, but it's definitely cool listening to the Thanksgiving Day episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast. Again this year, the boys are talkin’ turkey with the queen of chatbots, the one, the only, Quincy Valencia from Hourly. The crew goes through six 'Thankfuls' and three 'Turkeys'. Yummy! Pass the green bean casserole and turn it up to 11.

Nov 22, 2021 • 20min
High Volume Hiring Report w/ Madeline Laurano
What exactly is High Volume Hiring? Is high volume different than a gig? Do I need a different system or will my ATS adapt?Why are applicants dropping out at such a high rate? ... and much much more... Cheese takes a nap and Madeline Laurano, Founder of Aptitude Research steps up to the mic to talk about her newest High Volume Hiring research. Quit rates are at an all-time high, 4.4m quit last month alone, and nearly a third of women have left or are contemplating leaving the workforce - reported by McKinsey. Let's face it the workforce, almost in its entirety, is just exhausted.What's Talent Acquisition supposed to do? Listen...

Nov 19, 2021 • 47min
Indeed? Where we're going, we don't need Indeed.
Tiger King is back on Netflix, which makes the fact there's even an episode this week pretty amazing, but as much as we're junkies for Joe Exotic, we're more committed to opening HR's lizard brain on a weekly basis.So, here we go: This week, the boys cover news out of Indeed and Glassdoor, as well as funding rounds for Rippling and Workato.Then it's on to The Great Resignation, covering news and commentary around Amazon fines, trucker shortage myths, a-hole CEOs and working for multiple employers, compliments of WFH. We even throw in a Britney reference, 'cause she's free now and all that. Enjoy.

Nov 18, 2021 • 4min
Fastest Growing HR Tech Company in N. America Revealed
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Nov 17, 2021 • 31min
It's Mr. ATS
The world knows Mr. Rogers. Mr. T. And even Mr. Mister if you're of a certain age. But Mr. ATS? Yes, industry veteran Peter Gold has taken up a moniker that a certain podcast cohost dubbed "Mr. VHS" because it seemed so outdated. Well, Gold is on the podcast after that remark and after writing a recent article titled, "Let Them Eat AI," where he decries the trend of artificial intelligence making its way into recruitment technology. If you're on the team that thinks AI is a bunch of malarkey, love a good chat about the past, present, and future of the ATS, and adore a British accent, then this episode is for you.

Nov 12, 2021 • 44min
cube 19 Feels Horny
Have you hugged a veteran today? As we record on Veterans Day, Drill Sergeant Sowash breaks down ways to go beyond "Thank you for your service" and personally honoring vets you know.Reality check over ... On this week's show, the boys dig into:
Bullhorn's wallet share acquisition with cube19
HUGE funding round of Fountain
Buy or sell? w/ Mogul, Seasoned, and Hirewell
Walmart shows us that truck driving may not be a long-term career choice
The show ends on a high note - pun intended - with the GOP apparently leading the charge on the legalization of marijuana.
Profits over politics, kids! Just so No was so '80s anyway. Like, gag me with a spoon.

Nov 10, 2021 • 33min
Rare Breed w/ Sunny Bonnell
Every company is looking to discover rare breeds, whether they be in the company already, or roaming the pastures of commerce externally. But the HOW tends to be elusive. That's why Chad & Cheese brings Rare Breed author Sunny Bonnell on the podcast to dive into what companies can do post-pandemic to retain and attract the kind of talent that can take an organization to new heights.

Nov 9, 2021 • 4min
Walmart is Really Pushing Adoption of Self-Driving Delivery Trucks
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.


