The Chad & Cheese Podcast

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Steve Bartel, CEO of Gem, and Alla Mezhvinsky, VP at Glean, share insights from UNLEASH America. They discuss the chaotic impact of AI in recruiting, tackling issues like resume spam and deepfake candidates. The duo emphasizes the necessity for transparency in hiring and rethinking traditional job descriptions. With limited budgets, they highlight the importance of integrating tech stacks wisely. Steve shares a quirky story about acquiring the Gem.com domain, while they both advocate for data-driven decisions free from the hype, aiming to reshape the candidate experience.

In this episode, Chad and Cheese return from RecFest with sunburns, stories, and just enough energy to unpack a week full of WTFs. They kick things off with a heartfelt tribute to their late friend Matt Lavery, proof that even these two have a soft side under the sarcasm. But don’t get too comfortable, there’s plenty of industry drama to dig into. Job.com filed for bankruptcy (shocking no one), Indeed is back on its layoff tour, and Paradox is dealing with a data breach. Chris Foreman resurfaces at TotalJobs, and the big question looming over the industry: Will JobGet get the Monster (and the Builder too)? Stay tuned. Takeaways: Matt Lavery was a cherished friend and mentor. The podcast community has lost a valuable member. Job.com’s bankruptcy raises concerns for the industry. Indeed's layoffs reflect ongoing challenges in the job market. Data breaches are a serious issue for tech companies. Chris Foreman's move to TotalJobs is surprising given his previous plans. JobGet's acquisition of Monster signifies a drastic change in the job board landscape. The importance of valuing relationships and time with loved ones.

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

In this episode, the boys roll out the red carpet for Ankit Kalda, a finance brainiac from Indiana University’s Kelley School of Business. They dive into the gig economy’s role as a financial lifeboat for laid-off workers, tossing around ideas like Uber drivers dodging debt faster than a bad Tinder date. The crew chews over how gig work reshapes the workforce, with HR folks scrambling to keep up like over-caffeinated squirrels. They also poke at the headaches gig platforms face—think regulatory red tape and automation like Tesla’s robotaxis stealing the wheel. Plus, they riff on Uncle Sam’s snooping into gig earnings, what Gen Z expects from this hustle-heavy world, and whether the gig economy’s future is a shiny utopia or a dystopian dumpster fire. It’s a wild ride through jobs, bots, and government plots! Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to the Gig Economy and Its Implications 02:22 - Understanding the Gig Economy as a Buffer 05:04 - The Impact of Gig Work on the Workforce 09:29 - Government Tracking of Gig Work 12:21 - Challenges Faced by Gig Platforms 14:40 - Temporary Solutions vs. Long-Term Viability 17:22 - Expectations of the Next Generation 20:44 - The Role of Regulation in Gig Work 25:11 - Healthcare and Long-Term Costs 28:49 - Future Outlook on the Gig Economy

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast: 💀 Job.com hits Chapter 11 – because apparently lighting $50-100 million on fire isn't a sustainable business strategy. Who knew? 🔁 Who's buying Job.com? Apparently Job.com! 🧠 CTO is owed $300K 🧃 Business model of doom. Imagine Fyre Festival for jobs 🔮 PE firms, VC money, zero logic – If you ever wanted a masterclass in financial acrobatics and corporate vanishing acts, this episode is your front row seat. It’s The Chad & Cheese Podcast – where bankruptcies come with a twist and a smirk.

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash roll out the welcome mat for Marc Effron, the big cheese at Talent Strategy Group and coauthor of One Page Talent Management. The trio dives headfirst into the wild jungle of talent management, where CEOs and HR are apparently playing a bad game of telephone. Marc dishes on why HR processes need a simplicity makeover—like swapping War and Peace-length forms for a Post-it note. He spills the tea on why companies fumble employee development, the dire need to throw some cash at talent, and how generational quirks make managing folks feel like herding cats. Plus, they riff on HR’s quest to actually get what the business wants and adapt to the workplace’s new normal, all while dodging corporate chaos. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Talent Management and Complexity 01:17 - The Value of Talent and CEO Perspectives 04:18 - The Purpose Behind Writing the Book 04:36 - The Complexity of HR and Its Implications 05:13 - Understanding the Business and Customer Needs 06:37 - Investment in Employee Development 08:56 - Adapting to New Realities in the Workplace 09:24 - Generational Differences in Talent Management

In this episode, the gang kicks off with Canada Day banter, praising poutine and noting its July 1 celebration. The trio plans to rock RecFest UK in Knebworth, with J.T. plotting to heckle the boys. The core discussion dives into Indeed’s aggressive moves to dominate hiring, forcing agencies to adopt APIs and share disposition data, reminiscent of old newspaper models, per Jim Durbin’s insights. Chad critiques Recruit Holdings’ push for a unified “HR matching market,” warning it’s a dated cost-per-hire approach doomed to fail, like Monster’s struggles. The rise of AI agents, like Jobright’s ($3.2M funding) and Wisq’s ($15M), sparks debate—Joel sees them revolutionizing job searches, while Chad fears “AI catfishing” inflating candidate profiles. Tech layoffs hit hard, with 22,000 cuts in 2025 (e.g., Bumble, Intel), impacting HR’s talent strategies and exacerbating infinite workday risks. J.T. highlights job seekers’ demand for reverse recruiting. And Ford’s CEO raising wages to retain workers underscores HR’s need for competitive pay to curb gig work reliance. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 05:11 AI Innovations and App Development 08:02 Upcoming 09:02 Indeed's New Strategies and Market Positioning 15:53 The Future of Job Applications and AI Agents 24:35 Layoffs and Workforce Dynamics 30:29 Reflections on Pay and Employment Trends

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

In this episode, your loyal hosts roll out the red carpet for Jim Durbin, the industry's "Indeed Whisperer," who’s here to spill the beans on Indeed’s latest shenanigans. The trio dives into Indeed’s shiny new job posting policies, the corporate game of telephone gone wrong inside the company, and how this hot mess is shaking up agencies and recruiters like a bad TikTok dance. Jim drops some truth bombs about why quality candidates trump a flood of resumes, the nerdy allure of disposition data, and what these changes mean for the wild world of recruitment. The episode wraps with some crystal ball gazing, predicting who’ll be popping champagne and who’ll be crying into their LinkedIn profiles as the industry scrambles to keep up. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to the Podcast and Guests 00:43 - Jim Durbin's Background and Expertise 01:45 - Indeed News and Changes in Recruitment Advertising05:08Impact of Changes on Agencies and TA Departments 09:52 - Understanding Indeed's Motives and Market Position 13:58 - The Role of Disposition Data in Recruitment 18:56 - The Future of Job Posting and Programmatic Solutions 20:19 - The Future of ATS and Data Management 22:29 - Challenges in ATS Integration and Data Quality 25:10 - Indeed's Strategy and Agency Dynamics 28:25 - The Impact of Quality Candidates on Recruitment 31:20 - Budgeting and the Future of Recruitment Advertising