

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
Episodes
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Sep 5, 2025 • 56min
Google Wins, Meta Spins, and a Recruitics Fail?
From Google’s “flock of dead canaries” warning shot to Meta’s latest identity crisis, this episode is jam-packed with chaos. Recruitix buys a mystery box, Nestlé boots its CEO over an office fling, and Taco Bell AI goes full waterpark mode. Oh, and Chipotle drones are now dropping burritos from the sky. You can’t make this stuff up—so we didn’t.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview of the Episode
03:52 Corporate Drama: CEO Dismissals and Scandals
06:10 A Tribute to Greg Louganis: Olympic Legacy and Challenges
08:53 The Fading Glory of Olympians
09:32 International Students and the Impact of Policy Changes
13:15 Upcoming Events and Networking Opportunities
15:34 Fantasy Football Draft Recap
19:14 Closing Thoughts and Future Topics
19:58 Google's Search Monopoly and Market Dynamics
22:42 The Impact of Workforce Imbalance
26:04 The Future of Google Search and Diversification
28:50 Recruitics Acquires Change State: A Strategic Move?
34:31 Meta's Leadership Shakeup and AI Focus
48:22 AI in Fast Food: Taco Bell's Experimentation

Sep 4, 2025 • 7min
Shredded: InstaLILY, Welcome Tech, Darwin AI, Recruitics, Change State, Laborup, Hubert, & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Sep 2, 2025 • 29min
AI in Hiring: Trust, Safety, and Why Compliance Freaks Out
What happens when you mix SmartRecruiters, a global AI pivot, and a comms pro who loves to “shake shit up”? You get Allyn Bailey dropping truth bombs on everything from why legacy ATS platforms should be left in a museum next to floppy disks, to how scheduling interviews is apparently the Mount Everest of HR tech problems.
Joel and Chad dig into:
Why “feature bloat” is killing platforms faster than a buffet kills willpower
The rise of AI agents that make every TA leader feel “special” (just like their mom told them)
How SmartRecruiters is “releasing the Kraken” on AI adoption—while trying not to terrify every compliance officer on Earth
Why Kenya and Eastern Europe are quietly kicking everyone else’s ass on AI innovation
And yes… the most celebrated use case for AI in recruiting is still… scheduling.
It’s part therapy session, part roast, part masterclass in how to burn down old TA processes without getting fired.
Strap in. Season 3 of The AI Sessions is here.

Aug 29, 2025 • 52min
Workday Buys Paradox | HR Tech’s Biggest AI Move Yet?
Strap on your helmets and tighten those chinstraps, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are celebrating their 1,500th episode with more swagger than a Cracker Barrel parking lot brawl.
Expect:
-Trump cosplaying as a mob boss at Intel and Cracker Barrel-Kelce + Swift rumors getting the “wink-wink” treatment-Fantasy football team names that would make your grandma blush-Workday dragging Paradox into the modern era-Employ Inc.’s CEO carousel—because why settle for one clown when you can have the whole circus?-Dayforce’s $12.3B private equity soap opera-Meta’s AI drama (aka “Zuck being Zuck”)
It’s business, it’s football, it’s chaos—and it’s all drenched in the unfiltered sarcasm you love.
1500 episodes later, the boys are still slinging takes hotter than a Browns fan’s rage.
Chapters:
00:00Celebrating 1500 Episodes
01:24Reflections on Current Events
05:53The Future of Restaurants
06:31AI in Business: The Human Factor
09:38Travis Kelsey and Celebrity Culture
11:14Fantasy Football Team Names
18:08Workday Acquires Paradox: A Game Changer
22:18The Rise and Fall of Jobbing
26:05Workday's Strategic Moves in AI
30:18The Future of Recruitment Tech
32:41Leadership Changes in Employee Tech
40:24Dayforce's Private Equity Acquisition
45:25Meta's AI Controversies and Hiring Pause
Grab your popcorn and a sense of humor—this episode’s a wild ride! Subscribe and checkout the eye candy at YouTube.com/@chadcheese and visit www.chadcheese.com today.

Aug 28, 2025 • 6min
Shredded: Dayforce, Pintarnya, Folks, Glow Talents, ZipRecruiter, Workday, Paradox & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Aug 27, 2025 • 22min
How Marriott Tackles AI, Complexity, and Fake Candidates
Marriott’s Tyler Weeks joins Chad & Cheese to unpack what it’s like running HR for a million humans (and possibly a few Roombas).
Expect:
Ritz-Carlton ghosting Joel harder than his prom date.
Why Marriott’s HR is basically 9,000 mom-and-pop shops in a trench coat.
The shocking discovery that AI doesn’t make great recruiters greater—it just stops the bad ones from lighting themselves on fire.
CFO ROI math so sketchy it belongs in a late-night infomercial.
And the big AI fix for fake résumés and deepfakes? Drag ‘em into the lobby for an old-fashioned, in-person interview.
This is hospitality meets HR Tech chaos—and Tyler’s got the room service order. 🍸
Listen :)

Aug 25, 2025 • 53min
Upwork’s €20M Bupty Bet, Denmark’s Deepfake Crackdown, and Europe’s 4-Day Work Week
Forget the Eiffel Tower, kids—we’re climbing the recruitment rollercoaster instead. Upwork’s shopping spree in Holland (Bupty? Buptie? Bupkis?), Denmark’s going full Face/Off to keep Nic Cage off Viggo’s jawline, and the UK is suddenly allergic to Fridays.
Joel’s out dropping Cole at college, so Chad is joined by Belgium’s royal pain Lieven and Scotland’s deep-fried-pizza poet Stephen McGrath. Loud Americans, entitled tourists, and the four-day work week—this one’s got more punch than a Glasgow nightclub at 2 a.m.
👉 Press play. Europe’s never been so dangerously entertaining.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
04:15 Shout Outs and Celebrations
11:11 Upwork's Strategic Acquisitions
22:52 The Future of Staffing and Technology
38:29 Denmark's Deepfake Legislation
44:24 The Four-Day Work Week Discussion

Aug 22, 2025 • 56min
Upwork & Indeed Target Randstad
🎧 This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast:
AI hiring lawsuits pile up faster than unread LinkedIn DMs
Upwork tries on staffing’s Blockbuster costume
Deel debuts creepy digital clones (no, not the cool Star Wars kind)
And Joel cries in Bloomington while Chad rants about Tim Apple
It’s HR tech, corporate drama, and just enough bad jokes to make you question humanity.
Chapters
00:00 - Intro: Chad and Cheese, the HR comedy duo you didn’t know you needed.
02:23 - College Drop-Off Diaries: Tears, tuition, and existential dread.
05:23 - AI in Hiring: When algorithms discriminate worse than your uncle at Thanksgiving.
17:15 - AI Recruitment: Is it saving HR or just ghosting candidates with flair?
23:14 - AI Hiring Outlook: Crystal balls and code, what’s next?
24:30 - AI Marketplaces: New risks, same old corporate facepalm.
26:20 - AI Governance: Trying to tame the tech beast in talent acquisition.
29:30 - Upwork’s Lifted: Enterprise staffing with a side of swagger.
36:17 - Deel and SiriusXM/iCIMS: AI innovations meet legal oopsies.
43:33 - Government Funds Shipbuilding: Because who doesn’t want to sail into 1850?
49:41 - Humans + AI: Recruitment’s new rom-com, minus the happy ending.
Grab your popcorn and a sense of humor—this episode’s a wild ride! Subscribe and checkout the eye candy at YouTube.com/@chadcheese and visit www.chadcheese.com today.

Aug 21, 2025 • 6min
Shredded: Visage, Rolebot, Workday, Upwork, Professional.me, Deel, & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Aug 19, 2025 • 28min
Domino’s HR Tech Transformation with Matt King
Domino’s isn’t just delivering pizza in 30 minutes or less anymore—they’re trying to deliver candidates, too. In this episode, we sit down with Matt King, Director of HR Tech at Domino’s, to talk AI, ATS drama, and why franchisees always have “better ideas” than corporate.
From killing off Kenexa (RIP, nobody misses you) to jumping into bed with SmartRecruiters, Domino’s is betting big on speed, automation, and a sprinkle of chatbot charm. Matt spills on:
Why hiring at Domino’s must be as fast as ordering a pepperoni with extra cheese.
How chatbots went from clunky decision trees to almost-human assistants (minus the dad jokes).
What happens when franchisees get in a room with vendors.
The eternal struggle between human touch and “just let the damn bot send the background check reminder.”
And yes—we even asked about the Noid. Because if Domino’s doesn’t bring him back as a recruiting chatbot, what are we even doing here?
It’s tech, pizza, and questionable morals—just another day on The Chad & Cheese Podcast: AI Sessions.


