

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Aug 12, 2024 • 34min
Firing Squad: Periodally's Hilla Hascalovici
Hilla Hascalovici, the founder of Period Ally, joins the Chad and Cheese podcast to discuss how her company helps companies support their menstruating employees. Period Ally offers high-quality products, pain management, menstrual leave and rest policies, training, events, and more. Julie Sowash takes over for Chad, as it's smarter to have smarts over snark on this episode. Hascalovici plans to raise money in the future and expand globally. The podcast hosts commend her for addressing an important issue and see potential for success in the market.Chapters00:00 - Introduction and Welcome03:03 -Pitching Periodally12:03 -Bathroom Products and Preferences15:10 - Cutting Through the Clutter21:37 - Product Fit in a Remote Work Environment28:03 - Pricing and Margins32:02 - Women's Success in the Workplace35:31 - Future Growth and ConclusionKeywordsHila Hascalovici, Periodally, period ally, menstruating employees, high-quality products, pain management, menstrual leave, rest policies, training, events, productivity, raising money, global expansion

Aug 9, 2024 • 51min
ZipRecruiter Slams Glassdoor
In this episode, the boys deliver snarky takes on current events in tech and recruitment. They discuss the appeal of a down-to-earth political figure, shout out Snoop Dogg for boosting Olympic viewership, and promote their presence at Recfest in Nashville.Theget ready for a critique of Intel's leadership amid layoffs, Tinder's failed live streaming, and question the hype around AI investments, particularly startups like Tezi and Ema. They also highlight ZipRecruiter's acquisition of Breakroom as a smart move, while expressing doubts about Skillfully's future in AI-powered hiring. It's time for sharp industry insights with a punch humor and punch. Chapters00:00 - Introduction and Reflections on the US Presidential Election03:09 - The Olympics: Sportsmanship and Inspiration06:00 -Layoffs at Major Companies: Leadership and Accountability09:18 - Shout-outs: Snoop Dogg, Dolce & Gabbana, and Keeyora10:56 -Upcoming Events: Recfest and Fantasy Football21:14 -Layoffs, Funding, and Acquisitions in the HR and Recruiting Industry28:41 -The Importance of Differentiation in the HR and Recruiting Industry35:02 - Buy or Sell: Reviewing Recent Funding Rounds45:54 - The Challenges Faced by the Restaurant IndustryKeywordsUS presidential election, Olympics, layoffs, Snoop Dogg, Dolce & Gabbana, Kiora, politics, sports, fashion, technology, HR, recruiting, layoffs, funding, AI, HR tech, acquisitions, restaurant industry

Aug 8, 2024 • 7min
Shredded: ZipRecruiter, LinkedIn, Adecco, Tezi, Ema, Inpactpool, Skillfully & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Aug 7, 2024 • 34min
AI Workforce Landscape with Lord Nat Wei
Recorded live from RecFest, this special episode of Chad and Cheese features Lord Wei, a member of the Science and Tech Committee in the House of Lords. It's not every day you hear from a political figure on the show! They dive into topics like AI regulation, workforce automation, and tech's role in recruitment. Don't miss it—follow Chad and Cheese for more unique insights.00:00 Introduction and Welcome0:55 Transition from Tech into Recruitment2:30 Lord Wei’s Short Bio3:23 Predicting the Era of AI5:14 AI is a Superhuman in Recruitment6:29 AI is about Skills7:52 AI Discovers Talent 9:51 Flexibility is Key13:45 Taking Advantage over Government15:23 Redeploying People into New Jobs18:33 AI Makes Hiring Fair19:59 Talent Is What Counts23:06 Gen Z 24:38 Bringing Migrants into the Workforce26:05 Integration into Hybrid Future

Aug 2, 2024 • 50min
Indeed's API Tax & Oracle Goes Easy
In this episode, Joel and Chad dig into a ton of tech news with a new segment called 'Big Mac or Nothing Burger' where they evaluate the significance topic by topic. Big Mac or Nothing Burger- Indeed charges $3 per API call - ZipRecruiter introduces new AI tools- New LinkedIn jobs guidelines- ChatGPT goes search - LinkedIn leans on ad networks to grow sales- Oracle introduces "Easy Apply"- SEEK NZ takes a nosedive and ending up with McDonald's once again blaming the economy for its woes. Get ready for technology trends, advertising strategies, market competition, consumer behavior, and Canada Joel!Chapters00:00 Introduction and Overview14:27 Indeed's new API tax21:07 ZipRecruiter's New Tools28:59 OpenAI's Search Engine32:44 LinkedIn Partnering with Publishers36:27 Oracle's new Easy Apply39:43 Seek Job Ad decline in New Zealand44:05 Heineken's Sales Decline48:09 McDonald's will blame anythingKeywordspodcast, Olympics, shoutouts, tech news, Indeed, ZipRecruiter, API, job postings, AI, resumes, recruitment, technology, job alerts, LinkedIn, job listings, OpenAI, search engine, social media, advertising, Oracle, job seekers, job ads, Heineken, McDonald's

Aug 1, 2024 • 7min
Shredded: LinkedIn, UKG, Oracle HCM, Gigpro, SAP, Icebreaker, ShiftRX & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Jul 31, 2024 • 35min
Indeed's Traffic and Revenue Decline
In this episode, Joel and Chad interview Jim Durbin, the Indeed Whisperer, about the challenges and future of job boards and recruitment marketing. They discuss the decline in traffic and revenue for Indeed, the potential expansion into temporary staffing, the importance of social media presence for job boards, and the CareerBuilder-Monster merger. Jim shares his insights on the industry and predicts that a tech company may acquire CareerBuilder and that ZipRecruiter may face challenges.Chapters00:00 - Introduction of The Indeed Whisperer02:30 - Indeed's Challenges and Potential Expansion10:10 - Indeed's Delcine and the Importance of Social Media13:28 - X as a LinkedIn Killer19:19 - CareerBuilder-Monster Merger28:04 - Acquiring CareerBuilder and Challenges for ZipRecruiterKeywordsjob boards, recruitment marketing, Indeed, temporary staffing, social media, CareerBuilder, Monster, predictions, ZipRecruiter, Job.com, Apollo, Randstad, Talent.com

Jul 26, 2024 • 47min
Fiverr Growing Pains and RNC Grindr Strains
On this week's show, the boys are talkin' Fiverr who's expanding its platform from a freelance marketplace to a "hiring platform," introducing new features like profession-based talent search and hourly rates. They are also adding AI-powered tools to enhance project management and user experience. Chad sees this as Fiverr growing up and moving away from short-term projects to longer-term relationships. However, Cheese sees it as a desperate move to compete in a changing landscape. What's more, Chad and Joel discuss various topics including the impact of AI on productivity, Joe Biden's decision to withdraw from the presidential race, Kamala Harris's qualifications, and the GOP convention's effect on Grindr usage. They highlight the need for proper implementation of AI to avoid increased workloads and burnout. They also emphasize the importance of knowing when to step down as a leader, and they discuss the potential benefits of age-gating in politics. Additionally, they address the Republican strategy of discrediting leaders of color and the significance of diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives.Chapters00:00 - Intro19:17 - The Impact of AI21:06 - Fiverr's Pivot30:35 - Knowing When to Step Down31:08 - Age Gating in Politics37:56 - Discrediting Leaders of ColorKeywordsFiverr, freelance marketplace, hiring platform, profession-based talent search, hourly rates, AI-powered tools, project management, user experience, changing landscape, AI, security, AI, productivity, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, GOP convention, Grindr, burnout, leadership, age gating, diversity, equity, inclusion

Jul 25, 2024 • 7min
Shredded: HireVue, Fiverr, Syndio, Recruiter.com, Passionfruit, Workstaff, Tech1M & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Jul 24, 2024 • 28min
Skills-Based Hiring is a Mirage w/ Jason Putnam
In this episode, Joel and Chad interview Jason Putnam, Chief Revenue Officer at Plum, about the flaws of skills-based hiring and the future of work. They discuss the challenges of becoming a skills-based organization, the importance of soft skills in hiring and promotion decisions, and the need for clean and comprehensive data to drive talent management. They also touch on the role of credentialing and the potential demise of the traditional resume. Overall, the conversation explores the evolving landscape of talent acquisition and management in the face of rapid technological advancements.Chapters00:00 - Introduction and Welcome02:13 - The Flaws of Skills-Based Hiring06:10 - The Challenges of Creating a Foundational Base for Skills-Based Hiring09:24 - The Integration of Talent Acquisition and Talent Management13:00 - The Importance of Transparency and Internal Mobility15:09 - The Role of Credentialing and Ongoing Learning24:28 - Optimism and Pessimism about the Future of WorkKeywordsskills-based hiring, future of work, soft skills, data, credentialing, resume, talent acquisition, talent management, AI, upskilling


