

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Evergreen Podcasts
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Sep 11, 2020 • 46min
2020 is Surreal, Right?
This week's show is a touchdown (honoring the NFL season, obvi ;) But it's a weird, surreal COVID kind of touchdown, like 2020 has delivered.But there is GOOD NEWS!
Jobvite buys Talentegy
Bullhorn banks Stone cold cash
Amazon staffs up
Netflix throws cash at top talent (not that kinda talent)
Microsoft turns LinkedIn into a Facebook $$ machine
...and lots of death-by-automation.
Want more you greedy bastards? How about a job board dedicated to space jobs!As always, powered by Sovren, JobAdx, and Jobvite.

Sep 9, 2020 • 4min
Bullhorn Gets a New Sugar Daddy
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Sep 9, 2020 • 26min
Cindy Gallop Blows S#!t Up
Let's blow shit up!Cindy Gallop, founder and former chair of the US branch of advertising firm Bartle Bogle Hegarty, and founder of the IfWeRanTheWorld and MakeLoveNotPorn companies is not your average brand or business innovator. Cindy brings a different level of candor to every discussion, meaning she will not mix words or beat around the bushes.A perfect The Chad & Cheese interview!Enjoy this Symphony Talent powered Chad and Cheese interview where Cindy talks hiring, equity, and technology for starters.
Sep 6, 2020 • 33min
Gettin' Wonky w/ Universal Healthcare
Economies run on healthy people. Healthy people are handcuffed to their employers. Entrepreneurs can only innovated if they can take those handcuffs off without the risk of losing their healthcare. How do we create a more healthy workforce and society?All hard questions that The Chad & Cheese can ask, but no way in HELL have the answer.Enter healthcare expert and former appointee by President Bill Clinton, John Gorman. John is a healthcare rockstar. At 25 years of age he was appointed as Assistant to the Director of Health Care Financing Administration’s (HCFA, now CMS) Office of Managed Care during the Clinton administration where was handling a $79 billion portfolio.... That's BILLION with a B kids.Big problems need big brains or AI developed by big brains. Enjoy this Sovren exclusive where the AI is the brain and so human you'll want to take it to dinner.
Sep 4, 2020 • 44min
HR Darwin Awards
Can we have a moment of silence for the death of Hire by Google? OK, enough of that.On this week’s episode, the boys cover
News from Florida, where SHRM conferences are competing for Darwin Awards
Staffing agencies are getting gobbled up by job sites.
SmartRecruiters kicks the cubical to the curb
Ultimate + Kronos = Crayon Marketing
Facebook plays the VR card
Burger King keeps blowing our minds and we finally reveal Chad’s porn name.
It’s a wild ride, recorded in-person from Columbus, Indiana and, as always, powered by Sovren, JobAdx, and Jobvite.

Sep 2, 2020 • 32min
Lead with Equity
Syndio is at the forefront of pay equity, a topic near-and-dear to our hearts, so the boys thought they bring CEO Maria Colacurcio on the show to get a read on what's going on and what the future holds when it comes to such issues.Enjoy another exclusive powered by NEXXT, with the double X.

Sep 1, 2020 • 4min
The Recruiting Robot Speaks English Now
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Aug 30, 2020 • 32min
Firing Squad: RecruitVirtual's Keith Ringer
People suck. Well, interacting with people in real life sucks, in addition to potentially being deadly, which is why everything in recruitment is going virtual. Zoom meetings, Slack convos, and virtual job fairs are all the rage, and RecruitVirtual thinks it has the chops to make a dent in this crowded space, bringing technology into the traditional brick-and-mortar career fair. Industry veteran Keith Ringer faces down the Firing Squad in this epic encounter, powered by PandoLogic.
Aug 28, 2020 • 42min
Indeed and Glassdoor Go Down
This week was full of boycotts, layoffs and another million jobless claims, the boys discuss them all, as well as...
Big drops at Indeed and Glassdoor
while Google for Jobs keeps expanding.
Google is kicking your strategic talent ass with certs
AI-powered jet vs. Humans
Gen Xers
....and Karen makes her first appearance on the show.
What the hell else do you want from us!?!?!As always, this show exists because Sovren, JobAdX, and Jobvite rock the house!

Aug 26, 2020 • 5min
Update: HiringSolved Layoffs
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.


