

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Oct 2, 2020 • 47min
CareerBuilder Misdirection
A hot mess inside a dumpster fire inside a train wreck might best describe this week. The boys unleash on everyone from:
CareerBuilder can't get their messaging right
iCIMS would like to reintroduce themselves
LinkedIn devolves quickly
Indeed goes away from their winning ways
Phenom People acquires My Ally
Want more?How about Amazon drones up in ya’ face! 2020 keeps gettin’ kinda hectic. As always, the weekly episode is sponsored by JobAdx, Sovren, and Jobvite.
Sep 30, 2020 • 27min
Stop Hiring Racists
It's time for the uncomfortable and hard conversations kids.If someone you know or are connected to promotes racism what would you do? Would you actively engage and educate? Or would you just hide and hope it all goes away?Well people, it is not going away and Madison Butler will not have any of it. Madison on LinkedIn aka Corporate Unicorn on Twitter speaks her mind and attracts racists on LinkedIn like a tiki torch magnet.This podcast segment hammers away on one burning question...How do we stop hiring racists?
Sep 29, 2020 • 4min
Chopping Block
CareerBuilder sells what?Big thanks Recruitology for supporting The Shred. Recruitology brings machine learning and AI to virtual job fairs, remember when virtual job fairs were lame? Not anymore, check out how you can leverage candidate matching and programmatic job distribution with a virtual job fair at recruitology.com/employers.

Sep 28, 2020 • 4min
LinkedTok? LinkedIn Launches Stories, New Search Features
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Sep 25, 2020 • 43min
Indeed Rumors
While the likes of Facebook, Amazon, Google and Apple are on trial for anticompetitive behavior, maybe Indeed should be thrown in the mix too.
Indeed rumors of cutting programmatic competition off at the knees
Naughty-naughty, much like Civvl, "the Uber of eviction teams." Classy.
Outmatch and Launchpad provide hope
and smaller cities who are seeing the big city masses coming their way.
Hello suburban home appreciation!And much more on this Sovren, JobAdx, and Jobvite powered production.
Sep 23, 2020 • 35min
Robots Need Chat Too!
Is it a chatbot? No, it's conversational AI. Wait, that's the same thing right? What can a bot do? How should it/her/he/they engage? All legit questions and reasons why Adam Godson and Josh Zywien, Paradox hot shots, join The Chad and Cheese Podcast. Wait, what about that McDonald's Alexa train wreck from last year? Oh yes, we cover that too :) Knowledge powered by the AI Gods at Sovren.com
Sep 18, 2020 • 42min
Careerbuilder Smoke Screen
Dumpster fires produce a lot of smoke, but none produce the amount of smoke that CareerBuilder's dumpster fire produces month-after-month.This week, the boys discuss:
- 300M Reasons to Keep Hating CareerBuilder
- The Great Rehire?
- Then we pullback the covers on a crappy Glassdoor wannabe
- Target gets it's diversity on
- and give Indeed a little love for its latest initiative.
This episode is going to hit the spot with Taco Bell wine and chocolate-covered Whoppers! Mmm, life is good.As always, you're favorite podcast is powered by JobAdx, Jobvite, and Sovren.
Sep 16, 2020 • 4min
Careerbuilder Does What?
Is this a flashback press release from 2012? CareerBuilder Commits to Three-Year, $300M Talent Acquisition Investment...Big thanks Recruitology for supporting The Shred. Recruitology brings machine learning and AI to virtual job fairs, remember when virtual job fairs were lame? Not anymore, check out how you can leverage candidate matching and programmatic job distribution with a virtual job fair at recruitology.com/employers.
Sep 16, 2020 • 29min
Cindy Blows S#!t Up pt.2
Let's blow shit up.... AGAIN! Cindy Gallop doesn't waste any time throwing haymakers in this final episode.(Click here for Episode 1) Who is Cindy Gallop? Wait, have you been in a cave for a decade? Cindy Gallop, founder and former chair of the US branch of advertising firm Bartle Bogle Hegarty, and founder of the IfWeRanTheWorld and MakeLoveNotPorn companies is a brand or business icon. Cindy boils down complex topics in an elegant way right before slapping the listener with the honesty they need and deserve. Enjoy this Symphony Talent powered The Chad and Cheese interview where Cindy talks hiring individuals with disabilities, answers the question "Should white dudes just STFU?" and deploys advice to Daddy Cheese.

Sep 13, 2020 • 30min
Firing Squad: Woven's Wes Winham
Pre-screening technology talent is hot, with employers clamoring for a better ways to find engineers while testing their core competencies, filtering out the bull and false claims.Enter Woven, who promises to help employers find hidden gems in their talent funnels. Sounds good, but the boys have final say on whether or not this spunky upstart gets applause or an itchy trigger finger.Firing Squad is proudly powered by the programmatic powerhouse known as (((Monster Truck voice))) PandoLogic!!!


