
Evolve Move Play Podcast
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Oct 11, 2021 • 2h 32min
Perception, Action & Ecological Dynamics with David Farrokh | EMP Podcast 92
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Today our guest is David Farrokh!
David runs a website called Big Picture Soccer and he's been looking closely at applying ecological dynamics to sports coaching for a number of years.
Naturally he's been following our ongoing conversations around motor learning, ecological dynamics, cognition and meaning making, and after my last chat with John Vervaeke he wanted to talk with me a bit about ecological psychology.
What started as an informal conversation ended up covering a lot of ground and being quite interesting, so I decided to record the rest of our chat and share it with you here on the podcast.
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Learn More about David Farrokh
Web: https://www.bigpicturesoccercoaching.com/
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Oct 4, 2021 • 1h 23min
Ascending Strength with Oliver Thorpe | EMP Podcast 91
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Today our guest is Oliver Thorpe!
With about 15 years of training and 11 years of coaching and performing, Oliver is one of the most experienced parkour and freerunning athletes in Denmark. If you keep an eye on viral parkour videos, you’ve probably seen footage of his amazing ability to scale buildings with incredible speed and precision.
I wanted to get Oliver on the show not only because of his incredible skill, but also because he helped pen a really interesting blog article responding to some of Theo Tanchak’s YouTube parkour science breakdowns.
I thought this would be a great chance to really dig into the scientific side of parkour and to see what methodology and philosophy he has around training at an elite level. So check it out and let us know what you think in the comments down below!
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Learn More about Oliver Thorpe
Web: https://www.ascendingstrength.com/
YT: https://www.youtube.com/user/Oliverthorpe1
IG: https://www.instagram.com/oliver_thorpe/
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Sep 27, 2021 • 1h 38min
Growing Wild with Katy Bowman | EMP Podcast 90
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Today our guest is the one and only Katy Bowman!
Katy is the founder of Nutritious Movement and an author of many incredible books that look at Natural Movement from a biomechanical perspective. If you haven’t had a chance to dig into her work yet I highly recommend it; she’s been a huge inspiration and influence in the development of Evolve Move Play and I’m really excited to have had the chance to talk with her and share her insights with this community.
Today we’re going to be talking about Katy’s newest book “Grow Wild”, which is a comprehensive look at how we can restore natural movement back into the lives of our children and how that kind of lifestyle can positively impact their development and improve their lives.
So check it out and let us know what you think in the comments below!
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Learn More about Katy Bowman
Web: https://www.nutritiousmovement.com/
YT: https://www.youtube.com/c/NutritiousMovementOfficial
IG: https://www.instagram.com/nutritiousmovement/
Click Here to buy Katie's New book: Grow Wild: The Whole-Child, Whole-Family, Nature-Rich Guide to Moving More
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Sep 20, 2021 • 53min
Parkour as Self Defense with Brandee Laird | EMP Podcast 89
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Today our guest is Brandee Laird!
Brandee is the founder of Citizen Operating Systems, which aims to encourage civic responsibility, create investment in challenging diseases of civilization, and empower extraordinary action by ordinary citizens through a unique blend of parkour, martial arts and other self defense disciplines.
Back in the day, Brandee was one of my very first apprentice coaches at Parkour Visions and she was really the first person to open my eyes to the important distinction between coaching as a science and an art. Where I was very drawn to creating detailed programs for athletic progression, Brandee’s classes were about creating a profound experience for the student, and that was reflected by the continual praise her students shared with me about her abilities as an instructor.
So I was really excited to bring her on and talk specifically about her recent work around self defense training and using parkour as a vital expression of that practice.
For anyone who’s ever been interested in self preservation training, or who has ever thought about how the practices of martial arts and parkour can mutually benefit and enhance one another, this episode will be right up your alley.
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Learn More about Brandee Laird
Web: https://www.citizenoperatingsystems.co/
YT: https://www.youtube.com/c/CitizenOperatingSystems
IG: https://www.instagram.com/monkeemoves/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/citizenoperatingsystems/
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Sep 10, 2021 • 1h 32min
LIVE Discussion With Nick Winkelman, John Vervaeke, Rafe & Beth Kelley | EMP Podcast 87
Welcome to our 5th LIVE airing of the EMP Podcast!
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Our members have already had the pleasure of speaking personally with Marlo Fisken, Mike Fitch, Tom Weksler, Yuri Marmerstein, and today's guests Nick Winkelman & John Vervaeke! We hope to see you soon in our thriving movement community!
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Today on the show we have Nick Winkelman and John Vervaeke joining us again!
Last time Nick and John appeared together on the podcast, we took a deep dive into looking at the role of embodiment and physical practices in overcoming the meaning crisis. We talked about how to scaffold up more integrated selves and better sense making from our physical practices, and how we can bring the sense making conversation down into the body.
Today I'll be joining the panel and the three of us will be interviewed by my wife Beth Kelley!
After the livestream, we'll be opening the room to our members of the EMP Academy and Podcast Plus to have a lengthy Q&A session about the topics we covered. If you want to join that room and talk with John, Nick and I personally after the show, hit the link above to sign up!
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Learn More about John Vervaeke
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyre9Ij2nCg&ab_channel=JohnVervaeke
Twitter: @vervaeke_john
Learn More about Nick Winkelman
IG: @nickwinkelman
Twitter: @NickWinkelman
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Sep 6, 2021 • 2h 5min
World Chase Tag With Christian And Damien Devaux EMP Podcast 88
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Today our guests are the founders of World Chase Tag (WCT) Christian and Damien Devaux!
If you haven't seen WCT, it's an exciting new competitive team sport based around the game of 1v1 tag within an arena filled with obstacles to navigate.
It's blown up in the past couple of years and has even been recently featured on ESPN, which has been huge for the parkour community.
So today I wanted to bring the founders on to have a chat about how WCT was conceptualized and how it's evolved to what it is today. So check it out, and let us know what you think down below!
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Learn More about World Chase Tag
Web: https://www.worldchasetag.com/
YT: https://www.youtube.com/c/WorldChaseTag
IG: https://www.instagram.com/worldchasetag/
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Aug 17, 2021 • 1h 43min
Physical Alchemy With Dave Wardman | EMP Podcast 86
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Today our guest is Dave Wardman!
Dave is a guide and the creator of the Physical Alchemy method. His influences and studies include practice and metaphysics drawing from Western physical culture, Sufism, Zen, Stretch Therapy, Martial Arts (traditional and modern), Bodywork, Ida Rolf, the teachings of Gurdjieff, shamanism, alchemy and more.
I’m excited to share this conversation because even though Dave and I share a very different approach to how we articulate and conceptualize our personal practices, I believe that what he’s doing with Physical Alchemy is very closely aligned with our work at Evolve Move Play.
Dave has also taken an interest in some of our recent conversations with John Vervaeke, Paul Vander Klay and Jonathan Pageau, so it is great to have him join the conversation to share his ideas around these running topics from a more esoteric and eastern perspective.
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Learn More about Dave Wardman
Web: https://physicalalchemy.com.au
YT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzTB6xr0FzWDQjGW8WpulHw
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Aug 9, 2021 • 1h 54min
The Yoga Of Communication With Guy Sengstock | EMP Podcast 85
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Today our guest is Guy Sengstock!
Guy is the founder and creator of the Circling™ Method. He has been facilitating transformation for individuals, groups and corporations internationally for more than 20 years. He has a BFA from the San Francisco Art Institute and is the co-founder of The Arête Center for Excellence and the Bay Area Men’s Circle.
We’ll be talking about the power of community practices in cultivating a more meaningful life as well as explore how many of the concepts we’ve been discussing on the show recently have emerged or evolved through our work over the years.
We’ll take a dive into the realms of religion, the counterculture, chaos and order, speculative fiction, and much more!
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Learn More about Guy Sengstock
Web: https://circlinginstitute.com/
YT: https://www.youtube.com/user/82472tclt
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Jul 16, 2021 • 1h 36min
Live Discussion With Yuri Marmerstein | EMP Podcast 84
Welcome to our 4th LIVE airing of the EMP Podcast!
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For today’s episode, our guest is Yuri Marmerstein!
Yuri is a professional acrobat based out of Las Vegas who originally came from a self-taught background and only started training as an adult.
He has performed on the Las Vegas Strip and on Broadway. In addition, he is the author of the ebook ”Balancing the Equation”; a full breakdown of the process of learning how to perform a handstand as an adult.
Over the years, Yuri’s training has included martial arts, gymnastics, circus arts, capoeira, weightlifting, and dance among other disciplines. This gives him a unique perspective on how to teach the skills to anyone regardless of level, age or background.
The last few years Yuri has been traveling the world teaching and sharing his knowledge with different communities.
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Learn More about Yuri Marmerstein
Web: https://www.yuri-mar.com/
YT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChOI-0z67jymsW6Xtz1yvHA
IG:@yuri_marmerstein
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Jul 5, 2021 • 2h 13min
Postmodernism Culture War And The Meaning Crisis With John Vervaeke | EMP Podcast 83
John Vervaeke, an expert in postmodernism and the meaning crisis, joins the podcast to discuss the rise of the culture war and the effects of postmodernism. They explore the positive aspects and failures of postmodernism, rooted in cognitive science, embodiment, and ecological psychology. The conversation also touches on controversial figures in anthropology, the influence of postmodernism on society, the origins and influences of postmodernist thinking, and the sinister side of postmodernism, specifically focusing on Foucault. They also delve into the intersection of science, politics, and the meaning crisis, the narrative on police brutality and violence against black men, and intergenerational trauma caused by historical racism. The podcast concludes with a discussion on reason, intelligibility, and expressing gratitude.
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