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A weekly show of constitutional debate hosted by National Constitution Center President and CEO Jeffrey Rosen where listeners can hear the best arguments on all sides of the constitutional issues at the center of American life.
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Jan 16, 2025 • 1h 10min
Can Texas Require Age Verification on Adult Sites?
Join Nadine Strossen, a former ACLU president and law professor, and Adam Candeub, a telecommunications and antitrust law expert, as they dissect the Supreme Court case on Texas's age verification law for adult websites. They explore the clash between free speech rights and the need to protect minors online. The conversation dives into the implications of technology on privacy, the responsibilities of parents versus service providers, and the potential re-evaluation of established legal precedents in safeguarding constitutional rights.

Jan 9, 2025 • 59min
The Future of TikTok
Jameel Jaffer, Executive Director of the Knight First Amendment Institute, and Zephyr Teachout, a law professor at Fordham, engage in a riveting discussion about the Supreme Court's case TikTok v. Garland. They debate whether a potential ban infringes upon First Amendment rights, exploring comparisons to historical cases. The conversation emphasizes the delicate balance between national security and freedom of expression, arguing against censorship while addressing concerns about foreign influence. Their insights call for transparency and careful scrutiny in regulating digital platforms.

Jan 3, 2025 • 1h 2min
For or Against Constitutional Originalism?
In this engaging discussion, Jonathan Gienapp, a Stanford professor and author of "Against Constitutional Originalism," joins Stephen Sachs, a Harvard Law expert on constitutional law, to challenge the concept of originalism in legal interpretation. They explore the historical development of originalism and its influence on landmark Supreme Court cases, including the Second Amendment debates. The conversation also touches on the role of popular sovereignty at the nation's founding, prompting listeners to reconsider how the Constitution is understood today.

Dec 25, 2024 • 57min
The Life and Constitutional Legacy of Gouverneur Morris
Join Melanie Miller, editor of the Gouverneur Morris Papers, Dennis Rasmussen, a political science professor and author, and William Treanor, dean of Georgetown Law Center, as they delve into the life of Gouverneur Morris. They explore his pivotal role in drafting the Constitution, particularly the Preamble, and his bold stance against slavery. Discover Morris’s complex character, his advocacy for executive power, and his overlooked legacy amid America's founding figures. Plus, hear about his unique insights on liberty during the French Revolution.

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Dec 20, 2024 • 53min
The Meese Revolution
Steven Calabresi, a law professor at Northwestern University, delves into the legacy of former Attorney General Edwin Meese and his pivotal role in shaping originalism. The conversation highlights how Meese transformed the Department of Justice into a center for originalist thought during the Reagan era. Calabresi discusses the ideological divides within originalism, the formation of the Federalist Society, and how these developments influenced Supreme Court nominations and judicial philosophy. His insights offer a fascinating glimpse into the evolution of constitutional interpretation.

Dec 13, 2024 • 1h 3min
How Religious Were the Founders?
In this discussion, guests Jane Calvert, a biography author on John Dickinson, Vincent Phillip Muñoz, a Notre Dame religion professor, and Thomas Kidd, a Baptist studies chair, delve into the nuanced role of religion among America's Founding Fathers. They examine varying personal faiths, from deism to traditional Christianity, and how these shaped ideals like religious liberty and governance. They also explore John Dickinson's Quaker influences and the philosophical foundations of natural rights, emphasizing the delicate balance between church and state that informed the Constitution.

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Dec 13, 2024 • 1h 2min
Can Tennessee Ban Medical Transitions for Transgender Minors?
Joining the discussion are David Gans, Director at the Constitutional Accountability Center, and Kurt Lash, Distinguished Professor of Law at the University of Richmond. They dive into the heated debate over Tennessee's law banning medical transitions for transgender minors. Gans argues this law violates the Equal Protection Clause, while Lash defends its legality. The two scholars dissect the implications of landmark cases like Bostock and Geduldig, scrutinizing legal standards for sex discrimination and the evolving interpretation of the 14th Amendment in relation to transgender rights.

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Nov 28, 2024 • 57min
Woodrow Wilson: The Light Withdrawn
Christopher Cox, a scholar and former U.S. representative, joins Geoffrey Stone, a distinguished professor at the University of Chicago, to delve into Woodrow Wilson's complex legacy. They tackle his inconsistent stances on women's suffrage, free speech, and racial equality, highlighting his administration's harsh suppression of dissent during WWI. The conversation also examines the tensions between national security and individual rights, alongside Wilson's troubling resegregation policies, offering a nuanced perspective on his historical impact.

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Nov 21, 2024 • 51min
The President’s Power to Make Recess Appointments
President-elect Trump’s allies have floated the possibility of suspending Congress in order to use the Recess Appointments Clause to install Cabinet officials without Senate confirmation. In this episode, Ed Whelan of the Ethics and Public Policy Center and Thomas Berry of the Cato Institute join Jeffrey Rosen to preview this plan and debate its legal merits.
Resources:
Center for Renewing America, “Brief: On the Article II Recess Appointments Clause” (November 17, 2024)
Ed Whelan, “A Terrible Anti-Constitutional Scheme of Recess Appointments,” National Review (November 12, 2024)
Ed Whelan, “The House Has No Authority to ‘Disagree’ with Senate’s Decision to Remain in Session,” National Review (November 17, 2024)
Edward Whelan, “The Radical Consequences of an Immediate Senate Recess," National Review (November 19, 2024)
Thomas Berry, “Thomas Berry (Cato Institute) on Trump's Recess Appointment Plan,” Volokh Conspiracy (November 15, 2024)
National Labor Relations Board v. Noel Canning (2014)
Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 76 (April 1, 1788)
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Nov 14, 2024 • 1h 23min
The Legacy of John Adams
Join Danielle Allen, a Harvard professor and civics education expert, and Jane Kamensky, president of the Thomas Jefferson Foundation and early American history authority, as they delve into John Adams's influential legacy. They discuss the Adams family's commitment to constitutional principles and civic duty, the need for enhanced civic education in today’s polarized society, and the interplay of faith and governance in early America. The conversation emphasizes storytelling’s role in democracy and the importance of deep reading in fostering civic engagement.