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A weekly show of constitutional debate hosted by National Constitution Center President and CEO Jeffrey Rosen where listeners can hear the best arguments on all sides of the constitutional issues at the center of American life.
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Oct 2, 2025 • 1h 1min
What Is the Legacy of the Roberts Court on Its 20th Anniversary?
Join Sarah Isgur, a legal commentator and SCOTUSblog editor, alongside Steve Vladeck, Georgetown law professor and Supreme Court expert, as they delve into the 20-year legacy of the Roberts Court. They discuss public perception and legitimacy amid rising partisanship. Explore the tension between judicial restraint and active agenda-shaping, plus the implications of major upcoming cases, including tariffs and executive powers. With insights on judicial dynamics and accountability, this conversation reveals the intricate balance the Court navigates in today's polarized landscape.

Sep 26, 2025 • 1h 4min
Can Government Officials Pressure Private Companies and Universities to Restrict Speech?
In this episode, Genevieve Lakier of the University of Chicago Law School and Eugene Volokh of the UCLA School of Law join to discuss the recent suspension of Jimmy Kimmel by ABC and the broader history and constitutionality of jawboning, the practice of government officials pressuring private actors to stifle speech.
Resources
National Rifle Association v. Vullo (2024)
Murthy v. Missouri (2024)
Bantam Books, Inc. v. Sullivan (1963)
Rust v. Sullivan (1991)
Genevieve Lakier, “Enforcing the First Amendment in an Era of Jawboning,” University of Chicago Law Review, Forthcoming 2026
Eugene Volokh, “Jimmy Kimmel, the NRA, and the First Amendment,” Volokh Conspiracy, September 18, 2025
In our new podcast, Pursuit: The Founders’ to Guide to Happiness Jeffrey Rosen explores the founders’ lives with the historians who know them best. Plus, filmmaker Ken Burns shares his daily practice of self-reflection.
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Sep 19, 2025 • 1h
A Conversation with Justice Amy Coney Barrett on ‘Listening to the Law’
Justice Amy Coney Barrett, a U.S. Supreme Court associate justice and author of *Listening to the Law*, shares insights from her legal journey and constitutional philosophy. She discusses growing up in New Orleans and the lessons from her family life. Barrett highlights her experiences with Justice Scalia and her commitment to originalism, emphasizing the importance of public meaning in constitutional interpretation. She also addresses the need for civility and collaboration in legal debates, advocating for a more humble approach to overcoming polarization.

Sep 11, 2025 • 30min
Introducing Pursuit: The Founders’ Guide to Happiness
Robert P. George, a Princeton professor known for his expertise in constitutional law, joins Jeffrey Rosen to redefine the 'pursuit of happiness' based on the Founding Fathers’ ideals. They explore how this concept has evolved from a focus on virtue and lifelong learning to modern individualism. Ken Burns shares insights from his self-reflections, connecting past and present. The discussion emphasizes the importance of character in self-governance and the ongoing quest for a meaningful life.

Sep 4, 2025 • 1h 6min
Can President Trump Fire Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook?
In this episode, Christine Chabot of Marquette University Law School and Michael McConnell of Stanford Law School join to discuss Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook’s termination and the broader legal and constitutional issues it raises, such as the constitutionality of the Federal Reserve and the scope of the president’s removal power.
Resources
Trump v. Wilcox (2025)
Collins v. Yellin (2021)
Seila Law LLC v. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (2020)
Humphrey’s Executor v. United States (1935)
Christine Chabot, “Is the Federal Reserve Constitutional? An Originalist Argument for Independent Agencies,” Notre Dame Law Review (2020)
Michael McConnell, “Opinion: Save the Federal Reserve’s independence by splitting the agency,” Washington Post (September 3, 2025)
In our new podcast, Pursuit: The Founders’ Guide to Happiness Jeffrey Rosen explores the founders’ lives with the historians who know them best. Plus, filmmaker Ken Burns shares his daily practice of self-reflection.
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Aug 28, 2025 • 1h 14min
The History and Future of Partisan Gerrymandering in America
Join Bradley Smith, former Federal Election Commission member, and Nicholas Stephanopoulos, a leading scholar in election law, as they dive into the murky waters of partisan gerrymandering. They unravel its historical roots, from Gilded Age tactics to today's contentious redistricting in states like Texas and California. Explore the tension between fair representation and partisan advantage, and hear compelling arguments for independent redistricting commissions. The duo also examines how gerrymandering fuels political polarization and challenges the democratic process.

Aug 21, 2025 • 58min
A Conversation on America’s 250th
In this episode, Sabrina Lynn Motley, director of the Smithsonian Folklife Festival at the Center for Folklife and Cultural Heritage, and Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, discuss how their institutions are celebrating America’s 250th birthday. This conversation took place at Chautauqua Institution 2025 Summer Assembly.
Resources
Jeff Rosen, The Pursuit of Liberty: How Hamilton and Jefferson Ignited the Lasting Battle Over Power in America
Chautauqua Institution, Sabrina Lynn Motley and Jeffrey Rosen
National Constitution Center, America’s Town Hall
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Aug 14, 2025 • 1h 5min
Is Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act Unconstitutional?
In this episode, Bradley Smith of Capital University Law School and Nicholas Stephanopoulos of Harvard Law School join to discuss the history and future of racial gerrymandering, including how the Court’s upcoming decision in Louisiana v. Callais could affect the Voting Rights Act.
Resources
Louisiana v. Callais (2025)
Allen v. Milligan (2023)
Shelby County v. Holder (2013)
Nicholas Stephanopoulos, Aligning Election Law (2024)
Bradley Smith, Unfree Speech: The Folly of Campaign Finance Reform (2001)
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Aug 7, 2025 • 1h 1min
The Oldest Constitutional Question
In this episode, Richard Primus of the University of Michigan Law School and John Harrison of the University of Virginia School of Law join to discuss Primus’s new book The Oldest Constitutional Question: Enumeration and Federal Power, which challenges the prevailing understanding of congressional power and argues that Congress is not limited to its textually enumerated powers. Their conversation traces how this fundamental disagreement has shaped key moments in American constitutional history, from the Founding Era to the New Deal, and why the debate remains unsettled today.
Resources
Richard Primus, The Oldest Constitutional Question: Enumeration and Federal Power (2025)
Richard Primus, “’The Essential Characteristic’: Enumerated Powers and the Bank of the United States,” Michigan Law Review (2018)
John Harrison, “Enumerated Federal Power and the Necessary and Proper Clause (reviewingThe Origins of the Necessary and Proper Clause by Gary Lawson, Geoffrey P. Miller, Robert G. Natelson, Guy I. Seidman),” The University of Chicago Law Review (2011)
McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)
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Jul 31, 2025 • 56min
The Past, Present, and Future of Abortion in America
In this episode, Mary Ziegler of the UC Davis School of Law and Stephen Gilles of the Quinnipiac University School of Law join to discuss Ziegler’s new book Personhood: The New Civil War over Reproduction, which explores the history and goals of the anti-abortion movement in the United States.
Resources
Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization (2022)
Mary Ziegler, Personhood: The New Civil War over Reproduction (2025)
Mary Ziegler, Abortion and Law in America: Roe v. Wade to the Present (2020)
Stephen Gilles, “What Does Dobbs Mean for the Constitutional Right to a Life-or-Health-Preserving Abortion,” Mississippi Law Journal (2023)
Stephen Gilles, “Why Fourteenth Amendment Personhood Requires Live Birth,” Notre Dame Journal of Ethics and Public Policy (2025)
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