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A weekly show of constitutional debate hosted by National Constitution Center President and CEO Jeffrey Rosen where listeners can hear the best arguments on all sides of the constitutional issues at the center of American life.
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Jan 15, 2026 • 1h 3min
The Story of the U.S. Constitution: Past and Present
Historian David Blight, renowned for his work on Civil War memory, joins constitutional experts Akhil Reed Amar and Annette Gordon-Reed in a riveting dialogue. They explore how the Declaration of Independence emerged as a human rights document, particularly during the abolitionist era. The conversation delves into Frederick Douglass’s critique of American ideals and the evolution of the Reconstruction Amendments. The guests also discuss the significance of the Declaration in modern democratic movements and historical resistance against oppression.

Jan 8, 2026 • 60min
Kathleen DuVal on Native Nations
Award-winning historian Kathleen DuVal shares insights from her upcoming book, exploring a millennium of Native history. She challenges simplistic narratives and emphasizes the sovereignty of Native nations. DuVal discusses significant topics like the rise of urban societies, the impact of climate change, and Native responses to European contact. She highlights collaborative efforts with Indigenous communities and critiques U.S. policies that aimed to erase Native identities while celebrating cultural revitalization and the ongoing significance of Native sovereignty in contemporary America.

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Jan 1, 2026 • 1h 4min
William F. Buckley and the Intellectual History of American Conservatism
Sam Tanenhaus, a prize-winning biographer, joins Matthew Continetti, author and conservatism expert, to delve into the life of William F. Buckley and the transformation of American conservatism. They explore Buckley’s early ideas, his strategic founding of National Review, and the impact of populism on conservative identity. The conversation highlights Buckley’s nuanced relationships with figures like McCarthy and Reagan, his complex views on race, and sparks intriguing discussions about whether he'd recognize today’s GOP. A deep dive into conservatism’s rich and contentious legacy!

Dec 25, 2025 • 58min
The Constitutional Legacy of Justice Robert Jackson
Join legal historian John Q. Barrett, whose work celebrates Robert H. Jackson's legacy, alongside constitutional scholar Gerard Magliocca, known for his insights on Jackson’s Steel Seizure concurrence, and historian G. Edward White, who delves into Jackson's life. They explore Jackson's impact on presidential power, his transformative experiences during the Nuremberg Trials, and the lasting implications of his legal theories. The discussion also touches on Jackson's role in landmark cases like Brown v. Board, illustrating his enduring influence on American jurisprudence.

Dec 19, 2025 • 1h
Ed Larson on Declaring Independence: Why 1776 Matters
Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Edward Larson discusses his newest book, Declaring Independence: Why 1776 Still Matters, which traces the idea of American independence in one pivotal year—1776—and its continued significance today. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates. This conversation was originally streamed live as part of the NCC’s America’s Town Hall program series on November 24, 2025.
Resources
Ed Larson, Declaring Independence: Why 1776 Matters (2025)
Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)
John Adams, Thoughts on Government (1776)
George Mason, First Draft of the Virginia Declaration of Rights (1776)
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Dec 11, 2025 • 1h 7min
Can President Trump Fire a Federal Trade Commissioner Without Cause?
In this episode, Thomas Berry of the Cato Institute and Jed Shugerman of the Boston University School of Law join the recap the oral arguments from Trump v. Slaughter and debate whether the statutory removal protections for members of the Federal Trade Commission violate the separation of powers. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates.
Resources
Thomas Berry, Brief of the Cato Institute as Amicus Curiae in Support of Petitioners (10/17/2025)
Jed Shugerman, Brief Amicus Curiae of Professor Jed Handelsman Shugerman in Support of Respondents (11/14/2025)
Jed Shugerman, “The Indecisions of 1789: Inconstant Originalism and Strategic Ambiguity” (2023)
Jane Manners and Lev Menand, “The Three Permissions: Presidential Removal and the Statutory Limits of Agency Independence” (2021)
Marbury v. Madison (1803)
Myers v. United States (1926)
Humphrey’s Executor v. United States (1935)
Morrison v. Olson (1988)
Seila Law LLC v. CFPB (2020)
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Dec 4, 2025 • 59min
Amending the Constitution and the Article V Project
Gerard Magliocca, a constitutional law scholar, discusses the historical context of constitutional conventions. He is joined by Michael Rappaport, who supports limited conventions to ensure structured amendment processes. Stephen Sachs raises concerns about the constitutionality of such conventions, referencing the 11th Amendment. Sanford Levinson advocates for a new constitutional convention to address urgent governance issues. Together, they explore the complexities and potential reforms surrounding Article V, emphasizing the need for popular sovereignty and clearer amendment processes.

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Nov 27, 2025 • 28min
From Pursuit: Silence in Order to Listen
Ken Burns, the acclaimed documentary filmmaker, reflects on the significance of silence in both life and creativity. Princeton professor Robert P. George discusses the founders' views on civic virtue and the importance of self-improvement. Baritone James Martin adds musical flair with performances of 'Silence is Golden' and 'The Pursuit of Happiness.' Together, they explore how silence fosters deep listening, the virtues of lifelong learning, and the responsibility of educating youth in civility, echoing the timeless nature of Franklin's wisdom.

Nov 20, 2025 • 44min
Eric Foner on Our Fragile Freedoms
Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Eric Foner dives into the contentious history of free speech and civil liberties in America. He highlights the Alien and Sedition Acts as a cautionary tale for today's challenges. Foner shares personal stories of his family's blacklisting and the lessons on courage this inspired. He discusses the evolving role of the Supreme Court in upholding free speech, the struggles of abolitionists against censorship, and the vital importance of civic engagement in protecting democratic values.

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Nov 13, 2025 • 1h 2min
Walter Isaacson on the Greatest Sentence Ever Written
Bestselling biographer Walter Isaacson dives into the meaning of the Declaration's second sentence, revealing how 'we' echoes social contract theory from thinkers like Locke. He discusses Franklin's impactful edit of 'self-evident,' grounded in reason, and tackles the founders' contradictions on equality and slavery. The conversation also branches into whether AI can restore civil discourse and the need for an economy focused on the common good, reflective of Franklin's civic ideals.


