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The go-to podcast for anyone trying to make sense of the world of marketing, business and beyond. In an industry that is a minefield of utter bollocks, we aim to capture our heroes and allies from the front line to have a chin-wag with.
It’s like Pokémon Go, with the single but vital exception that it’s not a short-term bandwagon of shite.
UK TOP 2 | US TOP 50 | RELEASED FORTNIGHTLY
The go-to podcast for anyone trying to make sense of the world of marketing, business and beyond. In an industry that is a minefield of utter bollocks, we aim to capture our heroes and allies from the front line to have a chin-wag with.
It’s like Pokémon Go, with the single but vital exception that it’s not a short-term bandwagon of shite.
UK TOP 2 | US TOP 50 | RELEASED FORTNIGHTLY
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Aug 9, 2019 • 1h 6min
14: One of the most talented designers around, Lee Davies talks on Behavioural Science, Signalling and Sheffield
This week we’ve caught The King in the North. Nope, it’s not Jon Snow, but one of Sheffield’s finest, Lee Davies. OK, he may not actually rule the North, but he’s certainly one of the most talented designers and creative directors in any part of Westeros the UK, for that matter.
He modestly calls himself ‘a right mess’, but growing up in a cultural backwater in Cheshire didn’t hinder him rising up to design great work for the creative brand communications agency Peter & Paul for 12 years, where clients have included the likes of Channel 4, Unilever and the V&A.
He lets us know all the details about his way of working, what makes for an effective creative process as a designer, brand identities, his passion and talent for writing, Behavioural Science, Signalling, Sheffield and a whole lot more.
Any budding designers, or anyone who simply wants their company or agency to produce better creative work, should bend their ear hither now.
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Instagram Peter & Paul
Twitter Peter & Paul
Twitter Lee Davies
How To by Michael Bierut
Made To Stick by Chip & Dan Heath
Creativity, Inc. by Ed Catmull
A Technique for Producing Ideas by James W. Young
The Anatomy of Humbug by Paul Feldwick
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Jul 26, 2019 • 50min
13: Psychologyical hacks for parents with the don of Behavioural Economics, Rory Sutherland [Part 2 of 2]
This episode is the most eagerly anticipated ‘Part 2’ since The Godfather movie series, as we resume our chat with The Don of Behavioural Economics in 2019; the one and only Rory Sutherland.
Rory Sutherland is a copywriter-turned-behavioural science expert and torch-bearer, and Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK. He’s been President of the IPA, Chair of the Judges for the Direct Jury at Cannes, and has entertained millions via his unrivalled TED Talks.
Rory writes regular columns for The Spectator, and is the author of two books: The Wiki Man and the recently published Alchemy, The surprising Power of Ideas which don't make Sense.
He talks on subjects even more wide ranging than Part 1, including: Nudgestock, Shakespeare as a behavioural economist, Psychological hacks for parents, Comedy, The Pratfall Effect with Vicars, Sloe Gin, and a whole lot more.
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Rory's Links (complete version available in Part 2 to follow)
Twitter: @RorySutherland
Alchemy: The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don't Make Sense by Rory Sutherland
Nudgestock 2019 speaker videos
Complexity and the Art of Public Policy by David Colander & Roland Kupers
Success and Luck by Robert H. Frank
The Darwin Economy by Robert H. Frank
Fooled by Randomness by Nassim Nicholas Taleb
The Naked Jape by Jimmy Carr & Lucy Greeves
The Mating Mind by Geoffrey Miller
Genes in Conflict by Robert Trivers
River out of Eden by Richard Dawkins
Gasp Links
Signalling by The Blogfather
Effectiveness by The Blogfather
Be Different by The Blogfather
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Jul 12, 2019 • 56min
12: Tips for those who dream of being a writer with multi-talented author, poet, and podcast host Giles Paley-Phillips
This week we’ve caught the uniquely and multi-talented author, poet, and podcast presenter, Giles Paley-Phillips. Giles is the award-winning author of children’s books including The Fearsome Beastie and Little Bell and the Moon, and talks to us on his motivations for writing, how he got published, and also some tips for those who have their own dreams of being a writer.
He delves into his role as a co-host on the British Podcast Awards nominated ‘Blank’ podcast alongside comedian Jim Daly, where stellar guests have included Gary Lineker and Louis Theroux. He also very generously and openly talks about his childhood, how his career developed, and his time on the road in a rock band, including a performance at the Glastonbury festival. Go listen and enjoy!
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Episode Links
Twitter: @eliistender10
BLANK podcast
One Hundred and Fifty-Two Days by Giles Paley-Phillips
The Fearsome Beastie by Giles Paley-Phillips
Little Bell and the Moon by Giles Paley-Phillips
So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed by John Ronson
A Game of Thrones Series by George R.R. Martin
Mentors by Russell Brand
Waiting For The Punch by Marc Maron
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Jun 28, 2019 • 1h 1min
11: An hour of Rory Sutherland on all things advertising, marketing, and psychology [Part 1 of 2]
This week we’ve caught Ogilvy UK’s and Behavioural Science’s finest, Rory Sutherland. It’s an hour of Rory. What do you expect? If it’s a jam-packed, entertaining chinwag on all things advertising, marketing and psychology then come tuck in.
For those for whom this will be a first dose of Rory, he is a copywriter-turned-behavioural science expert and torch-bearer, and Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK. He’s been President of the IPA, Chair of the Judges for the Direct Jury at Cannes, and has entertained millions via his unrivalled TED Talks.
Rory writes regular columns for The Spectator, and is the author of two books: The Wiki Man and the recently published Alchemy, The surprising Power of Ideas which don't make Sense.
He talks to us on a ton of topics, including; Direct Marketing, Measurement, Efficiency V’s Effectiveness, the state of the modern Ad Agency, Harry Potter, and the need to establish marketing as its own form of unique science.
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Rory's Links (complete version available in Part 2 to follow)
Twitter: @RorySutherland
Alchemy: The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don't Make Sense by Rory Sutherland
Gasp Links
Signalling by The Blogfather
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Jun 14, 2019 • 1h 12min
10: The Dutchman with a famous banana, Wiemer Snijders talks on how the scientific approach is helping to turn around marketing
This week we’ve caught Wiemer Snijders. A Dutchman with a famous banana, Wiemer is one of the most prominent figures at the forefront of Marketing Sciences.
Currently a Partner at The Commercial Works, he recently published Eat Your Greens: Fact-Based Thinking to Improve Your Brand’s Health, which features contributions from 35 of the world’s top marketers, including the likes of Byron Sharp, Mark Ritson and Bob Hoffman.
Listen to him talk on how the scientific approach is helping to turn around marketing, the possible root causes of the lack of long-term strategic thinking in the industry, and a whole lot more.
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Wiemer's Links:
Twitter: @wiemersnijders
Eat Your Greens by Wiemer Snijders
The Mind Is Flat by Nick Chaker
Bad Science by Ben Goldacre
It’s A Little More Complicated Than That by Ben Goldacre
How To Lie With Statistics by Darrell Huff
Naked Statistics by Charles Wheelan
Economics Facts And Fallacies by Thomas Saul
Factfulness by Hans Rosyln
Progress by Johan Norberg
The Consuming Instinct by Gad Saad
On Writing Well by William Zinsser
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May 31, 2019 • 58min
9: A great definition of strategy with Murray Calder
Listen to how we nearly lost one of the finest strategic minds in the industry to the ski instructing game. Murray Calder learnt his craft managing internationally renowned Scotch Whisky brands like Macallan, Highland Park, and The Famous Grouse, and his first job in the industry saw him do everything EXCEPT marketing, giving him a great grounding and a fundamentally important first lesson.
He’s been with MediaCom Edinburgh since 2006, where he is currently Strategy Director, and numerous honours bestowed on his bonce include a period as Chairman for the IPA in Scotland. He also now dabbles in wood block printing and typesetting, so plenty to lend your ears to. Listen and enjoy.
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Twitter: @ScotStratGuy
LinkedIn: Murray Calder
Culture series by Iain M Banks
The Makery Dunbar website
The Makery Dunbar Instagram
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May 17, 2019 • 1h 2min
8: Glenn Fisher is a copywriter adept at persuading people to act. Listen to his tips on how you can do the same.
Armed with a fishing pole and a tasty bait of Hemmingway, we caught none other than Glenn Fisher.
Arguably the most famous person to be born in Grimsby (by default), Glenn became a copywriter after a number of years working in the local council. For over a decade he worked with Agora, a multi-million pound international financial publisher, as Head of Copy.
He is now freelance, focussing on coaching aspiring copywriters, and has recently published his first book, The Art of the Click, which explores direct-response copywriting, which has received glowing endorsements from some of the best… including previous Call to Action guests Vikki Ross and Richard Shotton.
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Sophie's World by Jostein Gaarder
The Art of the Click by Glenn Fisher
History of Western Philosophy by Bertrand Russell
Great Leads: The Six Easiest Ways to Start Any Sales Message by John Forde
Books by Dave Trott, Milan Kundera and Paul Auster
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May 3, 2019 • 1h 13min
7: Marketing strategy, brand purpose and the problem with online advertising with Fredrik Hallberg
After traversing lakes, vast boreal forests and glaciated mountains, we finally caught up with the charismatic Fredrik Hallberg.
Being born in the most boring town in Sweden, Köping, propelled Fredrik to leap into the world of computers, and ultimately the internet, just to find something interesting.
Fast forward in time, and he is now a seasoned Marketing Strategy Director and Management Consultant with more than 20 years of experience consulting Fortune 500 companies, digital start-ups, tech giants and domestic brands.
A popular speaker at many public seminars and lectures, Fredrik has also just taken a brand spanking new position as a Partner at The Commercial Works alongside Wiemer Snijders, curator and editor of the brilliant ‘Eat Your Greens’.
He talks to us on marketing strategy, brand purpose, the problem with online advertising, how important David Hasselhoff was to him in early life and a whole lot more!
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Books by (Amazon Links):
Bob Hoffman
Dave Trott
Byron Sharp
Daniel Kahneman
Cas Sunstein
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Apr 19, 2019 • 55min
6: Meet one of the best copywriters in the business, Tone of Voice expert, Vikki Ross
Catching Vikki Ross was no mean feat; she's here, there and everywhere. One of the best copywriters in the business, Vikki specialises in Branding and Tone of Voice, running workshops all over the globe, and creating voices for some of the UK’s biggest brands, including The Body Shop, Sky, ITV, and Virgin Media.
She dedicates time to mentoring budding copywriters and is a very vocal champion of the art of copywriting itself. Vikki says; “Copywriting will take you further than you imagined – into people’s homes, onto high streets and on shoots around the world…”
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Vikki Ross
A Big Life in Advertising Mary Wells Lawrence
How To Write Better Copy by Steve Harrison
Persuasive Copywriting by Andy Maslen
Hey Whipple, Squeeze This! by Luke Sullivan
The Copy Book by D&AD
Ali Hanan / Creative Equals / Creative Equals Conference
For Creative Girls
Who's Your Momma?
@VikkiRossWrites #CopywritersUnite #CopySafari
Gasp (The Blogfather)
Context. The Devil is in the Detail
Building a Brand

Apr 5, 2019 • 1h 11min
5: The Dunning-Kruger effect and how to save marketing with Eaon Pritchard
This week’s podcast guest Eaon Pritchard was a tough catch, seeing as he is based in Melbourne and all, but that didn’t stop us collaring him for a chat.
He’s a self-proclaimed ‘advertising douchebag’, but that does him a disservice, as Eaon has worked as an ad creative and planner for over 20 years, firstly in London and now over in Oz.
He also lectures, consults, and writes regularly for WARC and other ad industry publications, while his spectacular and highly-praised book on advertising, ‘Where Did it All Go Wrong?’ caused R/GA’s Head of Strategy Rob Campbell to declare; “Eaon is funny and insightful. I hate him.”
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Eaon Pritchard:
Twitter: @eaonp
Where Did It All Go Wrong - Adventures At The Dunning Kruger Peak Of Advertising
The Stupidity Paradox: The Power and Pitfalls of Functional Stupidity at Work by Mats Alvesson
The Triumph of Emptiness: Consumption, Higher Education, and Work Organization by Mats Alvesson
Business Bullshit by Andre Spicer
Intuition Pumps And Other Tools for Thinking by Daniel C. Dennett
The Adapted Mind: Evolutionary Psychology and the Generation of Culture by Jerome H. Barkow
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