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The Curiosity Department, sponsored by Wix Studio
Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with guests across many creative fields, helping you hone your craft, unlock your creativity, and learn the art of collaboration.Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for anyone looking to better understand how to build a more innovative world.”
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Sep 3, 2019 • 4min
Journey into the connected workflow
As we prepare for the last episode of Season 3, take a look back at some of the stories that have inspired us. In this short update episode, hear from hosts Aarron Walter and Eli Woolery about what they've enjoyed about this season of the Design Better Podcast so far and preview our upcoming episode with Diego Rodriguez, Executive Vice President, Chief Product and Design Officer at Intuit. There's lots more to come, so be sure to subscribe for updates at www.designbetterpodcast.com.

Aug 19, 2019 • 43min
Che Douglas: Transforming design at The Wall Street Journal and Booking.com
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/che-douglasChe Douglas led the transformation of the design team at The Wall Street Journal, from a service-based organization to a strategic component of an embedded Engineering, Product and Design (EPD) structure. We chat with Che, who is now VP of Design at Booking.com, about how he got the right people involved to transform their design organization and spread design throughout the company. Che discusses the use of design sprints and how he showed the value of design to the organization through some of the team's key initiatives.Takeaways:
How the design team can best collaborate with key partners
Showing the value of design with a direct impact on the bottom line
Going beyond defensiveness and being open to critique

Aug 1, 2019 • 36min
Lori Kaplan: Atlassian's playbook for team collaboration
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/lori-kaplanLori Kaplan is a veteran design leader, whose pioneering work includes authorship of the original Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines in the 1980s. In this episode we speak with Lori about how the Atlassian playbook helps both internal and external teams address design challenges, the deep roots of cross-functional collaboration at the company, as well as Lori’s perspective on how attitudes towards design have shifted in recent years across industries.Takeaways:
How Atlassian “designs across the seams” with a broad view of the customer
The habits and rituals of teams within Atlassian that help create better cross-functional collaboration
How quantitative and qualitative metrics work together to measure the impact of design.

Jul 22, 2019 • 41min
Quinton Larson: How Indeed kicks off projects the right way
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/quinton-larsonQuinton Larson is a design leader who has consistently brought thoughtful leadership into the companies where he works. In this episode we speak with Quinton about his prior work at IDEO and eBay, his involvement with Indeed’s Job Seeker Journey team, how he makes sure the right people are involved in project kickoffs, and how design systems help create a more connected workflow between designers and developers.Takeaways:
Getting the right people involved in project kickoffs
Being adaptable as a design leader
Working efficiently and thoughtfully with key partners

Jul 8, 2019 • 51min
Bob Baxley: How Apple ran design like the Saturday Night Live writer's room
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/bob-baxleyWhat do Yahoo, Apple, and Pinterest have in common? Silicon Valley design vet Bob Baxley. With extensive design leadership experience under his belt, Bob knows a thing or two about bridging the gaps between teams to help champion a connected workflow. In this episode, Aarron and Eli tap Bob’s insights on productive design reviews, getting in sync with engineers, and what it takes to build key relationships with executives—all in the name of making products people can’t imagine living without.

Jun 25, 2019 • 52min
Josh Ulm: Wells Fargo’s VP of Design on how design should be influencing business
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/josh-ulmJosh Ulm has quite the CV—Adobe Design Lead, Vodafone Head of UX, Oracle VP of Design, and now Wells Fargo SVP of Strategic Design and Insights. One thing he’s learned along the way is that “the most valuable role for design to play is influencing the business—not just the product." In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Aarron and Eli covered subjects ranging from where the connected workflow is most broken, to the one critical question to ask executive sponsors when starting a project.

Jun 7, 2019 • 50min
Brad Frost and Dan Mall: Rethinking Agile and how designers collaborate with developers
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/brad-frost-dan-mallEnter design system pros Brad Frost and Dan Mall, long-time collaborators known for their expertise in bridging the gap between designers and developers. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Aarron and Eli talk with Dan and Brad about reducing friction between these two very different disciplines. They explore a few misconceptions around agile methodology, the risks of the creative technologist role, and breaking the design process to fix it. This is a conversation you don’t want to miss.

May 28, 2019 • 48min
Benjamin Evans: How Airbnb uses inclusive design to create a successful business
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/benjamin-evansBenjamin Evans, Inclusive Design Lead for Airbnb, is part of a new kind of problem solvers tackling issues like racism, sexism, and bias in digital product design. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Eli and Aarron chat with Benjamin about using techniques like design thinking, research, and storytelling to ensure a more inclusive experience for all your users.

May 13, 2019 • 44min
Abigail Hart Gray: Google's Director of UX explains design to non-designers with numbers
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/abigail-grayAbigail Hart Gray, Director of UX at Google, is one of the most inspiring design leaders we know. A self-proclaimed analytics nerd, Abigail uses numbers to deftly communicate the value of design to her colleagues, giving her team the runway to do great work. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Eli and Aarron get Abigail’s take on measuring design’s impact on business, how parenthood has changed her approach to problem solving, and more.

Apr 29, 2019 • 52min
Julie Zhuo: Facebook's former VP of Product Design on what she got right and wrong as a leader
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/julie-zhuoListen as Julie Zhuo, VP of Product Design at Facebook and author of The Making of a Manager, recalls some of her earliest professional experiences at one of the fastest growing companies on the planet. She reveals how she got her start and grew to be a highly influential design leader renowned for building top-notch teams. Julie talks about the difference between leading and managing, and shares personal examples that can help you advance your career.BioJulie Zhuo is one of Silicon Valley’s top product design executives and author of The Making of a Manager. Aside from her day job as VP of Product Design at Facebook, Julie writes about technology, design, and leadership on her popular blog The Year of the Looking Glass and in The New York Times and Fast Company.


