
School's In
Unlock the future of learning with School’s In, your go-to podcast for cutting-edge insights and enlightening conversations in education. Presented by Stanford Graduate School of Education (Stanford GSE), this podcast is hosted by Dean Dan Schwartz and Senior Lecturer Denise Pope. They invite you to join them as they navigate the complexities of post-pandemic education and discuss the latest research in teaching and learning.
This season on School’s In, we delve into a variety of pressing topics with the help of our fellow Stanford experts. Discover how AI is transforming classrooms and personalizing learning experiences. Learn effective strategies to tackle chronic absenteeism and summer learning loss, and explore solutions for addressing educational inequality and supporting youth mental health. Additionally, we examine the role technology plays in reshaping learning environments. Join us as we discuss the incredible research being done in education today.
Dan Schwartz is a recognized expert in human learning and educational technology. As dean of Stanford GSE, he has led numerous initiatives to advance effective teaching strategies and technologies. He also serves as faculty director of the Stanford Accelerator for Learning, which aims to advance the science and design of learning to bring effective and equitable solutions to the world.
Denise Pope specializes in student well-being and engagement. A senior lecturer at Stanford GSE, her research focuses on academic stress and its consequences on students' mental health and learning. She is the author of several books and articles that support parents and teachers in creating more positive learning environments, including Doing School: How We Are Creating a Generation of Stressed Out, Materialistic, and Miseducated Students. Pope is also co-founder of the education nonprofit Challenge Success, which promotes equitable practices for balanced lives.
Together, they offer valuable observations and practical advice for parents, caregivers, educators, and anyone connected to the learning community. With a commitment to educational equity and innovation, they bring you expert perspectives and engaging conversations on the critical issues facing learners today.
Stanford GSE is a leader in education research and teaching, known for its commitment to pursuing equitable, accessible, and effective learning for all. The school’s dedication to preparing educators and researchers through interdisciplinary approaches ensures its lasting impact on the field.
“We’re here to help you navigate the complexities of post-pandemic education and stay ahead of the learning curve” says Schwartz, “so join us as we discuss practical solutions to some of education’s most challenging issues.”
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Latest episodes

Jan 23, 2025 • 27min
Passion and persistence: Lessons from an education entrepreneur
What does it take to be a successful entrepreneur in education? And how does one create an educational product or service that is profitable?On this episode of School’s In, hosts Dan Schwartz and Denise Pope welcome Joy Chen, entrepreneur in residence at Stanford Graduate School of Education, to discuss entrepreneurship in education – its challenges, rewards, and impact. Chen covers several topics, including:Her entrepreneurial journey, and what others can learn from her experienceQuestions entrepreneurs should ask themselves before launching a company or productThe importance of hiring and valuing great people, and how to balance risks and rewardsHow to create an educational product or service that is both profitable and meaningful to societyWhat investors look for in educational startups, and how these factors should shape entrepreneurs’ thinkingJoy Chen is an entrepreneur-in-residence at Stanford Graduate School of Education (GSE), where she collaborates with GSE professors, researchers, students, technologists, and innovators by leveraging her expertise to explore new ideas and opportunities in the education space. Previously, she worked for top consulting and Fortune 500 companies such as Ernst & Young, Verizon, and Microsoft, where she designed and developed digital learning, knowledge management, and professional development systems. To learn more about her work, visit her profile.School’s In is your go-to podcast for cutting-edge insights and enlightening conversations in education. Presented by the GSE, School’s In is hosted by GSE Dean Dan Schwartz and Senior Lecturer Denise Pope. They invite you to join them as they navigate the complexities of post-pandemic education and discuss the latest research in teaching and learning.Stanford GSE is a leader in education research and teaching, known for its commitment to pursuing equitable, accessible, and effective learning for all. To keep up with our research, subscribe to our newsletter and follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads.

Jan 9, 2025 • 26min
Starting a startup: What it takes to innovate in education
How is the world of entrepreneurship driving innovation in education? And how can business strategies and creative thinking make learning more accessible for everyone?On this episode of School’s In, hosts Dan Schwartz and Denise Pope welcome venture capital investor Sergio Monsalve to discuss the skills and dispositions that make great entrepreneurs, and how great ideas can be applied to education to create lasting change. Monsalve covers several topics, including:Bringing people from education, business, and engineering together to create edtech solutions to educational challengesCreating a good pitch and what investors typically look forBalancing the pace of academic research and speed of iterative entrepreneurshipNavigating the tension between making a profit as a business and creating a product that is beneficial for studentsEnsuring educational tools are affordable, scalable, and sustainableSergio Monsalve is a venture capital investor and a co-founder of the Entrepreneur-in-Residence program at Stanford Graduate School of Education (GSE). He is a founding partner of Roble Ventures, an early-stage technology venture capital fund where he enables entrepreneurs interested in helping people achieve economic mobility. School’s In is your go-to podcast for cutting-edge insights and enlightening conversations in education. Presented by the GSE, School’s In is hosted by GSE Dean Dan Schwartz and Senior Lecturer Denise Pope. They invite you to join them as they navigate the complexities of post-pandemic education and discuss the latest research in teaching and learning.Stanford GSE is a leader in education research and teaching, known for its commitment to pursuing equitable, accessible, and effective learning for all. To keep up with our research, subscribe to our newsletter and follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads.

Dec 19, 2024 • 27min
Supporting students: Housing, health, and education
How does unstable housing affect student success? And how can schools identify students in unstable housing and partner with community organizations to support them?On this episode of School’s In, hosts Dan Schwartz and Denise Pope welcome Amy Gerstein, executive director of Stanford’s John W. Gardner Center for Youth and Their Communities, to discuss how unstable housing affects educational outcomes and why it’s imperative that schools look to the larger community for help. Gerstein talks about several topics, including:The effects of unstable housing on students’ academic performance, attendance, and high school completionUnderreporting of unstable housing by students and families due to stigma, fear of repercussions, and lack of awareness of resources and support How different definitions of homelessness complicate identification and resource allocationWhat kinds of resources schools, districts, and community organizations should provide to have the most impactHow the community school model can be effective in integrating services like healthcare and housing supportTraining to ensure school staff can identify and sensitively support at-risk youth.Amy Gerstein is the executive director of the John W. Gardner Center for Youth and their Communities, which conducts research in partnership with school districts, nonprofits, foundations, and government agencies to advance equity for young people and the people around them. In her role, she provides strategic direction and works with community members across sectors. To learn more about her work, visit her profile.School’s In is your go-to podcast for cutting-edge insights and enlightening conversations in education. Presented by the Graduate School of Education (GSE), School’s In is hosted by GSE Dean Dan Schwartz and Senior Lecturer Denise Pope. They invite you to join them as they navigate the complexities of post-pandemic education and discuss the latest research in teaching and learning.Stanford GSE is a leader in education research and teaching, known for its commitment to pursuing equitable, accessible, and effective learning for all. To keep up with our research, subscribe to our newsletter and follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads.

Dec 5, 2024 • 24min
The AI Tinkery: A sandbox for educators
How do creativity, tinkering, and hands-on learning support education? And can AI expand the possibilities for cultivating creativity in the classroom?On this episode of School’s In, hosts Dan Schwartz and Denise Pope welcome Stanford Graduate School of Education (GSE) Senior Lecturer Karin Forssell to discuss AI and how Stanford is helping students navigate the technology through the GSE’s new AI Tinkery, a maker space focused on the use of AI in education. Forssell covers several touch points, including:What goes into creating a successful makerspaceThe learning outcomes that come as a result of creating thingsHow generative AI can be used to create classroom tools and lesson plansThe importance of learning how to collaborate and creatively think through problemsHow to discuss and teach the ethics of using AI in classroom settingsKarin Forssell is a senior lecturer and the director of the GSE’s Learning Design and Technology master’s program. She also directs the GSE’s Makery, a Stanford maker space where students and faculty learn to make, and make to learn. In her courses, she teaches students to use research from the learning sciences and learning-centered design processes to create effective digital tools. To learn more about her work, visit her faculty profile.School’s In is your go-to podcast for cutting-edge insights and enlightening conversations in education. Presented by the GSE, School’s In is hosted by GSE Dean Dan Schwartz and Senior Lecturer Denise Pope. They invite you to join them as they navigate the complexities of post-pandemic education and discuss the latest research in teaching and learning.Stanford GSE is a leader in education research and teaching, known for its commitment to pursuing equitable, accessible, and effective learning for all. To keep up with our research, subscribe to our newsletter and follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads.

Nov 21, 2024 • 30min
The education marketplace: How to make edtech more effective
Isabelle Hau, Executive Director of the Stanford Accelerator for Learning, discusses the evolving edtech landscape and its impact on education. She explores the challenges schools face with new technologies, like low adoption rates and equity gaps. Hau delves into the balance between profit and public good, stressing the importance of evidence-based decisions. She shares insights on how startups can innovate effectively and highlights future opportunities for equitable access and AI-driven solutions in classrooms.

Nov 7, 2024 • 24min
Chatting about chatbots: How AI tools can support teachers
What role will AI tools play in the classroom? And how can the technology be used to support teachers?On this episode of School’s In, hosts Dan Schwartz and Denise Pope welcome Stanford Graduate School of Education (GSE) Assistant Professor Dora Demszky to discuss using artificial intelligence as a tool for giving feedback to teachers, with the goal of supporting continuous improvement in their practice. Demszky covers several ways in which AI can be used to empower teachers, including:Highlighting moments in a teacher’s lesson for them to revisit and reflect uponReinforcing practices that help develop a growth mindset in studentsStrengthening the practice of building on student ideas to help students feel heard Providing examples from other instructors to create a shared community for professional learningLeveraging future applications to support multilingual learnersDora Demszky is an assistant professor of data science and her research centers on developing natural language processing methods to support equitable and student-centered instruction. She has developed tools to give feedback to teachers on dialogic instructional practices, to analyze representation in textbooks, among others. To learn more about her research, visit her faculty profile.School’s In is your go-to podcast for cutting-edge insights and enlightening conversations in education. Presented by Stanford Graduate School of Education (GSE), School’s In is hosted by GSE Dean Dan Schwartz and Senior Lecturer Denise Pope. They invite you to join them as they navigate the complexities of post-pandemic education and discuss the latest research in teaching and learning.Stanford GSE is a leader in education research and teaching, known for its commitment to pursuing equitable, accessible, and effective learning for all. To keep up with our research, subscribe to our newsletter and follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads.

Oct 24, 2024 • 31min
Youth mental health: Teaching (and learning) empathy
What roles do empathy and compassion play in our ability to have healthy relationships? And what does it look like to apply those concepts to oneself?On this episode of School’s In, hosts Dan Schwartz and Denise Pope welcome Stanford Psychology Professor Jamil Zaki to discuss compassion, empathy, and what our perceptions of the world say about us. Zaki touches on several related matters, including:The science of self compassion and its effect on mental healthHow schools and communities can develop empathy in young people and encourage them to practice itTools for cooperation and collaboration in the midst of divisionHow cynicism reflects bias, rather than wisdom, and why it helps to be hopefulProfessor Jamil Zaki’s research examines the neuroscience behind decision making, self regulation, social cognition, and perception, among other social and behavioral functions. He is also the principal investigator for the Stanford Social Neuroscience Laboratory, which studies the cognitive bases of social behaviors. To learn more about his research, visit his faculty profile.If you or someone you know is struggling with their emotional health, the National Institute of Mental Health lists resources on their webpage.School’s In is your go-to podcast for cutting-edge insights and enlightening conversations in education. Presented by Stanford Graduate School of Education (GSE), School’s In is hosted by GSE Dean Dan Schwartz and Senior Lecturer Denise Pope. They invite you to join them as they navigate the complexities of post-pandemic education and discuss the latest research in teaching and learning.Stanford GSE is a leader in education research and teaching, known for its commitment to pursuing equitable, accessible, and effective learning for all. To keep up with our research, subscribe to our newsletter and follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads.

Oct 10, 2024 • 27min
Youth mental health: Racial trauma and stress
What are the largest threats to mental health facing modern teens? And how can parents, educators, and other adults help them thrive despite their challenges?On this episode of School’s In, hosts Dan Schwartz and Denise Pope welcome Assistant Professor Farzana (Saleem) Adjah to discuss racial trauma and stress and the effect that it has on student mental health. Adjah covers several relevant topics, including:How trauma and racial bias shows up in schoolsHow educators can adopt a culturally-responsive, trauma-informed lens when interacting with studentsWhat research-backed, group-based interventions help promote healing and resistance to further harmHow to empower young people to name what’s happening to them, resist harm, respond, and ultimately thriveAssistant Professor Farzana Adjah’s research examines the influence of racial stressors and culturally-relevant practices on the psychological health, academic success, and well-being of Black adolescents and other youth of color. Her work focuses on factors in the family, school, and community contexts that can help youth manage the consequences of racial stress and trauma. To learn more about her research, visit her faculty profile.If you or someone you know is struggling with their emotional health, the National Institute of Mental Health lists resources on their webpage.School’s In is your go-to podcast for cutting-edge insights and enlightening conversations in education. Presented by Stanford Graduate School of Education (GSE), School’s In is hosted by GSE Dean Dan Schwartz and Senior Lecturer Denise Pope. They invite you to join them as they navigate the complexities of post-pandemic education and discuss the latest research in teaching and learning.Stanford GSE is a leader in education research and teaching, known for its commitment to pursuing equitable, accessible, and effective learning for all. To keep up with our research, subscribe to our newsletter and follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads.

Sep 26, 2024 • 25min
Youth mental health: Finding support
What are some of the most serious mental health challenges facing our young people today? And how can we create the support that they really need?On this episode of School’s In, hosts Dan Schwartz and Denise Pope welcome Dr. Steven Adelsheim, clinical professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford School of Medicine, as they discuss how the pandemic affected students’ mental health. Steven works on several facets of youth mental health, including:What’s behind rising rates of anxiety, depression, other mental health issuesThe development of statewide mental health systems, including those focused on schoolsEarly detection and intervention programs for young people both in school and in primary careSupporting community behavioral health partnerships locally and at scaleClinical Professor Steven Adelsheim is a child/adolescent and adult psychiatrist and the director of the Stanford Center for Youth Mental Health and Wellbeing in the Department of Psychiatry. His work focuses on early mental health intervention for young people, integrated health care models and decreasing stigma surrounding mental health issues. To learn more about his research, visit his faculty profile.If you or someone you know is struggling with their emotional health, the National Institute of Mental Health lists resources on their webpage.School’s In is your go-to podcast for cutting-edge insights and enlightening conversations in education. Presented by Stanford Graduate School of Education (GSE), School’s In is hosted by GSE Dean Dan Schwartz and Senior Lecturer Denise Pope. They invite you to join them as they navigate the complexities of post-pandemic education and discuss the latest research in teaching and learning.Stanford GSE is a leader in education research and teaching, known for its commitment to pursuing equitable, accessible, and effective learning for all. To keep up with our research, subscribe to our newsletter and follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads.Never miss an episode! Subscribe to School’s in on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Sep 12, 2024 • 26min
AI in the classroom: Equity, creativity, and teaching
Join Associate Professor Victor Lee, an expert in AI's role in education, as he dives into how generative AI is reshaping classrooms. He discusses the balance of AI as a supportive tool versus fostering essential skills in students. Victor highlights AI's potential benefits and its challenges, including the need for equitable access and understanding AI's limitations. Get ready to explore fresh innovations in teaching that intertwine technology and creativity, preparing learners for a future where AI is integral.