Thought Behind Things
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
TBT is Pakistan's fastest-growing podcast show covering conversations around Art, Culture & Technology. Tune in thrice a week to be a part of our community!
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
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Nov 24, 2025 • 1h 48min
Game Sports Founder: Pakistanis DON'T Care About Any Other Sport Except CRICKET!! | 478 | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by the founder of Game Sports Management, one of Pakistan’s few companies trying to turn athletes into real commercial brands.From managing Wasim Akram to building a full sports business, he shares the why Pakistan’s athletes never grow, why our sports ecosystem is broken, and how countries like India turned every sport into a billion-dollar industry while Pakistan stayed stuck.We explore:Why the 2008 crash pushed him into sportsHow working with Wasim Akram changed everythingWhy Pakistan has no real system for athlete brandingWhy Indian stars become global icons but Pakistan’s don’tHow Pakistan’s sports industry can explode by 2050A conversation on the future of sports, talent management, personal brand, and the business behind athletes.Socials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Arsalan's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arsalanhydershah/Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistanSpecial thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
Nov 19, 2025 • 1h 56min
ALETHIA AI Founder: We Made Muzamil’s AI Avatar & Asked WHO HE’D VOTE FOR!! | 477 | TBT
CHECK OUT MY AI AVATAR: https://muzamil.alethia.ai/In this episode, we sit down with Arif Khan, Founder & CEO of ALETHIA AI, the global startup building real-time interactive AI agents, with a major part of the technology being developed in Pakistan.We Explore:Creating AI versions of real peopleHow Muzamil’s own AI avatar was trainedUsing AI for education, government services, counselling, and digital accessWhat the post-AI world will look likeAnd why energy scarcity might become the biggest challenge of the AI boomA deep, honest, and mind-bending conversation about AI, identity, misuse, and the future of knowledge.Socials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Arif's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikhan/Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistanSpecial thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
Nov 17, 2025 • 2h 20min
Ziyad Parekh: We Process As Many Transactions As HBL!! | 476 | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Ziyad Parekh, Co-Founder & CEO of Safepay, one of Pakistan’s most exciting fintech startups and a Y-Combinator backed startup.Ziyad shares how he went from Karachi to New York and why he left everything to return home and build Pakistan’s version of Stripe. We uncover how Safepay survived being taken to zero overnight, how they rebuilt with grit, and why they now process volumes comparable to giants like HBL.We Explore:VISA/Mastercard charging Rs. 30 per transactionGetting Investment From StripeKarachi's Poor infrastructure How RAAST might change everythingAnd what the future of digital payments will look likeSocials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Ziyad's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ziyad-parekh/Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistanSpecial thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
Nov 13, 2025 • 1h 28min
Khazanay Founder: Reimagining Landa Bazaar For Gen Z | 475 | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Usman Saleem, Co-Founder & CEO of Khazanay, Pakistan’s biggest used sneaker and thrift brand.Usman shares his journey from losing his father at an early age, working graphic design jobs for just ₨8,000 a month, to building one of Pakistan’s most disruptive retail startups.We talk about:How Khazanay sold its first pair of shoesMeeting Sam Altman at Y CombinatorHow they refurbish branded sneakersTapping into leftover clothing Khazanay’s scale & GrowthLong-term growth, Islamic finance, and Pakistan’s 2050 outlookSocials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Usman's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mhdusmansaleem/Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
Nov 10, 2025 • 2h 10min
Manto Founder: We’re Building Pakistan’s FIRST Mass Premium Fashion Brand!! | 474 | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Salman Parekh, Founder of Manto, Pakistan’s most distinct fashion brand redefining local identity through design, storytelling, and craftsmanship. From launching limited hand-drawn collections to sustaining a premium yet local brand in a low-growth economy.We explore:How Manto built its own supply chain & scaled sustainablyWhy Pakistani fashion is stuck in a cash cycleThe real cost of building exclusivity & identityWhy Manto avoids mass production to stay premiumWhat the fashion scene could look like by 2050Socials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Salman's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maansals/Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
Nov 3, 2025 • 1h 39min
Maha Shahzad: I Built a PROFITABLE Startup Without a DEGREE!! | 473 | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Maha Shahzad, the founder & CEO of Buscaro — Pakistan’s first tech-enabled bus-sharing startup that’s making everyday commuting safer, smarter, and more affordable for thousands of Pakistanis.From doing odd jobs to fund her education, to building a profitable transport startup without a degree, Maha’s story is pure resilience. She shares how her experiences at Careem, Foodpanda, and SWVL shaped her understanding of Pakistan’s mobility problems — and how a confusing global model inspired her to build something truly local.We Explore:How SWVL’s confusing model failed to connect with Pakistani commutersThe story behind Buscaro and how it was born during the downturnHow she raised her first investor cheque and built a profitable startupBuscaro’s 6.5 million-dollars annual revenue and 70-member teamHow the platform ensures safety for women & school childrenMaha also opens up about investor trust after 2022, navigating bias as a young female founder, and her long-term vision for Pakistan’s urban mobility.Socials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Maha's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maha-shahzad-88878b220/Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
Oct 31, 2025 • 1h 59min
Pakistan’s Entertainment Powerhouse: ARY's Journey to 66 Billion Views Ft. Jerjees Seja | 472 | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Jerjees Seja, CEO of ARY Digital Network, one of Pakistan’s most iconic media leaders. From shaping the country’s TV and drama landscape to building ARY into a powerhouse of entertainment, Jerjees shares his journey of transforming Pakistan’s media industry.We discuss:How Pakistan’s private TV revolution beganThe economics behind news, dramas, and entertainment ProductionWhy premium Pakistani content is now free on YouTubeWhy global giants like Netflix don’t invest in PakistanThe future of OTT and local streaming platformsWhy filmmaking still isn’t profitable hereThe evolving audience behavior and the road to 2050Socials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Jerjees's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerjeesseja/Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
Oct 29, 2025 • 1h 46min
Arif Lakhani: You Can Buy ANYTHING On Installments In Pakistan!! | 471 | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Arif Lakhani, Co-Founder of QistBazaar, Pakistan’s fastest-growing fintech platform making anything, from bikes to fridges, available on easy installments.We explore:How QistBazaar gives access to credit without traditional bankingWhy 90% of startup funding never enters Pakistan’s economyAre easy installments driving consumerism and debt?The rise of Pakistan’s emerging middle class and fintech revolutionIPO dreams, PSX’s broken perception, and what real innovation looks likeSocials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Arif's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariflakhaniSpecial thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
Oct 24, 2025 • 1h 59min
Myco Founder: 30M Registered Users Across the Globe!! | 470 | TBT
Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.orgIn this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Umair Masoom Usmani, the Founder of Myco, a rapidly growing OTT and creator-monetization platform redefining how people consume, fund, and earn from content across emerging markets.After leaving Dubai’s corporate comfort, Umair built one of Pakistan’s fastest-scaling digital ventures with 30M+ registered users, exclusive Premier League streaming rights, and operations across Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Egypt.We explore:Why Umair left “too-good-to-be-true” job in Dubai to start MycoHow the global media system is broken and what Myco is fixingThe $25 million raised in equity & debt fundingWhy creators don’t make money and how Myco plans to change thatThe future of sports, digital content, and monetization in PakistanSocials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Umair's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/umair-masoom-usmani-b12ab025/Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
Oct 22, 2025 • 2h 7min
Scents N Stories CEO: We Have 40+ OUTLETS Across PAKISTAN! | 469 | TBT
Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.orgIn this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Saad Afridi, the Founder & CEO of Scents N Stories, Pakistan’s leading fragrance brand with over 40 outlets, 300+ employees, and one of the top 5 players in the country’s perfume market.From starting with men’s grooming products to building a nationwide perfume empire, Saad shares the story of how Scents N Stories grew from a small e-commerce experiment into Pakistan’s most recognizable fragrance brand.We explore:Moving from beard grooming to online perfume salesBuilding 40+ outlets across Pakistan using e-commerce dataWhy Pakistan’s perfume market is more advanced than Indonesia & BangladeshLocal manufacturing vs import, and how they keep costs lowWhy luxury perfumes cost 30x more than theirsSocials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Saad's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/msaadafridi/Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
