
Future Proof
Future Proof is the marketing podcast from Said Business School, Oxford University, and Kantar, the world’s leading marketing data and analytics company. In each episode, we’ll have a frank discussion with an expert, to help brands and business leaders navigate the changing landscape of marketing… and hopefully dispel some myths and misconceptions along the way. Looking at big industry question through both a market research and an academic lens, we can help prepare marketers for the future (with proof). All episodes and more info at https://www.kantar.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Mar 1, 2020 • 25min
52. What’s not going to happen in marketing?
Things change in marketing all the time, and marketers get more excited with each new technological ‘innovation’. But we could be getting ahead of ourselves, says strategy consultant and Web Curios writer Matt Muir. If we are really honest with ourselves, what will NOT happen in 2020? What does he think we should strike from our list of predictions? What is missing from the list? And which words do we need to define better, or remove from our vocabulary entirely? Matt talks authentic influencers, alternative realities and generational tipping points with Andrew Stephen and Jane Ostler. Warning: Some colourful language in this episode. Not for the easily offended! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 16, 2020 • 28min
51. What’s next in media and marketing?
As Kantar releases its annual Media Predictions report, forecasting the likely changes for media in 2020 and beyond, Professor Andrew Stephen asks experts Jane Ostler and Margo Swadley to comment on some of the trends they are seeing. Touching on the business models of streaming services, the untapped potential of audio, why influencer marketing needs to grow up, and the rise and rise of esports, Jane and Margo discuss not only the changes in channels and usage, but their advice for brands and marketers looking to get better returns on their media investments. Download the Kantar report here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 2, 2020 • 24min
50. What’s changing media agencies in 2020?
Recently returned from CES in Vegas, Marco Rimini (Chief Development Officer at Mindshare) feels he has glimpsed the future – as well as a few things that probably won’t come to be. So what’s likely to change in the media world, and particularly the media agency, in the next year… or even decade? Marco tells Jane and Andrew about the rise of shoppable content and how it affects the traditional media plan, the inspiration we can get from China, the role of data and analytics in media planning, and the changing nature of agency-client relationships. He touches on some big ethical debates: where is the legislative framework for the use of AI? Will customers mind a more ‘predictive’ marketing approach? And what can media agencies do about climate change? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 19, 2020 • 27min
49. How do you transform marketing in a 500-year-old business?
You don't get much more traditional than Oxford University Press: over 500 years old, its roots dating back to 1478 when the first book was published in Oxford and home to the renowned Oxford English Dictionary. Today the Press has 6000 employees, operates in 190 countries and 40 languages, and offers a huge range of products and services, from pre-school educational materials to scholarly works. Sarah Ultsch, Director of Marketing at OUP, tells Andrew and Julie how the organisation is transforming, and how marketing operations in particular are evolving, in a radically changing market. How do they ensure they are still relevant and serving their community of educators and learners for the next 500 years? Sarah suggests that people and processes – the right skills, frameworks and culture – are the most important asset, but that applying the right technology, tools and data is key to servicing their changing customer. As people read less, are time poor, have higher expectations and consume more multimedia content, how can OUP serve up the right content (whether pedagogy, definition, article or chapter) at the right time on the user's preferred channel? And how can they organise themselves to ensure employees are engaged and coming up with great, scalable ideas? Like the University to which it belongs, OUP believes in the transformative power of education. So what are they learning as they bring marketing into the modern day? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 7, 2020 • 26min
48. Why does marketing need to be sustainable?
Too many marketers still believe that sustainability in marketing comes at the expense of cost-effectiveness – when, increasingly, adopting sustainable marketing can improve commercial performance. So says David Radford, former CMO of Allianz in the UK and Associate Fellow of Said Business School. David's contention is that marketing needs to get its house in order when it comes to sustainability. As our marketing output is one of the most visible aspects of a business, he says, and as consumer opinion shifts dramatically, it simply makes good business sense for marketers to prioritise a more sustainable approach – even if the wider organisation has yet to adopt a sustainable business strategy. So what does "sustainable marketing" look like? And what are the wider business and societal implications? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 20, 2019 • 23min
47. How can you make the most of chatbots?
There are more and more times when we find ourselves talking to what might seem like a person, but it’s actually a bot, often powered by AI. But what does the research say about the best way to use them? What can businesses do differently to improve their reputation, and get deeper customer insights? Professor Andrew Stephen, L’Oréal Professor of Marketing at Saïd Business School, takes us through some recent research his team has conducted around the impact of anthropomorphised (human-like) chatbots in customer service. Their assessment of thousands of real interactions, as well as some experimentation, has revealed that the more human a chatbot seems (even if the correspondent knows it is not human), the more we expect it to be effective. As he reveals, there are serious implications for brands in terms of how they deal with angry customers – not just in terms of resolving issues, but also related to longer-term brand preference and purchase intent. Julie Kollman, Chief Research Officer at Kantar, talks about some of the work we’ve been doing with chatbots in actually gathering insights. Replacing existing survey tools in the right occasions, chatbots have proven to be highly effective at getting us to deeper, richer insights – and probably more truthful responses. She explains some of the use cases, the cultural differences when it comes to willingness to engage with a research bot, and the way the technology is constantly advancing to provide ever better insights. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 9, 2019 • 30min
46. What makes marketers inspiring?
Michael Fanuele has written about the Six Skills of Inspiration in his new book, Stop Making Sense. In this episode, we speak to Michael in New York about why inspiration matters, what it can achieve, and how an individual – particularly a leader – can become more inspiring. As it turns out, it might mean turning our backs on rationality… We also touch on the role of planners, the role of agencies, his creative director role at General Mills and the balance big brands need to strike between outsourcing and in-housing, emotion and reason, and short-term and long-term goals. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 27, 2019 • 31min
45. How can you make the world a better place?
Daianna Karaian has always worked at the intersection of sustainability and business, helping brands make money while also making a difference in the world. Now she has set up Thought Starter & Thoughtful Works, to help businesses and individuals actually walk the talk. We speak to Daianna about the Thought Starter kit and its basis in Martin Luther King’s 'six steps of non-violent social change', and how people and organisations are using it to make a real difference. We discuss the best examples of companies who have used their core competency to turn a negative impact on the world into a positive one. And we talk about how brands can enable their employees to put the brand’s purpose into their everyday activities at work, so that lofty goals can actually be met. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 5, 2019 • 27min
44. How do you produce news in a digital world?
What’s involved in producing news? And what’s new about news in a more digital-focussed world? Inga Thordar, Executive Editor of International, CNN Digital Worldwide, tells Jane Ostler and Felipe Thomaz what an ‘average’ day looks like, how to find the right news stories for the right audiences, and how you can make news go viral… while still remaining trusted, non-partisan and distinctive. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 30, 2019 • 24min
43. How do you delight Indian banking customers?
What makes a bank successful? How do you attract and retain customers in the Indian banking market? And what role does technology play? S. Ramakrishnan, Head of Retail Banking & Wealth Management for HSBC in India, speaks to Andrew Stephen and Amy Cashman about creating a winning customer experience, the benefits of being a multinational business, the future growth opportunities and how they are partnering with fintechs to make improvements to their service in an agile way. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.