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Foreign Affairs Magazine
Foreign Affairs invites you to join its editor, Daniel Kurtz-Phelan, as he talks to influential thinkers and policymakers about the forces shaping the world. Whether the topic is the war in Ukraine, the United States’ competition with China, or the future of globalization, Foreign Affairs’ weekly podcast offers the kind of authoritative commentary and analysis that you can find in the magazine and on the website.
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Dec 18, 2025 • 58min
How Liberal Democracy Can Survive an Age of Spiraling Crises
Daron Acemoglu, a Nobel Prize-winning economist known for his insights on institutions and economic development, discusses the multifaceted crisis facing liberal democracy. He explores the limited economic impact of AI, emphasizing the need for thoughtful adoption to avoid a tech-driven divide. Acemoglu critiques U.S. strategies undermining innovation and highlights China’s mix of strengths and weaknesses in tech. He advocates for stronger local institutions and a working-class liberalism that prioritizes community and shared prosperity in rebuilding trust and navigating crises.

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Dec 11, 2025 • 43min
The Fear and Weakness at the Heart of Trump’s Strategy
Kori Schake, a senior fellow and defense policy expert, critiques Trump's National Security Strategy, calling it a mix of solipsism and fear. She highlights its failures in assessing global allies and rivals, accusing it of undermining U.S. power while focusing too much on cultural politics. Schake explains how the administration’s actions, like controversial military strikes, demonstrate a misunderstanding of American power dynamics. She warns that politicizing the military risks damaging public trust and professional norms.

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Dec 4, 2025 • 52min
America Can’t Escape the Multipolar Order
Emma Ashford, a foreign policy analyst and author, champions a restrained U.S. foreign policy as she explores the shift to a multipolar world. She critiques the Biden and Trump administrations' strategies, advocating for a nuanced understanding of international power dynamics. Ashford discusses the political risks surrounding U.S. withdrawal from conflicts, the complexities of supporting Ukraine, and the importance of promoting pragmatic engagement with adversaries. She emphasizes the need for realistic defense strategies and highlights upcoming geopolitical challenges.

43 snips
Nov 27, 2025 • 55min
The Limits of the American Way of AI
Ben Buchanan, a technology and national-security scholar who advised the White House on AI, shares insights on the shifting landscape of artificial intelligence amidst U.S.-China competition. He warns that America’s AI dominance is at risk without better coordination between the government and tech sectors. Buchanan discusses the importance of energy for large-scale AI, the implications of government policies on chip exports, and argues for a grand bargain to strengthen American AI while addressing national security concerns.

33 snips
Nov 20, 2025 • 34min
The Age-Old Contest Between Land and Sea
In this engaging discussion, S. C. M. Paine, a strategy expert from the U.S. Naval War College, delves into the age-old contest between maritime and continental powers. She explains how the U.S. has historically thrived as a maritime force but warns of a concerning shift in strategy. Paine contrasts the territorial focus of Russia and China with maritime trade's advantages, highlighting the risks of tariffs and protectionism. She underscores the importance of maintaining a rules-based maritime order and reflects on historical warnings to avert future conflicts.

53 snips
Nov 13, 2025 • 1h 7min
The Strength of Trump’s Foreign Policy
Robert O'Brien, former U.S. national security advisor, shares insights into Trump's foreign policy trajectory. He discusses the evolving stance on China, emphasizing a pragmatic approach with a focus on supply chains and a temporary pause in confrontation. O'Brien covers strategies in Venezuela to combat drug trafficking, Trump's proposed settlement for the Ukraine conflict, and the complex dynamics with India. He also examines how Trump's governance style has matured, advocating for national sovereignty and nonintervention while stressing the need for economic pressure on adversaries.

33 snips
Nov 6, 2025 • 57min
Xi Jinping’s World of Treachery and Sacrifice
Orville Schell, a veteran China scholar and author, shares insights on Xi Jinping's worldview and the complexities of U.S.-China relations. He discusses the recent Trump-Xi meeting, highlighting that while it provided a temporary pause in tensions, it didn't address deeper issues. Schell sheds light on Xi's insecurities and ideological roots, the significance of Taiwan, and how China's strategic moves could reshape global dynamics. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding China's historical context and the risks of military conflict, urging diplomacy for a stable future.

23 snips
Oct 30, 2025 • 58min
The Crack-Up of American Democracy
Mariano-Florentino Cuéllar, former justice on the California Supreme Court and president of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, delves into the expansive use of presidential power during Trump's second term. He discusses how recent lethal strikes raise constitutional questions and the risks of escalating military action. Cuéllar emphasizes the importance of courts, federalism, and independent media as checks on power. He warns against state partisanship, highlights the dangers facing the U.S. innovation ecosystem, and advocates for AI governance that balances safety and innovation.

36 snips
Oct 23, 2025 • 1h 5min
America’s Two-State Delusion
Rob Malley, a seasoned U.S. Middle East policy expert and commentator, joins the discussion to critique American diplomacy regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He argues the two-state solution is outdated and questions its actual support among Israelis and Palestinians. Malley reflects on past negotiations, critiques the Biden administration's Israel embrace, and discusses the fragile ceasefire in Gaza. He also explores realistic governance options for Gaza and the shifting dynamics in regional diplomacy, including potential normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

22 snips
Oct 15, 2025 • 58min
Will the War in Gaza Really End?
Shira Efron, a distinguished chair for Israel Policy at RAND, Khaled Elgindy, a Georgetown University scholar and former Palestinian negotiator, and Daniel Shapiro, former U.S. ambassador to Israel, engage in a riveting discussion about the cease-fire in Gaza. They explore the nuances of Trump’s influence on the cease-fire and the complexities surrounding Hamas' disarmament. The guests analyze regional pressures, the future of Israeli-Palestinian relations, and the ramifications of widespread destruction, emphasizing the urgent need for diplomacy in addressing ongoing traumas.


