
Truce - History of the Christian Church
Truce explores the history of the evangelical church in America, from fundamentalism to pyramid schemes to political campaigns. Host Chris Staron uses journalistic tools to investigate how the church got here and how it can do better.The current season follows the rise of the Religious Right, examining the link between evangelicals and the Republican Party. Featuring special guests like Rick Perlstein, Frances Fitzgerald, Jesse Eisinger, Daniel K. Williams, and more.
Latest episodes

Jul 9, 2024 • 36min
Republicans and Evangelicals I The New Deal
Partner with us by donating at: www.trucepodcast.com/donateSomething had to be done. The Great Depression meant the loss of a vast number of jobs and left families waiting on bread lines. Economists like John Meynard Keynes puzzled over what to do. President Hoover took a laissez-faire approach to the catastrophe, only to have matters get worse. Then Franklin D. Roosevelt came into office and his administration kicked The New Deal into gear. It was a program that offered diverse aid to citizens from protections for money in banks to homeowner assistance.Many Christian leaders came to hate the New Deal, especially libertarians. Their opposition to the New Deal as creeping socialism sparked the National Prayer Breakfast, some of Billy Graham's speeches, and the bonding of capitalism to Christianity and the US. So we should probably know what the New Deal was!Our guest on this episode is Justin Rosolino. He's a high school history teacher and the author of the book "Idiot Sojourning Soul".You can find pictures of Chris' 50-mile New Deal Bike Tour on the website at www.trucepodcast.com.Helpful Links:
FDR's Inauguration Speech on C-SPAN
Interesting YouTube video about the causes of the Great Depression
Topics Discussed:
What was the Social Gospel?
Who was Franklin Roosevelt?
What was the New Deal?
The Civilian Conservation Corp
The Works Progress Administration
Jenny Lake - Grand Teton National Park
Unemployment
Discussion Questions:
Why do some people dislike the New Deal?
Which of the programs most impacts you?
What do you think of the New Deal? Was it a form of socialism?
Do you think there will ever be another New Deal in the US?
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Jun 25, 2024 • 29min
Republicans and Evangelicals I End of School Prayer
Give to help Chris make the Truce PodcastIn 1955, the Board of Regents for New York issued an optional prayer to be used in public schools. It became known as the "Regent's Prayer". Here it is: "“Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence upon Thee, and we beg Thy blessings upon us, our parents, our teachers, and our Country.” That short prayer was contested not only by non-religious people but also by Protestants who thought that it was too vague. What God is it talking about? Where is the mention of Jesus or the Holy Spirit, salvation, sin, grace, etc.?With help from the ACLU, parents sued and the case made it all the way to the US Supreme Court. It was known as Engle v. Vitale. It overturned prescribed prayer in schools. In this episode, Chris goes through the arguments the court and Justice Hugo Black made during this landmark decision. A year later, the Court heard Abington School District v. Schempp, which ended prescribed Bible reading in public schools.This season we're covering how American evangelicals bonded themselves with the Republican Party. There are a lot of reasons that evangelicals started to vote as a block in the late 70s and early 1980s. They range from women's liberation, changes in attitude toward taxation, and battles over gay and lesbian rights, to education. This is part of our coverage of the education section. This episode has been rewritten and recorded, updating an episode from season 3.Sources:
"One Nation Under God" by Kevin Kruse
Transcript of Abington School District v Schempp
Census data about public and private schools
Transcript and audio of Engel v Vitale
Discussion Questions:
Did you ever pray in school? What did you pray?
Did you ever read the Bible in school?
Is there an "ideal" prayer that should be read in schools? If so, what is it? What objections might parents have?
Is it important for school children to learn about religions in school?
Do you agree or disagree with Justice Hugo Black?
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Jun 11, 2024 • 46min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Can I Love Extremists?
Give to support the Truce PodcastIt seems like so many people define their faith by what they believe about Donald Trump. How can godly Christians return to the gospel to get us back on track?In this round table discussion episode, Chris is joined by Pastor Ray McDaniel of First Baptist Church in Jackson, WY and Nick Staron to prepare us for the season.Topics Discussed:
What is Christianity?
The importance of forgiveness and going to those who are angry with us
Why it is important to cover things like the Watergate scandals of the 1970s in a Christian podcast
The need for humility in our lives
The gospel in 10 words or less
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May 28, 2024 • 38min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Long Southern Strategy (featuring Angie Maxwell)
Give a little to help support the Truce PodcastWhen did Republicans, the party of Abraham Lincoln, start courting the American South? It's a big question! For decades, Republicans were known as the party that helped black people (except, you know, for ending Reconstruction to help gain the White House). Then, with the nomination of Barry Goldwater, the tide turned. Goldwater's team promoted him as a racist when he toured the South. And... he won some ground in the traditionally Democratic region.So when it came time for Richard Nixon to run in 1968, his team decided to court the South. Not out in public like Goldwater had. Instead, they decided to operate a campaign of "benign neglect" where they would not enforce existing laws meant to protect African-Americans.Our special guest this week is Angie Maxwell, author of The Long Southern Strategy.Discussion Questions:
What caused the rift in the Democratic Party that made Strom Thurmond leave (hint: it has to do with Truman)?
What was the Democratic Party like before Truman?
What influence did Strom Thurmond have on Nixon?
Who was Barry Goldwater? How did he change the Republican Party by courting white Southerners?
How might the idea of the South being "benighted" impact them as a people?
Why do so many evangelicals see themselves as "benighted"?
Sources:
"The Long Southern Strategy" by Angie Maxwell and Todd Shields.
"Reaganland" by Rick Perlstein
YouTube clip of Nixon not wanting "Law and Order" to mean "racist"
Nixon talking about "law and order" in a speech
Nixon's campaign ad about protests and tear gas
Article about Nelson Rockefeller
Nixon's civil rights ad
Helpful Time Magazine article
"These Truths" book by Jill Lepore
Bio on Strom Thurmond
Article about Reconstruction
"The Evangelicals" book by Frances Fitzgerald
Truman's speech to the NAACP
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May 14, 2024 • 36min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Billy Graham and Nixon
Give to help make Truce!Billy Graham, the famous evangelist, was good friends with Richard Nixon. The two played golf and gave each other advice. Graham was the person who encouraged Nixon to run for president a second time. He also encouraged Nixon to regularly attend church, so Nixon started the first regular church service in the White House, only to make it another "it" place to be seen. But when Nixon's crimes were made public, Graham continued to support him, commenting only on the strong language used by the president.What does it mean for Christian leaders to stand behind a corrupt president? In this episode, Chris interviews David Bruce, a historian at the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.NOTE: I thought it was especially important to outline the many crimes of the Nixon administration. Today these crimes are downplayed by bad actors wishing to rewrite history. It is important to emphasize that not only were there immoral acts of shenanigans, there were real crimes perpetrated against individuals, organizations, and the American people.Sources
"The Surprising Work of God" by Garth M. Rosell
An article from The Atlantic about the Pope and Mussolini
"The Popes Against the Protestants" by Kevin Madigan
NPR interview with Kevin Madigan
"A Prophet With Honor" book by William Martin
"The Invisible Bridge" by Rick Perlstein
"The Evangelicals" by Frances Fitzgerald
"The Failure and the Hope: Essays of Southern Churchmen" book of essays accessed on Google Books
New York Times article about how the Watergate break-in was financed
Pat Buchanan hearings during the Watergate investigation
Frost/Nixon transcript
Discussion Questions:
Was Billy Graham being a good friend by supporting Nixon after Watergate?
Should religious leaders maintain a certain amount of distance between themselves and people of power?
Why do we like to see our governmental leaders as religious people?
Was Nixon's church service in the Whitehouse wrong to be a gathering place of the rich and famous?
How bad was the Watergate break-in? How does it change your mind about Nixon to know about the other criminal activity?
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Apr 30, 2024 • 32min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Harold Ockenga - Can Christians Unite? (featuring Joel Carpenter)
Give to help the Truce Podcast!Harold Ockenga was a famous fundamentalist(ish) pastor from Boston. And he had a problem. Liberal Christians had the ear of the government. That meant that military chaplain positions and free radio time were going to liberals, not conservatives. Why shouldn't conservatives have access to the radio waves like theologically liberal Christians? But that would take unity among evangelicals, or, what he called neo-evangelicals.Neo-evangelicals were evangelicals who didn't separate from the world. In Ockenga's case, this meant maybe going to the movies or an opera. So he, along with other preachers like Billy Graham, founded the National Association of Evangelicals with the hope of uniting neo-evangelicals under one banner.It didn't work.The real story, though, sometimes gets lost. The was a big boom in evangelism in the 1940s as WWII wrapped up. Evangelists targeted the youth with organizations like Campus Crusade for Christ springing up left and right. This boom meant that churches swelled in the 1950s, only to begin their long slide a few decades later.In this episode, Chris speaks with Joel Carpenter, a senior research fellow at Calvin College and author of "Revive Us Again".Resources Used:
"Revive Us Again" by Joel Carpenter
"The Evangelicals" by Frances Fitzgerald
"The Surprising Work of God" by Garth Rosell
"Reaganland" by Rick Perlstein
NPS article about the Bonus Army
“After the Ivory Tower Falls” book by Will Bunch
Billy Graham audio
National Association of Evangelicals "The New Treason"
Interviews from Harold Ockenga at Wheaton College
Discussion Questions:
What spurred the revivals of the 1940s?
How has youth evangelism shaped American society?
Why is it important to understand the role that cheap higher education played in shaping the 1960s?
Why did neo-evangelicals feel that they needed access to the radio waves?
Is unity important to the Christian walk?
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Apr 16, 2024 • 21min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Prologue: What Is Biblical?
Give to help the Truce PodcastThomas McIntyre stood before the US Congress to deliver a moving speech. The man was being hounded by a fringe movement known as the New Right. The movement came from the work of men like Paul Weyrich, Howard Phillips, and Richard Viguerie. Their goal was to disrupt the Republican Party. They wanted to do away with much of the federal government and program to help the poor while simultaneously cutting taxes and increasing the military. They hoped to accomplish this by controlling direct mail. Direct mail! It sounds silly, but by inundating voters and congressional offices with bulk mail they could control the story.Men like McIntyre and Senator Mark Hatfield didn't know what to do with this influx of petty politics. Someone had even gone so far as to question Hatfield's Christian salvation just because of how we was going to vote on the Panama Canal treaty. What does giving the Panama Canal back to Panama have to do with salvation? Almost nothing.Today, we're going to explore this wacky phenomenon where we call something "Christian" or "biblical" if it fits out politics not if it is addressed in the Bible. How are we being manipulated by propaganda like this? And what can we do about it?Discussion Questions:
Was the United States responsible in its claiming the Panama Canal as a territory?
Are there things in your life that you mix with Christianity?
How have your politics gotten confused with your faith?
Does the Bible have anything to say on the Panama Canal treaty?
Sources:
"Reaganland" book by Rick Perlstein
Handy article on the history of the Panama Canal
Congressional record including the speeches
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Mar 26, 2024 • 12min
Behind the Scenes Bonus
Give to help Chris make TruceIn this special bonus episode, Truce host Chris Staron walks you through a day in the life of a podcast host. He works about 11 hours per day between this show and his full-time job driving a school bus. Imagine what he could do if he were doing this show full-time!!!!Chris has worked on Truce for 6 1/2 years and is ready to make the show his main focus. We could make that happen if every listener gave $15 per year! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 19, 2024 • 2min
Season 6 Trailer
Give to help Chris make TruceSeason six is almost here! This season we're exploring the backstory of why so many evangelicals turned to the Republican Party in the 1970s and 80s. It's a huge story that involves murder, corruption, greed, taxes, school choice, racism, and a lot of big questions. Special guests include Rick Perlstein, Frances Fitzgerald, Marjorie Spruill, Jesse Eisinger, and so many more.Subscribe to Truce wherever you get your podcasts, or listen at trucepodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 21, 2023 • 3min
Advertising, New Cover Art, Season 6 Update
Give to help Chris keep Truce going!Season six is coming along nicely! I'm super busy trying to get it all put together before I start releasing episodes. But I want to also make everyone aware that I'm looking for more advertisers for the show. Want to participate? Visit www.trucepodcast.com/advertise to get started! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices