
Clear & Loud with Josh Harris
Welcome to Clear & Loud, a podcast about finding meaning on the other side of shifting beliefs. Hosted by Josh Harris, former pastor and bestselling author, each episode features intimate conversations with individuals who have navigated profound changes in their worldviews. Josh's own journey from rigid beliefs to embracing complexity brings empathy to each discussion. Together, Josh and his guests explore personal growth, authentic storytelling, and finding voice in a post-certainty world. Learn more at www.joshharris.com
Latest episodes

Jul 19, 2022 • 40min
Enneagram Insights for Better Leadership (with Vanessa Fernandez)
In this episode, executive coach and a triple-certified Enneagram teacher, Vanessa Fernandez, walks through all nine Enneagram types and explains how insights from this ancient personality typing tool can help anyone be better at leading others.
There’s often a gap between how we think we’re coming across and how our communication is actually being received. (For example you think you’re being helpful but other people feel you’re micromanaging and hovering). Vanessa explains how the Enneagram can help us narrow that gap and thus be a more effective leader.
Highlights from the interview:
What’s unique about the Enneagram compared to other tools
Whether there’s a danger that people use the Enneagram to justify bad habits
What the “Great Resignation” tells us about how views of work are shifting
How to reconcile the highly competitive world of business with a human-centered approach to nurturing your employees
How the Enneagram can help in hiring
Connect with Vanessa for corporate coaching and workshops:
Website: www.theenneagramworkshop.com
Instagram: @theenneagramworkshop

Jul 4, 2022 • 48min
The Poster Boy of Side Hustles (with Steve Benjamins)
Steve Benjamins doesn’t like the title entrepreneur, but since he was 13-years-old, he has been starting businesses, launching projects, and experimenting with various endeavors. In this interview, Steve talks about his journey from amateur counterfeiter to being the owner of multiple companies. His advice for people who want to start a side-hustle: follow your enthusiasm. If you’ve ever wanted to start something new, you’re going to find this conversation inspiring.
We talk about:
Why Steve quit TikTok after racking up millions of views
How his parents encouraged him to try new things as a kid
How he makes $750 a month from Spotify
A rapid-fire explanation of each of his business ventures
How Tesla uses his company's mapping tool
How Steve divides his time between different projects and manages his time
Why most business books are like romance novels
Learn More about Steve Benjamins:
https://www.itsingoodcompany.com/ is a site that lists all his different endeavors
Business Sites:
https://www.atlistmaps.com/
https://www.sitebuilderreport.com/
https://www.itsgiftology.com/
https://www.lovethehumanities.com/
Music:
https://stevebenjamins.com/
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/sitebuilderreport
TikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@in.good.company
https://www.tiktok.com/@stevebenjamins

Jun 23, 2022 • 32min
GenZ Explains Web3, NFTs, and DAOs to a Boomer (with Madison Adams)
Okay, so this episode’s title isn’t technically correct—I’m not part of the “Baby Boom” generation, I’m Gen X (born between 1965 - 1980). But boy did I feel like a Boomer as I interviewed two students aged 19 and 18 respectively, about blockchain, DAOs, and NFTs.
Regardless of your age, it’s tempting to be skeptical of new technology and new ideas. It can take effort to stay open and curious, but it’s worth the effort—especially when the next generation aspires to use technology to improve the world.
My guests are Madison Adams, age 19, and Oliver Yehlik 18. Madison is the Co-founder of the Dream DAO, which trains Gen Z to use web3 to change the world. Oliver is a student participant in the Dream DAO.
In this episode we talk about:
• What is blockchain technology?
• Why so many young adults are drawn to the promise of Web3
• How Covid shaped and is still shaping the culture of the web
• Why it’s important to imagine a Solar Punk future
Learn more:
Dream DAO: https://www.dreamdao.xyz/
Civics Unplugged: https://www.civicsunplugged.org/
Madison Adams on Twitter: https://twitter.com/_madison_adams

Jun 8, 2022 • 52min
Donald Miller’s Right-Hand Man is Spilling Secrets (with Tim Schurrer)
Tim Schurrer spent almost a decade of his career as the right-hand man of Donald Miller. He helped launch two brands—StoryBrand and Business Made Simple—and built a $16 million dollar company. Now Tim is sharing secrets…about what real success really is.
In this interview, we talk about the core message of his new book “The Secret Society of Success” and Tim's mission to help people escape the spotlight mindset. Tim challenges us to reevaluate our definition of success and learn a new, freer way to go about achieving it.
Interview highlights:
How Tim built a healthy culture on the StoryBrand staff
How Tim decided to give up a stable career to pursue the dream of writing a book
How Donald Miller responded when Tim told him he needed to move on from his role as COO
Connect with Tim:
Website - http://SecretSocietyBook.com
Instagram - https://instagram.com/timschurrer/
LinkedIn - http://linkedin.com/in/timschurrer/
Twitter - https://twitter.com/timschurrer
Order The Secret Society of Success from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3O8fWgO
Get the first two chapters for free at SecretSocietyFree.com

May 17, 2022 • 32min
This “Artistpreneur” is Disrupting the Music Industry with his Tech Startup (with Travis Atreo)
Travis Atreo is an LA-based recording artist, producer, and artist coach with over 270M streams on Spotify alone and over 70M views in Youtube. He’s the co-founder and CEO of Fanded.com, an equity crowdfunding platform for creatives. Fanded allows superfans to invest and share in the journey of a project with their favorite artist, authors, filmmakers, and more.
What's the big idea you'd most like to discuss on the podcast?
My story of being an independent artist for the past 16 yrs and how that’s led me to create a tech startup aimed at completely updating the music, entertainment and creative industry.
For more information visit:
Travis Atreo Instagram
Fanded Instagram

May 2, 2022 • 51min
The Good Entrepreneur (with Nick Kennedy)
Nick Kennedy believes that being successful in business isn't about conquering the world—it's about conquering yourself. He's an entrepreneur with over twenty years of experience building successful ventures. He started an airline that was acquired by Surf Air. He now coaches high-power executives to become fully integrated spouses, parents, and businesspeople. Nick’s new book is titled The Good Entrepreneur: An Insider’s Guide to Building a Principled Business and Powerful Personal Legacy.
For more information:
http://www.nickkennedycoaching.com/
https://www.instagram.com/n_ckkennedy/
https://twitter.com/n_ckkennedy
Sponsored by: Beanfields

Apr 19, 2022 • 32min
Deconstructing Diet Culture (with Erin Power)
Erin Power is not your typical health coach. She thinks the bathroom scale is too often a tool of ignorance. She has been known to assign her clients taco nights. She’s a Registered Holistic Nutritionist and board-certified health coach but after 30-years in the health, fitness, and nutrition world she’s convinced we’ve gotten things wrong. Now she helps people fix their metabolism, deprogram themselves from diet culture, and achieve an effortless relationship with food.
Learn more at: www.eatsimple.ca
Follow Erin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eat.simple.erin/
Sponsored by: www.clearandloud.com

Apr 5, 2022 • 44min
Everyone and Their Mother Has an App Idea (with Logan Fields)
Have an idea for an app? Should you develop it? Logan Fields makes his living building apps and his answer is no—unless you’re good at one essential thing. In this interview, we talk about how to decide whether an app will benefit your company, how web3 is like a cult, lessons from the Wordle craze, and how to decide between a web-based app and mobile.
Logan Fields is the founder of The App Guys and has developed software for clients like NASA, the president of Nike Air Jordan, Thank You LLC, and others. His latest passion project is The Countdown App which helps users to make every day count because time is limited.
Learn more at www.loganfields.com and www.theAppGuys.com
Sponsored by: www.clearandloud.com

Mar 1, 2022 • 3min
Trailer: Clear & Loud with Josh Harris
A clear message shared courageously can change the world. Josh Harris hosts a show about the ideas, stories, and voices that are disrupting business, culture, religion, and sexuality.