This vs. That

On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the complex relationship between neglecting and embracing emotions with Joe Hussung, Director of Ministry Partnership and Senior Counselor atFieldstone Counseling. Our conversation examines the role of emotions in the Christian life, cultural differences in emotional expression, and how the Bible speaks to our emotional experiences.Joe brings unique insights from his doctoral work on empathy, his personal journey with anxiety, and his extensive counseling experience. We discuss how different cultural backgrounds, including religious traditions, shape our emotional responses. Through examining Biblical examples, particularly the Psalms, we explore how Scripture provides guidance for understanding and expressing our emotions in healthy ways.The conversation also addresses practical challenges like managing emotions in our busy modern lives and finding ways to stay emotionally present while navigating demanding schedules. Joe's upcoming bookLearning to Listen: Essential Skills for Every Counselor releases March 24th.---We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.---- Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana.This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith.Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at⁠⁠⁠anchoredvirtual.com/tgc

On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the fascinating topic of good stress versus bad stress with our guest Eliza Huie, Director of Counseling at McLean Bible Church and biblical counseling instructor at Reform Theological Seminary. We discuss how certain types of stress can actually be beneficial for growth and motivation, while other forms can be detrimental to our wellbeing. Drawing from her expertise as a licensed professional counselor and author of "I'm Stressed: A Path from Pressure to Peace," we examine the differences between "eustress" (good stress) and "distress" (bad stress). We also explore how stress can strengthen us physically, mentally, and spiritually, while uncovering practical ways to manage and understand the role of stress in our daily lives. Resources Mentioned: Trauma Aware: A Christian’s Guide to Providing Help and Care by Eliza Huie I’m Stressed: A Path from Pressure to Peace by Eliza Huie Knowing God by Jerry Bridges Why Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers by Robert M. Sapolsky Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers by Dane Ortlund The Knowledge of the Holy by A.W. Tozer --- We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide. In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways. To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts. ----  Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana. This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith. Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at ⁠⁠anchoredvirtual.com/tgc

On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Robert Cheong, founder of Gospel Care Ministries and former pastor of care at Sojourn Church Midtown. We explore the critical distinction between normal ministry tiredness and burnout, discussing how we can recognize the signs when regular exhaustion begins shifting toward burnout. Drawing from his extensive pastoral experience, Robert shares valuable insights on maintaining healthy rhythms in ministry and understanding the challenges faced by church leaders today. Whether you're in vocational ministry, serving in your local church, or simply want to support those in ministry, this conversation offers practical wisdom for navigating the complexities of spiritual leadership while maintaining personal well-being. Resources Mentioned Gospel Care Ministries Restoration Story: Why Jesus Matters in a Broken World – Robert Cheong Restore: Changing How We Live and Love – Robert Cheong God Redeeming His Bride: A Handbook for Church Discipline – Robert Cheong Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers – Dane Ortlund You’re Only Human: How Your Limits Reflect God’s Design and Why That’s Good News – Kelly Kapic The Imperfect Pastor: Discovering Joy in Our Limitations through a Daily Apprenticeship with Jesus – Zack Eswine The Unwavering Pastor: Leading the Church with Grace in Divisive Times – Jonathan Dodson A Praying Life: Connecting with God in a Distracting World – Paul E. Miller Abide in Christ – Andrew Murray The Night Is Normal: A Guide Through Spiritual Pain – Alicia Britt Chole ----  Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana. This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith. Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at ⁠⁠anchoredvirtual.com/tgc

On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Toni Collier, founder of Broken Crayons Still Color. We explore the powerful contrast between hiding vs. healing, as Toni shares her journey from a challenging childhood to becoming an author and speaker. We discuss what it truly means to heal, the importance of being honest with our pain, and how we can find hope and security in Christ even when life falls apart. With raw authenticity, Toni helps us understand that healing isn't about erasing our pain, but rather increasing our capacity to hold it while walking in faith. Books Mentioned Brave Enough to be Broken by Toni Collier Boundaries for Your Soul by Dr. Alison Cook --- ⁠ Anchored Virtual⁠ provides practical help to those hurting, by anchoring their hope in Jesus, and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained, and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠anchoredvirtual.com⁠ and schedule an appointment today. --- We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide. In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways. The first episode drops February 1st. I hope you'll join us. ----  Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana. This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith. Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at ⁠anchoredvirtual.com/tgc

On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the fascinating tension between fear of man and fear of God with special guest Ed Welch and guest co-host Jonathan Holmes, Executive Director of Fieldstone Counseling. We trace Ed's journey of writing his influential book "When People Are Big and God Is Small," which began as a response to the codependency movement of the 1980s. Through our conversation, we discover how Ed's perspective shifted from a sharp critique of cultural trends to a more pastoral approach as he began seeing these themes everywhere in Scripture. We discuss the evolution from codependency to today's independent mindset, and explore how the fear of God isn't about being afraid, but rather about awe and reverence that draws us closer to Him. Through personal stories and biblical wisdom, we unpack what it means to love Jesus more than we love the approval of others. ---  Anchored Virtual provides practical help to those hurting, by anchoring their hope in Jesus, and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained, and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredvirtual.com and schedule an appointment today. --- We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide. In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways. The first episode drops February 1st. I hope you'll join us. ----  Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana. This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith. Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at anchoredvirtual.com/tgc

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Ginny Owens, a talented singer-songwriter, author, and Director of Worship Arts and Community Engagement in New York City. We explore the intriguing topic of Seeing vs. Believing through the unique perspective of Ginny, who lost her eyesight at the age of three. We discuss how Ginny's experience of blindness has shaped her faith journey and her understanding of trust and belief. We examine the prevalence of sight and blindness imagery in Scripture and consider its significance in our spiritual lives. Throughout our conversation, we reflect on the challenges of self-reliance, the importance of weakness in our faith, and how suffering can open us up to deeper connections with God. Join us for this thought-provoking discussion that challenges our perceptions and encourages us to see beyond the physical realm, embracing a faith that doesn't require sight to believe. ----- This vs. That is a podcast of ⁠⁠Anchored Hope⁠⁠. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠anchoredhope.co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

On this episode of This vs. That, we have a captivating conversation with Jonathan Holmes, the Executive Director of Fieldstone Counseling and a visiting professor at CCEF and Westminster Theological Seminary. We discuss the topic of modern identity versus gospel identity, a central theme in his upcoming book, Grounded in Grace, which helps kids build their identity in Christ. We explore the distinction between an identity shaped by self-perception versus one defined by God's words. We talk about the significance of this distinction and why the person and work of Christ are central to how we see ourselves. Join us for this insightful discussion that addresses the challenges of identity in today's culture and offers valuable perspectives for parents, youth workers, and individuals seeking a stable, secure identity in Christ. ----- This vs. That is a podcast of ⁠Anchored Hope⁠. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠anchoredhope.co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome our good friend Jeff Dalrymple, founder and executive director of the Evangelical Council for Abuse Prevention and Lumino Global, as well as chairman of Anchored Hope's board of directors. Jeff joins us to discuss the topic of stewardship versus complacency. We explore what it means to be a faithful steward of God's gifts in every area of life and how to identify and uproot complacency. Jeff shares his insights on stewardship, drawing from his extensive experience in leadership and coaching. We also talk about the challenges of balancing responsibilities, understanding personal capacity, and maintaining faithfulness in all aspects of life. This conversation is both enriching and enlightening for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of stewardship. Resources Mentioned: Every Good Endeavor by Tim Keller The Gospel at Work by Sebastian Traeger and Greg Gilbert Redeeming Your Time by Jordan Raynor First Things First by Stephen Covey ----- This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠anchoredhope.co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Rush Witt, the lead pastor of Paramount Church in Bexley, Ohio, and author of "I Want to Escape" and "Die Hard Sins: How to Fight Wisely Against Destructive Daily Habits." Rush joins us to discuss themes from his book, specifically distinguishing destructive habits from everyday sins and how we can combat these issues in our lives. We explore how to understand the operation of these sins and the importance of ongoing repentance. Through personal anecdotes and insightful conversation, we aim to provide a deeper understanding of how to address and overcome habitual sins and destructive behaviors. ---- This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠anchoredhope.co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the topic of church hurt and discuss when to stay versus when to go. We talk with author and Bible teacher Courtney Reissig about the different perspectives of church hurt—from being a witness in the pews, to causing hurt as a leader, to being the one who is hurt. Courtney shares her personal experiences and insights from nearly 20 years in ministry, highlighting the complexities and spectrum of church hurt. We also discuss the importance of understanding expectations, the role of transparency, and the signs of an unhealthy church. Join us for an honest conversation that aims to shed light on an issue many have faced but few openly discuss. Resources Mentioned: Church Called Tove by Scott McKnight When Narcissism Comes to Church by Chuck DeGroat Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church by Diane Langberg Strong and Weak by Andy Crouch The Bruised Reed by Richard Sibbes The Letters of John Newton by John Newton The Book of Proverbs with commentary by Charles Bridges Bully Pulpit by Michael J. Kruger Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund _____ This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠anchoredhope.co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and schedule an appointment today.