
This vs. That
A podcast where we have conversations that explore what we think and why we think it.
Latest episodes

Aug 21, 2024 • 45min
Seeing vs. Believing - Ginny Owens
On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Ginny Owens, a talented singer-songwriter, author, and Director of Worship Arts and Community Engagement in New York City. We explore the intriguing topic of Seeing vs. Believing through the unique perspective of Ginny, who lost her eyesight at the age of three.
We discuss how Ginny's experience of blindness has shaped her faith journey and her understanding of trust and belief. We examine the prevalence of sight and blindness imagery in Scripture and consider its significance in our spiritual lives. Throughout our conversation, we reflect on the challenges of self-reliance, the importance of weakness in our faith, and how suffering can open us up to deeper connections with God.
Join us for this thought-provoking discussion that challenges our perceptions and encourages us to see beyond the physical realm, embracing a faith that doesn't require sight to believe.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Aug 14, 2024 • 46min
Modern Identity vs. Gospel Identity - Jonathan Holmes
On this episode of This vs. That, we have a captivating conversation with Jonathan Holmes, the Executive Director of Fieldstone Counseling and a visiting professor at CCEF and Westminster Theological Seminary.
We discuss the topic of modern identity versus gospel identity, a central theme in his upcoming book, Grounded in Grace, which helps kids build their identity in Christ. We explore the distinction between an identity shaped by self-perception versus one defined by God's words. We talk about the significance of this distinction and why the person and work of Christ are central to how we see ourselves.
Join us for this insightful discussion that addresses the challenges of identity in today's culture and offers valuable perspectives for parents, youth workers, and individuals seeking a stable, secure identity in Christ.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Aug 7, 2024 • 49min
Stewardship vs. Complacency - Jeff Dalrymple
On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome our good friend Jeff Dalrymple, founder and executive director of the Evangelical Council for Abuse Prevention and Lumino Global, as well as chairman of Anchored Hope's board of directors. Jeff joins us to discuss the topic of stewardship versus complacency. We explore what it means to be a faithful steward of God's gifts in every area of life and how to identify and uproot complacency. Jeff shares his insights on stewardship, drawing from his extensive experience in leadership and coaching. We also talk about the challenges of balancing responsibilities, understanding personal capacity, and maintaining faithfulness in all aspects of life. This conversation is both enriching and enlightening for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of stewardship.
Resources Mentioned:
Every Good Endeavor by Tim Keller
The Gospel at Work by Sebastian Traeger and Greg Gilbert
Redeeming Your Time by Jordan Raynor
First Things First by Stephen Covey
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jul 31, 2024 • 57min
Destructive Habits vs. Everyday Sins - Rush Witt
On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Rush Witt, the lead pastor of Paramount Church in Bexley, Ohio, and author of "I Want to Escape" and "Die Hard Sins: How to Fight Wisely Against Destructive Daily Habits."
Rush joins us to discuss themes from his book, specifically distinguishing destructive habits from everyday sins and how we can combat these issues in our lives. We explore how to understand the operation of these sins and the importance of ongoing repentance.
Through personal anecdotes and insightful conversation, we aim to provide a deeper understanding of how to address and overcome habitual sins and destructive behaviors.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jul 24, 2024 • 56min
Church Hurt: When to Stay vs. When to Go - Courtney Reissig
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the topic of church hurt and discuss when to stay versus when to go.
We talk with author and Bible teacher Courtney Reissig about the different perspectives of church hurt—from being a witness in the pews, to causing hurt as a leader, to being the one who is hurt. Courtney shares her personal experiences and insights from nearly 20 years in ministry, highlighting the complexities and spectrum of church hurt.
We also discuss the importance of understanding expectations, the role of transparency, and the signs of an unhealthy church. Join us for an honest conversation that aims to shed light on an issue many have faced but few openly discuss.
Resources Mentioned:
Church Called Tove by Scott McKnight
When Narcissism Comes to Church by Chuck DeGroat
Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church by Diane Langberg
Strong and Weak by Andy Crouch
The Bruised Reed by Richard Sibbes
The Letters of John Newton by John Newton
The Book of Proverbs with commentary by Charles Bridges
Bully Pulpit by Michael J. Kruger
Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jul 17, 2024 • 53min
Disillusionment vs. Reality - Alicia Britt Chole
On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Alicia Britt Chole, a wife, mother, mentor, and author, known for her unique and refreshing style that connects with people of all ages. We discuss her newest book, "The Night is Normal," and explore the concepts of disillusionment versus reality.
Alicia shares her personal story, including how her father's view of questions as sacred shaped her upbringing, and her journey from atheism to faith. We dive into the painful but necessary process of shedding illusions to gain a deeper understanding of reality and how this impacts our spiritual growth.
Join us for a conversation that promises to offer valuable insights and a fresh perspective on navigating the complexities of faith and disillusionment.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jul 10, 2024 • 57min
Tribal Leadership vs. Multi-Directional Leadership - Trevin Wax
On this episode of This vs. That, we have an engaging conversation with Trevin Wax.
Trevin joins us to discuss the nuances between tribal leadership and multi-directional leadership. We explore the differences between leaders who align strictly with a particular group versus those who address challenges from multiple perspectives.
Trevin shares insights on why multi-directional leadership is essential for the health of families, churches, and institutions. We also dive into Trevin’s background, his ministry work, and the inspiration behind his book, "The Multi-Directional Leader."
Join us for a vital conversation about the complexities of leadership in our cultural moment.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jul 3, 2024 • 53min
Spiritual Disciplines vs. Religious Scrupulosity - Mike Emlet
Dr. Mike Emlet discusses spiritual disciplines vs. religious scrupulosity, emphasizing the importance of understanding our union with Christ. They explore breaking negative self-talk, embracing joy in spiritual practices, and navigating diverse spiritual needs in church communities. The chapter also addresses struggles with OCD and emphasizes seeking counseling and understanding spiritual warfare.

Jun 26, 2024 • 58min
Contentment vs. Satisfaction - Joby Martin
On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Pastor Joby Martin, lead pastor at The Church of Eleven22 in Jacksonville, Florida. Joby shares his journey into ministry, his passion for evangelism, and his drive to reach every tribe, tongue, and nation with the Gospel.
In our conversation, we tackle the complex topic of Contentment vs. Satisfaction, exploring what these terms truly mean in a Biblical context. We also examine the role of ambition in the life of a believer and how to balance our human drive for more with a deep, abiding contentment in Christ. This episode promises to challenge, inspire, and encourage you in your walk with Jesus.
Resources Mentioned:
If the Tomb is Empty by Joby Martin
Anything is Possible by Joby Martin
Desiring God by John Piper
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jun 19, 2024 • 53min
Exhaustion vs. Perseverance - Abbey Wedgeworth
On this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Abbey Wedgeworth about exhaustion vs. perseverance. Abbey shares her experiences as a mother of three young boys and a devoted member of her local church. We explore the balance of managing various commitments, how parenting pushes us to our limits, and how that can actually bring us closer to God. Abbey shares her insights into how we can find strength and perseverance in Christ, even when we feel overwhelmed. Tune in as we offer encouragement and practical advice for parents in all stages of life.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.
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