
That Tech Pod
Welcome to That Tech Pod, a podcast co-hosted by Laura Milstein, Gabi Schulte and Kevin Albert. Each Tuesday, That Tech Pod will feature in depth discussions about data privacy, cybersecurity, eDiscovery, and tech innovations with heavy hitters in the industry. Subscribe so you don't miss an episode! Visit thattechpod.com for more information.
Latest episodes

May 30, 2023 • 41min
From Former Zillow Execs: The Tech Behind Getting a 2nd Home With David Willbrand
Former Zillow Execs, Austin Allison and Spencer Roscoff, have started a new venture, Pacaso, a fractional real estate investing site. David Willbrand joins Laura and Kevin to explain what that is and we discuss if its time for ThatTechPod to buy a baller home somewhere. David Willbrand is the Chief Legal Officer of Pacaso. Before joining Pacaso as its Chief Legal Officer, David founded, grew and chaired one of the most prominent startup and venture capital legal practices in the Midwest. He’s the author of “Seed Deals: How to Grow from Startup to Venture Capital,” and he’s a Professor of Law at the University of Michigan, where he teaches an introductory course on Startups & Venture Capital, as well as an advanced course on Mergers & Acquisitions. He loves philosophy, red wine and a good pair of Jordans.

May 23, 2023 • 46min
Legal AI: Hype vs Reality with Mollie Nichols
The artificial intelligence hype is getting out of hand so today Laura and Kevin speak with Mollie Nichols of Redgrave Data to breakdown what is real and what is just noise. As the CEO of Redgrave Strategic Data Solutions LLC (“Redgrave Data”), Mollie is a mission-driven, collaborative, and visionary leader of the organization guiding a team of business process, technology, and data professionals to produce data driven solutions that efficiently manage and analyze litigation, compliance, and deal data. She drives the strategic relationships with Redgrave LLP, clients, and service providers, and oversees the development of the team’s approach to the search and analysis of client data in matters using advanced technologies, including machine learning, data visualization, and advanced analytics. Mollie’s extensive background and knowledge in the information law field, which includes more than 35 years of experience as a litigator, law professor, and in law firm management. Prior to joining Redgrave Data, Mollie served as the Head of Advanced Client Data Solutions at Hogan Lovells, where she was responsible for developing the global business model for client data technology services. Before Hogan, Mollie built an eDiscovery program at Goodwin Procter and was a partner at Redgrave LLP. Mollie has tried more than 25 cases as lead counsel during her career. She was formerly an Assistant U.S. Attorney in Texas, a Special Assistant Attorney General for the State of Texas, and worked in private practice as a litigator.

May 16, 2023 • 39min
Harnessing Cutting-edge Voice Technology for Multilingual Audio Review with Nigel Cannings
Today Laura and Kevin speak with Nigel Cannings on all things voice tech related. We learn that Twitter trending is Nigel's fault. We also discuss the only 4 things people use their Alexa's for, plus smart transcripts and more!Nigel Cannings is founder and CTO at Intelligent Voice. Nigel has over 25 years' experience in both Law and Technology. He is a pioneer in all things voice, holding over a dozen patents in the field, including patents for NLP and SmartTranscript.Nigel’s work in NLP started in 2008 when he wrote the first Twitter trending tool (before Twitter). His interest in language lead him to look at all forms of communication, and he started Intelligent Voice to look at audio and video as well as email and text. Mainly due to a misunderstanding about what the art if the possible might be he released first commercially available GPU accelerated speech recognition algorithm in 2014. In part this lead to him winning the NVIDIA Emerging Companies Innovation Award on behalf of the company in 2016.In the same year he started pioneering work on the use of CNNs of spectrograms in speech recognition: Today, AI processing of spectrograms is seen as the best way of processing audio to text. Nigel has also been recipient of multiple UK government and EU grants, which included £2.2m Innovate UK Grant for Emotional AI and NLP.

May 11, 2023 • 42min
CLOC Global Institute Conference Preview with IPRO's Jeffrey Wolff and Sebastian Sutherland
Today Laura and Kevin speak with Jeffrey Wolff and Sebastian Sutherland about CLOC Global Institute. We also address a negative email we received about IPRO. Jeffrey Wolff, CEDS serves as Director of Corporate Solutions at IPRO. He is responsible for product direction and marketing strategy for IPRO’s corporate solutions market. Mr. Wolff brought with him over 25 years of experience in information systems and enterprise software solutions before joining IPRO in 2015. Sebastian Sutherland has extensive experience in sales leadership and business development in the legal technology industry. He is currently the VP of Sales at IPRO, where he is responsible for helping clients improve their compliance, investigations, and litigation processes through technology and modern workflows. Sebastian has helped clients simplify and automate complex legal tasks, where he helped corporate clients gain visibility into the data that govern their businesses. The Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC) is a global community of experts focused on redefining the business of law. CLOC Global Institute is a leading event in Las Vegas May 15-My 18th. It brings together the entire legal ecosystem to focus on legal innovation and transformation.

May 9, 2023 • 29min
Is the Corporate Grind the TRUE Gateway Drug? How These NextGen Tech Entrepreneurs Created Uber Eats for Cannabis with Vanessa Gabriel
Today Gabi and Laura speak with Vanessa Gabriel about the Uber Eats for Cannabis, Drop Delivery. Vanessa is the CEO and co-founder of Drop Delivery, the cannabis industry’s only all-in-one delivery technology solution for delivery companies and retailers. A thirty-year-old, self-described serial entrepreneur, Vanessa previously co-founded Greenlight Technologies, a leading order-ahead and digital loyalty software in the cannabis industry, which was acquired in 2018. She’s been recognized by Forbes Next 1000, Marijuana Venture 40 under 40, and is a part of the Rolling Stone Culture Council.

May 2, 2023 • 38min
How Denmark’s Welfare State Created a Surveillance Nightmare with Patrick Hynds and Duane Laflotte
Today Laura and Kevin talk with Pulsar Security's Patrick Hynds and Duane Laflotte about how Denmark’s welfare state created a surveillance nightmare. They also get into data breaches, defensive computing, cybersecurity and movie classics such as Sneakers, Hackers, WarGames and Groundhog Day. Patrick Hynds is the CEO and Founder of DTS and Pulsar Security. He is a recognized technology leader with expertise in Microsoft technologies, software development, network architecture, and enterprise security. Patrick has spent two decades as a Microsoft Regional Director, frequently speaking at technical events throughout the world, and is a graduate of West Point and a decorated Gulf War veteran.Duane Laflotte is Chief Technology Officer of Pulsar Security. He works to resolve complex technical issues for the team and its partners. Duane is an expert technologist in the areas of cryptography, exploit development, networking, programming, and enterprise data storage.

Apr 25, 2023 • 37min
How to Upload Your Consciousness with Personal.ai's CEO Suman Kanuganti
Today Laura and Kevin talk to Suman Kanuganti about uploading your consciousness to the cloud with Personal.ai.Suman is a two-time venture-backed entrepreneur, AI enthusiast, and accessibility champion awarded Forbes 40 Under 40 and Smithsonian’s “Top Innovator to Watch” awards. He is the Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer at Personal.ai which is focused on empowering every individual to own their intelligence and be their own thought leader with an AI extension of their memory.

Apr 18, 2023 • 44min
The Birth of the Internet, Secret PIPs, RIFs, Gartner Magic Quadrants and More in a Freewheeling Conversation with Malcolm Hawker
In today's episode, Laura and Kevin cover the birth of the Internet, Secret PIPs, RIFs, Gartner Magic Quadrants and More in a Freewheeling Conversation with Malcolm Hawker. We even get into the heyday of the Washington Wizards and the craziness of Florida.Malcolm Hawker, the Head of Data Strategy of Profisee, is a thought leader in the field of Master Data Management (MDM) and Data Governance. He is a frequent public speaker on data and analytics best practices. As the Head of Data Strategy for Profisee, his mission is to raise the awareness of the value of MDM and Data Governance to senior leaders at companies across the globe. MDM and Data Governance remain a significant challenge to most companies, but through the application of practical and outcome-driven data management best practices, his goal is to empower companies with the confidence and knowledge needed to become truly data-driven.

Apr 11, 2023 • 33min
Cybersecurity to ChatGPT: How to Truly Manage Security With CEO of SafeStack Laura Bell Mail
Today Laura and Kevin speak to Laura Bell Main, CEO of SafeStack about cybersecurity, threat modeling, and ChatGPT while also trying to determine who is the best Laura Laura Bell Main is the co-founder and CEO of SafeStack, an online education platform offering flexible, high-quality, and people-focused secure development training for fast-moving companies, with a focus on building security skills, practices, and culture across the entire engineering team. With over twenty years of experience in software development and information security, Laura Bell Main specializes in bringing security into organizations of every shape and size. Laura is an experienced conference speaker, trainer, and regular panel member, and has spoken at a range of events such as BlackHat USA, Velocity, and OSCON on the subjects of privacy, covert communications, agile security, and security mindset. She is also the co-author of Agile Application Security and Security for Everyone.

Apr 7, 2023 • 20min
What's the Dealio Consilio? With VP of Global Marketing Omid Jahanbin
Today Laura and Kevin talk with Consilio’s VP of Global Marketing Omid Jahanbin.Omid Jahanbin is Consilio’s Vice President of Global Marketing and Product Experience. At Consilio, Omid is responsible for developing and growing the company’s brand story, differentiated value proposition, solution architecture and global marketing strategy, helping the company grow from a 100-person litigation consulting practice into the global leader in eDiscovery and legal technology solutions with over 5,000+ employees worldwide. Additionally, Omid’s product design and marketing insight has helped shape the eDiscovery landscape, evolving Consilio’s Sightline eDiscovery platform from a concept into an award-winning solution.