

From Crisis to Connection - with Geoff & Jody Steurer
Geoff & Jody Steurer
The goal of healing isn't just stopping the crisis. It's ultimately moving into genuine and meaningful connection with ourselves, each other, and the world around us. Join licensed therapist and author Geoff Steurer and his wife, Jody Steurer, as they share ways to move out of the crisis of sexual betrayal and relationship betrayal trauma toward connection. The information in these discussions transcends religious and cultural lines, as we all seek the same healing power of connection.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Oct 2, 2025 • 34min
The Truth Behind Overreacting in Betrayal Trauma Recovery
If you’re the betrayed partner, you know what it’s like to be hit with waves of emotion that feel impossible to control. One moment you’re holding it together, and the next you’re flooded with anger, grief, or fear. You may even wonder if you’re too much—or if you’re going crazy for reacting so strongly.
And if you’re the recovering partner, you know how unsettling it is to face these storms. You want predictability, calm, and a path forward, but instead you feel powerless and defensive. Both of you are left asking: Why does this keep happening, and what are we supposed to do with it?
In this episode of From Crisis to Connection, Geoff and Jody pull apart this cycle so you can finally understand what’s really happening underneath these reactions. They explore:
Why betrayed partners’ strong emotions are survival responses, not “overreactions”
How shame fuels defensiveness and blame for the recovering partner
Why this dynamic often gets mislabeled as a “marriage problem” instead of a betrayal issue
The different responsibilities of each partner in recovery—and why they’re not the same
How couples can begin to work with these emotions instead of against them
The key message: You’re not crazy—you’ve been through something crazy. These strong emotions are a normal, human response to relational trauma. And when both partners can understand and lean into this truth, healing and connection can begin.
______________________________
Download the Free Resource: You, Me, Us - A Way Forward After Betrayal
When betrayal has shaken your relationship, it can feel impossible to know where to begin. This free 15-minute video and companion worksheet will help you steady yourself, support your partner, and begin caring for the relationship between you. Get your copy here.
______________________________
Join the Courageous Together™ Program
Courageous Together™ isn’t just another course, it’s a trauma-informed roadmap that holds both of you in the healing process. If you’ve ever wondered “Where do we even start?” After betrayal, this program gives you the clarity and structure you need. It meets the betrayed partner’s need for safety while guiding the recovering partner toward real accountability, creating a path forward that neither of you has to figure out on your own.
Healing from betrayal is overwhelming in isolation, which is why Courageous Together™ brings you expert guidance, practical tools, and a supportive community of couples walking the same road. Inside, you’ll find a step-by-step framework, live support opportunities, and the reassurance that you’re not alone as you rebuild safety, restore trust, and move toward genuine connection.
You’ll have access to:
A structured healing framework with step-by-step guidance
Video lessons and worksheets to build safety, accountability, and connection
The option to join live group circles and support calls with me
A private, secure community of others walking the same path
Learn more and join us inside Courageous Together: www.geoffsteurer.com/courageous-together
______________________________
Stay Connected
Website
YouTube
Instagram
Facebook
If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might need it. And don’t forget to leave a review! We’d love to hear how this podcast is supporting your healing journey.
______________________________
Watch on YouTube
Prefer video? You can watch full episodes of From Crisis to Connection on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@FromCrisistoConnectionPocast.
______________________________About Geoff Steurer
I am a licensed marriage and family therapist and Certified Clinical Partner Specialist (CCPS) with 25+ years of experience helping individuals and couples heal from the devastation of sexual betrayal and broken trust. I am the founder of the Courageous Together program, co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, and co-author of Love You, Hate the Porn. My work integrates trauma-informed care, attachment theory, and practical tools for creating lasting safety and connection. I’ve been married to my wife, Jody, since 1996 and we are the parents of four children.
About Jody SteurerJody is the co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, where she brings her thoughtful, common-sense perspective to conversations about healing, trust, and connection. She earned her bachelor’s degree in psychology from Brigham Young University and is an ACA-certified coach. Jody has years of experience in corporate training, small business leadership, and family life, and raising four children (two of them neurodivergent). She loves watercolor painting, landscape design, spending time outdoors, and snow skiing.

Sep 25, 2025 • 28min
Trust Isn't Built How You Think
When trust has been broken, the recovering partner often feels pressure to prove they can be trusted again. They may follow instructions perfectly, track progress, and work hard to “get it right.” But instead of bringing closeness, all that proving can backfire—turning the betrayed partner into an audience who feels pressured to respond with gratitude or forgiveness before they’re ready.
In this episode of From Crisis to Connection, Geoff and Jody unpack why proving often stalls healing and what it means to shift from proving trust to providing safety. They share:
Why performance-based proving creates pressure and can feel transactional
How providing safety relieves pressure and supports the betrayed partner’s nervous system
Why safety—not proof—creates the soil where real trust can grow
How couples benefit when the focus shifts from evidence to presence
Practical ways betrayed and recovering partners can move forward at their own pace
The conversation highlights a simple but powerful reframe: trust isn’t what builds safety—safety is what builds trust.
______________________________
Download the Free Resource: You, Me, Us - A Way Forward After Betrayal
When betrayal has shaken your relationship, it can feel impossible to know where to begin. This free 15-minute video and companion worksheet will help you steady yourself, support your partner, and begin caring for the relationship between you. Get your copy here.
______________________________
Join the Courageous Together™ Program
Courageous Together™ isn’t just another course, it’s a trauma-informed roadmap that holds both of you in the healing process. If you’ve ever wondered “Where do we even start?” After betrayal, this program gives you the clarity and structure you need. It meets the betrayed partner’s need for safety while guiding the recovering partner toward real accountability, creating a path forward that neither of you has to figure out on your own.
Healing from betrayal is overwhelming in isolation, which is why Courageous Together™ brings you expert guidance, practical tools, and a supportive community of couples walking the same road. Inside, you’ll find a step-by-step framework, live support opportunities, and the reassurance that you’re not alone as you rebuild safety, restore trust, and move toward genuine connection.
You’ll have access to:
A structured healing framework with step-by-step guidance
Video lessons and worksheets to build safety, accountability, and connection
The option to join live group circles and support calls with me
A private, secure community of others walking the same path
Learn more and join us inside Courageous Together: www.geoffsteurer.com/courageous-together
______________________________
Stay Connected
Website
YouTube
Instagram
Facebook
If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might need it. And don’t forget to leave a review! We’d love to hear how this podcast is supporting your healing journey.
______________________________
Watch on YouTube
Prefer video? You can watch full episodes of From Crisis to Connection on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@FromCrisistoConnectionPocast.
______________________________About Geoff Steurer
I am a licensed marriage and family therapist and Certified Clinical Partner Specialist (CCPS) with 25+ years of experience helping individuals and couples heal from the devastation of sexual betrayal and broken trust. I am the founder of the Courageous Together program, co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, and co-author of Love You, Hate the Porn. My work integrates trauma-informed care, attachment theory, and practical tools for creating lasting safety and connection. I’ve been married to my wife, Jody, since 1996 and we are the parents of four children.
About Jody SteurerJody is the co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, where she brings her thoughtful, common-sense perspective to conversations about healing, trust, and connection. She earned her bachelor’s degree in psychology from Brigham Young University and is an ACA-certified coach. Jody has years of experience in corporate training, small business leadership, and family life, and raising four children (two of them neurodivergent). She loves watercolor painting, landscape design, spending time outdoors, and snow skiing.

Sep 18, 2025 • 35min
Are You Behind in Your Recovery?
Do you ever feel like you’re falling behind in healing? You look around and it seems like everyone else is moving forward while you’re stuck, spinning, or even slipping backward. The truth is—you might be doing all the right things, but healing doesn’t follow a straight line.
In this episode of From Crisis to Connection, Geoff and Jody unpack the belief that you’re “behind” in recovery. They explore how this shows up differently for betrayed partners, recovering partners, and couples—and reveal what’s really happening beneath the surface.
You’ll hear:
Why betrayed partners often feel years behind from the moment of discovery
How comparison, past wounds, and betrayal blindness intensify the feeling of being stuck
Why recovering partners live with the fear of being in the “perpetual doghouse”
How couples together can carry a sense of “couple shame” that erases past progress
Why healing is not linear, but layered and indirect—and why that’s actually hopeful
If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re doing recovery “right,” this episode will help you see that showing up—even when it feels messy—is part of the healing process.
______________________________
Download the Free Resource: You, Me, Us - A Way Forward After Betrayal
When betrayal has shaken your relationship, it can feel impossible to know where to begin. This free 15-minute video and companion worksheet will help you steady yourself, support your partner, and begin caring for the relationship between you. Get your copy here.
______________________________
Join the Courageous Together™ Program
Courageous Together™ isn’t just another course, it’s a trauma-informed roadmap that holds both of you in the healing process. If you’ve ever wondered “Where do we even start?” After betrayal, this program gives you the clarity and structure you need. It meets the betrayed partner’s need for safety while guiding the recovering partner toward real accountability, creating a path forward that neither of you has to figure out on your own.
Healing from betrayal is overwhelming in isolation, which is why Courageous Together™ brings you expert guidance, practical tools, and a supportive community of couples walking the same road. Inside, you’ll find a step-by-step framework, live support opportunities, and the reassurance that you’re not alone as you rebuild safety, restore trust, and move toward genuine connection.
You’ll have access to:
A structured healing framework with step-by-step guidance
Video lessons and worksheets to build safety, accountability, and connection
The option to join live group circles and support calls with me
A private, secure community of others walking the same path
Learn more and join us inside Courageous Together: www.geoffsteurer.com/courageous-together
______________________________
Stay Connected
Website
YouTube
Instagram
Facebook
If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might need it. And don’t forget to leave a review! We’d love to hear how this podcast is supporting your healing journey.
______________________________
Watch on YouTube
Prefer video? You can watch full episodes of From Crisis to Connection on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@FromCrisistoConnectionPocast.
______________________________About Geoff Steurer
I am a licensed marriage and family therapist and Certified Clinical Partner Specialist (CCPS) with 25+ years of experience helping individuals and couples heal from the devastation of sexual betrayal and broken trust. I am the founder of the Courageous Together program, co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, and co-author of Love You, Hate the Porn. My work integrates trauma-informed care, attachment theory, and practical tools for creating lasting safety and connection. I’ve been married to my wife, Jody, since 1996 and we are the parents of four children.
About Jody SteurerJody is the co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, where she brings her thoughtful, common-sense perspective to conversations about healing, trust, and connection. She earned her bachelor’s degree in psychology from Brigham Young University and is an ACA-certified coach. Jody has years of experience in corporate training, small business leadership, and family life, and raising four children (two of them neurodivergent). She loves watercolor painting, landscape design, spending time outdoors, and snow skiing.

Sep 11, 2025 • 30min
Betrayal: Accountability vs. Expectations
After betrayal, couples often find themselves trapped in a cycle. The unfaithful partner wants to explain, while the betrayed partner longs for real accountability. Instead of bringing clarity, explanations often sound like excuses. The betrayed partner feels dismissed, the unfaithful partner feels shut down, and the cycle repeats.
In this episode of From Crisis to Connection, Geoff and Jody explore why this dynamic is so common and what couples can do differently. You’ll hear:
Why betrayed partners feel torn between their own pain and their natural empathy
How betrayal blindness can lead to minimizing wounds just to keep the peace
Why the recovering partner’s instinct to explain often blocks healing
How the order of repair—accountability first, explanation later—creates safety and trust
Practical steps both partners can take to break the cycle and move forward
Using stories, clinical insights, and personal examples, Geoff and Jody show why accountability must come before explanation and how this shift can transform the healing process.
______________________________
Download the Free Resource: You, Me, Us - A Way Forward After Betrayal
When betrayal has shaken your relationship, it can feel impossible to know where to begin. This free 15-minute video and companion worksheet will help you steady yourself, support your partner, and begin caring for the relationship between you. Get your copy here.
______________________________
Join the Courageous Together™ Program
Courageous Together™ isn’t just another course, it’s a trauma-informed roadmap that holds both of you in the healing process. If you’ve ever wondered “Where do we even start?” After betrayal, this program gives you the clarity and structure you need. It meets the betrayed partner’s need for safety while guiding the recovering partner toward real accountability, creating a path forward that neither of you has to figure out on your own.
Healing from betrayal is overwhelming in isolation, which is why Courageous Together™ brings you expert guidance, practical tools, and a supportive community of couples walking the same road. Inside, you’ll find a step-by-step framework, live support opportunities, and the reassurance that you’re not alone as you rebuild safety, restore trust, and move toward genuine connection.
You’ll have access to:
A structured healing framework with step-by-step guidance
Video lessons and worksheets to build safety, accountability, and connection
The option to join live group circles and support calls with me
A private, secure community of others walking the same path
Learn more and join us inside Courageous Together: www.geoffsteurer.com/courageous-together
______________________________
Stay Connected
Website
YouTube
Instagram
Facebook
If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might need it. And don’t forget to leave a review! We’d love to hear how this podcast is supporting your healing journey.
______________________________
Watch on YouTube
Prefer video? You can watch full episodes of From Crisis to Connection on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@FromCrisistoConnectionPocast.
______________________________About Geoff Steurer
I am a licensed marriage and family therapist and Certified Clinical Partner Specialist (CCPS) with 25+ years of experience helping individuals and couples heal from the devastation of sexual betrayal and broken trust. I am the founder of the Courageous Together program, co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, and co-author of Love You, Hate the Porn. My work integrates trauma-informed care, attachment theory, and practical tools for creating lasting safety and connection. I’ve been married to my wife, Jody, since 1996 and we are the parents of four children.
About Jody SteurerJody is the co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, where she brings her thoughtful, common-sense perspective to conversations about healing, trust, and connection. She earned her bachelor’s degree in psychology from Brigham Young University and is an ACA-certified coach. Jody has years of experience in corporate training, small business leadership, and family life, and raising four children (two of them neurodivergent). She loves watercolor painting, landscape design, spending time outdoors, and snow skiing.

Sep 4, 2025 • 35min
Who Goes First in Recovery?
After betrayal, many couples get stuck in a painful waiting game. The betrayed partner wants proof of safety before risking vulnerability, while the recovering partner waits for reassurance before stepping forward. Both feel paralyzed, and the relationship stalls.
In this episode, Geoff and Jody break down how each partner can move forward without waiting for the other to go first. They explore:
The difference between individual healing and relational repair
Why betrayed partners often freeze and how honesty becomes the first courageous step
Why recovering partners hesitate and how leaning into discomfort builds trust
How both partners can create momentum by taking small, authentic steps
You’ll hear how courage looks different for each partner, and how choosing to move—rather than waiting—creates the foundation for healing and reconnection.__________________________
Download the Free Resource: You, Me, Us - A Way Forward After Betrayal
When betrayal has shaken your relationship, it can feel impossible to know where to begin. This free 15-minute video and companion worksheet will help you steady yourself, support your partner, and begin caring for the relationship between you. Get your copy here.__________________________
Join the Courageous Together™ Program
Courageous Together™ isn’t just another course, it’s a trauma-informed roadmap that holds both of you in the healing process. If you’ve ever wondered “Where do we even start?” after betrayal, this program gives you the clarity and structure you need. It meets the betrayed partner’s need for safety while guiding the recovering partner toward real accountability, creating a path forward that neither of you has to figure out on your own.
Healing from betrayal is overwhelming in isolation, which is why Courageous Together™ brings you expert guidance, practical tools, and a supportive community of couples walking the same road. Inside, you’ll find a step-by-step framework, live support opportunities, and the reassurance that you’re not alone as you rebuild safety, restore trust, and move toward genuine connection.
You’ll have access to:
A structured healing framework with step-by-step guidance
Video lessons and worksheets to build safety, accountability, and connection
The option to join live group circles and support calls with me
A private, secure community of others walking the same path
Learn more and join us inside Courageous Together: www.geoffsteurer.com/courageous-together_______________________________
Stay Connected
Website
YouTube
Instagram
Facebook
If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might need it. And don’t forget to leave a review! We’d love to hear how this podcast is supporting your healing journey.____________________________
Watch on YouTube
Prefer video? You can watch full episodes of From Crisis to Connection on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@FromCrisistoConnectionPocast.___________________________________About Geoff Steurer
I am a licensed marriage and family therapist and Certified Clinical Partner Specialist (CCPS) with 25+ years of experience helping individuals and couples heal from the devastation of sexual betrayal and broken trust. I am the founder of the Courageous Together program, co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, and co-author of Love You, Hate the Porn. My work integrates trauma-informed care, attachment theory, and practical tools for creating lasting safety and connection. I’ve been married to my wife, Jody, since 1996 and we are the parents of four children.
About Jody SteurerJody is the co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, where she brings her thoughtful, common-sense perspective to conversations about healing, trust, and connection. She earned her bachelor’s degree in psychology from Brigham Young University and is an ACA-certified coach. Jody has years of experience in corporate training, small business leadership, and family life, and raising four children (two of them neurodivergent). She loves watercolor painting, landscape design, spending time outdoors, and snow skiing.

Jun 19, 2025 • 41min
We're Stable, But Are We Actually Healing?
Free Video Training Resource for Betrayed Partners: https://www.geoffsteurer.com/romance-after-betrayal
This episode is taken from a presentation I gave at the Betrayal Healing Conference earlier this year, where I shared what later-stage recovery really looks like for couples working to rebuild trust and connection.In this episode, we talk about what it takes for couples to truly thrive after the initial crisis of betrayal has passed. We explore what “later-stage” recovery looks like: not just surviving, but building something new, strong, and deeply connected.
Key Takeaways
✅ Later-stage recovery is often overlooked, but it’s essential for rebuilding connection
✅ Surviving crisis is not the same as building a new relationship
✅ Emotional intimacy, shared vision, and curiosity fuel long-term healing
✅ You need new skills for this stage, old crisis tools won’t get you there
Free Video Training Resource for Betrayed Partners: https://www.geoffsteurer.com/romance-after-betrayal
If the podcast has helped you and you want to support what we’re building, we’d be grateful for a one-time donation (https://buy.stripe.com/bJe28sach0uS6T065o4wM00). You can also subscribe, leave a review, or share your favorite episode with someone who needs it.
🔗 Links and Resources:
💛 Make a one-time donation to support the podcast: https://buy.stripe.com/bJe28sach0uS6T065o4wM00
📬 Join our weekly email list: https://www.geoffsteurer.com/newsletter-opt-in-podcast
✍️ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-crisis-to-connection-with-geoff-jody-steurer/id1290359940
⭐ Rate us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06CVunlMc6i3BESVe9YaEr
If you’re navigating broken trust in your relationship, whether you’re the one who broke it or you’ve been deeply impacted by it, this free video course can help.
📋Join me in the Courageous Together™ Program
If you’re looking for structured guidance, support, and a clear roadmap for recovery, check out my Courageous Together Program—an online course and support system designed to help couples rebuild trust and connection. Inside, you’ll get:
✅ A structured healing roadmap
✅ Live Q&A sessions with me
✅ Exclusive video lessons and worksheets
✅ Confidential and secure access
Let’s Stay Connected:
🌍Website
📩Subscribe to My Email List
📍Instagram
🪧Facebook
🎙️Listen to More Podcast Episodes
About Geoff Steurer:I am a licensed marriage and family therapist, relationship educator, and coach with over 20 years of experience. I am the co-author of, "Love You, Hate the Porn: Healing a Relationship Damaged by Virtual Infidelity", the host of the weekly podcast, "From Crisis to Connection", and have produced workbooks, audio programs, and online courses helping couples and individuals heal from the impact of sexual betrayal, unwanted pornography use, partner betrayal trauma, and rebuilding broken trust. As a leader in the field, I am a frequent contributor on these subjects at national conferences, documentaries, blogs, magazines, and podcasts. I also write a weekly relationship advice column available on my blog. I founded and ran an outpatient sexual addiction and betrayal trauma recovery group program for over 14 years, co-founded and chaired a local conference to educate community members about harmful media, and founded and administered a specialized group therapy practice for over 10 years. I currently maintain a private counseling and coaching practice in beautiful Southern Utah where I live with my wife and children.
The advice offered through Geoff Steurer's podcasts is educational and informational in nature and is provided only as general information. It is not meant to establish a therapist-patient relationship or offer therapeutic advice, opinion, diagnosis treatment or to establish a standard of care. Although Geoff Steurer is a trained psychotherapist, he is not functioning in the role of a licensed therapist during these podcasts, but rather using his training to inform the content. Thus, the content is not intended to replace independent professional judgment. The content is not intended to solicit clients or patients, and should not be relied upon as medical or psychological advice of any kind or nature whatsoever. The information provided through the Content should not be used for diagnosing or treating a mental health problem or disease. The information contained in these communications is not comprehensive and does not include all the potential information regarding the subject matter, but is merely intended to serve as one resource for general and educational purposes.

Jun 5, 2025 • 5min
Why We're Pressing Pause (and What Comes Next)
After more than 300 weekly episodes, we are taking a short pause from From Crisis to Connection.
In this brief update, we share why we’re stepping back for a couple of months. It’s not because of burnout but to make space for reflection, clarity, and growth. We want to continue serving you with intention and depth, and this pause is part of that process.
Here’s what to expect while we’re away:
No new weekly episodes during the summer
A weekly email with a curated past episode that’s worth revisiting
A chance to stay connected and supported through the pause
If the podcast has helped you and you want to support what we’re building, we’d be grateful for a one-time donation (https://buy.stripe.com/bJe28sach0uS6T065o4wM00). You can also subscribe, leave a review, or share your favorite episode with someone who needs it.
We’ll be back soon with new ideas, renewed energy, and more conversations that matter
🔗 Links and Resources:
💛 Make a one-time donation to support the podcast: https://buy.stripe.com/bJe28sach0uS6T065o4wM00
📬 Join our weekly email list: https://www.geoffsteurer.com/newsletter-opt-in-podcast
✍️ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-crisis-to-connection-with-geoff-jody-steurer/id1290359940
⭐ Rate us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06CVunlMc6i3BESVe9YaEr

May 22, 2025 • 36min
When Men Are Betrayed: Breaking the Silence Around Male Betrayal Trauma
When it comes to betrayal, we often hear one story: the man cheats, the woman is hurt, and support rallies around her. But what happens when the script is flipped? In this powerful conversation, I sit down with Adam Nisenson, a coach and author who helps men navigate betrayal trauma—a subject that’s rarely talked about and often misunderstood.
Adam shares his own experience of being betrayed, the cultural narratives that silence men in pain, and why so many men suffer in isolation. We explore how betrayal crushes identity, triggers deep ego wounds, and leaves men unsure of how to move forward.
This episode offers insight, language, and hope for betrayed men—and for those who love them.
Key Takeaways:
✅ Men are betrayed too—and they need space, language, and support to heal
✅ The stigma around male pain leads to silence, shame, and self-blame
✅ Performing, providing, and pretending don’t heal betrayal—they hide it
✅ Surrendering isn’t weakness—it’s the first step toward reclaiming your strength
✅ Healing after betrayal can lead to deeper self-respect, better boundaries, and healthier love
If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might need it. And don’t forget to leave a review—we’d love to hear how this podcast is supporting your healing journey!
🎁 Download My Free Course: First Steps to Rebuilding Trust
If you’re navigating broken trust in your relationship, whether you’re the one who broke it or you’ve been deeply impacted by it, this free video course can help.
📋Join me in the Courageous Together™ Program
If you’re looking for structured guidance, support, and a clear roadmap for recovery, check out my Courageous Together Program—an online course and support system designed to help couples rebuild trust and connection. Inside, you’ll get:
✅ A structured healing roadmap
✅ Live Q&A sessions with me
✅ Exclusive video lessons and worksheets
✅ Confidential and secure access
Let’s Stay Connected:
🌍Website
📩Subscribe to My Email List
📍Instagram
🪧Facebook
🎙️Listen to More Podcast Episodes
About Geoff Steurer:I am a licensed marriage and family therapist, relationship educator, and coach with over 20 years of experience. I am the co-author of, "Love You, Hate the Porn: Healing a Relationship Damaged by Virtual Infidelity", the host of the weekly podcast, "From Crisis to Connection", and have produced workbooks, audio programs, and online courses helping couples and individuals heal from the impact of sexual betrayal, unwanted pornography use, partner betrayal trauma, and rebuilding broken trust. As a leader in the field, I am a frequent contributor on these subjects at national conferences, documentaries, blogs, magazines, and podcasts. I also write a weekly relationship advice column available on my blog. I founded and ran an outpatient sexual addiction and betrayal trauma recovery group program for over 14 years, co-founded and chaired a local conference to educate community members about harmful media, and founded and administered a specialized group therapy practice for over 10 years. I currently maintain a private counseling and coaching practice in beautiful Southern Utah where I live with my wife and children.
About Jody Steurer:Jody has been a strong voice supporting women as co-host of the podcast “Speak Up Sister”. She completed a bachelor's degree in psychology from Brigham Young University and is an ACA certified coach. She runs a small business and has years of experience in corporate training and organization. Jody’s most challenging work has been raising her four children (two of which are on the autism spectrum). She loves to do landscape design, paint in watercolor, spend time outdoors, and snow ski.
About Adam Nisenson:Adam Nisenson, LMFT, CSAT, known as the Betrayal Shrink, combines his extensive clinical skills with a deeply empathetic heart in his role as a Betrayal Trauma Coach. Licensed as a Marriage and Family Therapist and Certified Sex Addiction Therapist, Adam is dedicated to guiding men through the complex emotions and challenges of betrayal trauma. His methodology is deeply influenced by his intimate grasp of the trials faced by men confronting a partner’s infidelity. Leveraging his extensive clinical background and personal insights of being a betrayal partner himself, Adam creates a supportive and understanding environment, where clients are led through their journey of healing with compassion and wisdom.
Holding a degree from Pacifica Graduate Institute with a focus on Marriage and Family Therapy, Professional Clinical Counseling, and Depth Psychology, Adam has committed his career to addressing critical issues such as betrayal, infidelity, sex addiction, and the myriad life challenges that accompany them. With Adam, the journey is not just about recovery; it's about embarking on a path of profound personal growth and rediscovery.
Website:https://betrayalshrink.com
Adam’s book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4jfG35e
Instagram: @BetrayalShrink
The advice offered through Geoff Steurer's podcasts is educational and informational in nature and is provided only as general information. It is not meant to establish a therapist-patient relationship or offer therapeutic advice, opinion, diagnosis treatment or to establish a standard of care. Although Geoff Steurer is a trained psychotherapist, he is not functioning in the role of a licensed therapist during these podcasts, but rather using his training to inform the content. Thus, the content is not intended to replace independent professional judgment. The content is not intended to solicit clients or patients, and should not be relied upon as medical or psychological advice of any kind or nature whatsoever. The information provided through the Content should not be used for diagnosing or treating a mental health problem or disease. The information contained in these communications is not comprehensive and does not include all the potential information regarding the subject matter, but is merely intended to serve as one resource for general and educational purposes.
Episode 297

May 15, 2025 • 39min
Building a Marriage Team
In early recovery, survival is the focus. But what does it look like for couples who’ve done the foundational healing work to move beyond crisis and start rebuilding true partnership?
In this powerful and relatable episode, we sit down with Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith, a couple who have lived through the depths of betrayal trauma and are now guiding others in later-stage recovery. Together, we explore what healthy partnership looks like after the secrets, lies, and trauma are out in the open—and when safety, sobriety, and honesty are becoming consistent.
We dig into the real dynamics of post-trauma cooperation vs. competition, compliance, and conflict avoidance. The Raabsmiths share personal stories and practical tools that couples can use to rebuild trust and co-create a shared life vision.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:⏳ [02:30] – The essential recovery foundations that must be in place before true partnership is possible⏳ [04:00] – Why couples often fall into competition or compliance, and how it erodes intimacy⏳ [07:00] – How to recognize covert power struggles and replace them with cooperative communication⏳ [09:30] – The hidden dangers of “polite compromise” and why it’s not the same as collaboration⏳ [20:20] – Using values and emotions to rebuild a shared vision after betrayal⏳ [22:45] – How individual healing (therapy, support groups, boundaries) is an act of relational care⏳ [32:00] – What shared responsibility and honest self-expression look like in real-time partnership
If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might need it. And don’t forget to leave a review—we’d love to hear how this podcast is supporting your healing journey!
🎁 Download My Free Course: First Steps to Rebuilding Trust If you’re navigating broken trust in your relationship, whether you’re the one who broke it or you’ve been deeply impacted by it, this free video course can help.
📋Join me in the Courageous Together™ Program If you’re looking for structured guidance, support, and a clear roadmap for recovery, check out my Courageous Together Program—an online course and support system designed to help couples rebuild trust and connection. Inside, you’ll get:
✅ A structured healing roadmap✅ Live Q&A sessions with me✅ Exclusive video lessons and worksheets✅ Confidential and secure access
Let’s Stay Connected:🌍Website 📩Subscribe to My Email List 📍Instagram🪧Facebook🎙️Listen to More Podcast Episodes
About Geoff Steurer:I am a licensed marriage and family therapist, relationship educator, and coach with over 20 years of experience. I am the co-author of, "Love You, Hate the Porn: Healing a Relationship Damaged by Virtual Infidelity", the host of the weekly podcast, "From Crisis to Connection", and have produced workbooks, audio programs, and online courses helping couples and individuals heal from the impact of sexual betrayal, unwanted pornography use, partner betrayal trauma, and rebuilding broken trust. As a leader in the field, I am a frequent contributor on these subjects at national conferences, documentaries, blogs, magazines, and podcasts. I also write a weekly relationship advice column available on my blog. I founded and ran an outpatient sexual addiction and betrayal trauma recovery group program for over 14 years, co-founded and chaired a local conference to educate community members about harmful media, and founded and administered a specialized group therapy practice for over 10 years. I currently maintain a private counseling and coaching practice in beautiful Southern Utah where I live with my wife and children.
About Jody Steurer:Jody has been a strong voice supporting women as co-host of the podcast “Speak Up Sister”. She completed a bachelor's degree in psychology from Brigham Young University and is an ACA certified coach. She runs a small business and has years of experience in corporate training and organization. Jody’s most challenging work has been raising her four children (two of which are on the autism spectrum). She loves to do landscape design, paint in watercolor, spend time outdoors, and snow ski.
About Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith:Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith are clinicians, speakers, and authors with over 20 years of combined experience in counseling, coaching, and guiding couples toward healing and transformation. Their mission is to help couples navigate the complexities of relational challenges, particularly in the aftermath of sexual addiction and betrayal trauma, fostering deep restoration and growth.
Matthew is a Professional Certified Coach through the International Coaching Federation (ICF) with a background in pastoral leadership, while Joanna is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, EMDR practitioner, and Certified Clinical Partner Specialist through APSATS. Both hold Master of Divinity degrees and have served together on multiple church leadership teams. Currently, they co-lead their private practice, The Raabsmith Team, where they specialize in helping couples rebuild connection, trust, and intimacy.
Their passion for this work stems from their own journey of restoration. After experiencing the devastating effects of sexual addiction and betrayal in their marriage, Matthew and Joanna embarked on a years-long pursuit of reconciliation. This transformative experience led to the creation of tools like The Intimacy Pyramid™️, a practical model for relational restoration and growth co-created with colleague Dan Drake.
Their first book, Building True Intimacy (2023), has sold over 1,000 copies and provides practical guidance for couples to use the Intimacy Pyramid to create enduring connections. They also founded Renewing Us Recovery™️, a comprehensive program designed to support couples in the later stages of relational restoration. In November 2025, they will host the inaugural Renewing Us Couples Retreat, offering workshops and connection opportunities for couples on similar paths of recovery and growth.
Matthew and Joanna live in Memphis, Tennessee, with their three young children. They prioritize self-care through shared adventures, new experiences, and a weekly game of pickleball.
http://www.raabsmithteam.com/free
The advice offered through Geoff Steurer's podcasts is educational and informational in nature and is provided only as general information. It is not meant to establish a therapist-patient relationship or offer therapeutic advice, opinion, diagnosis treatment or to establish a standard of care. Although Geoff Steurer is a trained psychotherapist, he is not functioning in the role of a licensed therapist during these podcasts, but rather using his training to inform the content. Thus, the content is not intended to replace independent professional judgment. The content is not intended to solicit clients or patients, and should not be relied upon as medical or psychological advice of any kind or nature whatsoever. The information provided through the Content should not be used for diagnosing or treating a mental health problem or disease. The information contained in these communications is not comprehensive and does not include all the potential information regarding the subject matter, but is merely intended to serve as one resource for general and educational purposes.
Episode 296

May 8, 2025 • 44min
Sex Addiction: Is My Husband in Good Recovery?
You’ve stopped the behavior. You’re going to the meetings. You’re doing everything the books and podcasts say to do. So why doesn’t your partner trust you yet?
In this honest and challenging conversation, we talk with Roland Cochrun, a recovery advocate and founder of SuccessfulAddict.com, about the biggest blind spots in early recovery—and why checking the right boxes doesn’t guarantee real change.
Roland shares his personal experience, the research behind what actually works, and why recovery must be more than just avoiding relapse. If you’ve ever felt stuck, discouraged, or unsure whether your progress is enough, this episode offers a much-needed reset.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:⏳ [04:00] – The false sense of progress in early recovery—and why so many miss the bigger picture⏳ [06:00] – The difference between sobriety and recovery (and why most guys confuse the two)⏳ [09:30] – Why focusing only on stopping behaviors leads to high relapse rates⏳ [12:30] – What betrayed partners are really asking for when they say, “You’re not trying hard enough”⏳ [16:00] – Understanding process addiction and why porn or sex might not be the real issue⏳ [19:50] – How to define “good recovery” and why most guys aren’t doing it⏳ [32:30] – Why couples need a shared roadmap and how to build one together
If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might need it. And don’t forget to leave a review—we’d love to hear how this podcast is supporting your healing journey!
🎁 Download My Free Course: First Steps to Rebuilding Trust
If you’re navigating broken trust in your relationship, whether you’re the one who broke it or you’ve been deeply impacted by it, this free video course can help.
📋Join me in the Courageous Together™ Program
If you’re looking for structured guidance, support, and a clear roadmap for recovery, check out my Courageous Together Program—an online course and support system designed to help couples rebuild trust and connection. Inside, you’ll get:
✅ A structured healing roadmap
✅ Live Q&A sessions with me
✅ Exclusive video lessons and worksheets
✅ Confidential and secure access
Let’s Stay Connected:
🌍Website
📩Subscribe to My Email List
📍Instagram
🪧Facebook
🎙️Listen to More Podcast Episodes
About Geoff Steurer:I am a licensed marriage and family therapist, relationship educator, and coach with over 20 years of experience. I am the co-author of, "Love You, Hate the Porn: Healing a Relationship Damaged by Virtual Infidelity", the host of the weekly podcast, "From Crisis to Connection", and have produced workbooks, audio programs, and online courses helping couples and individuals heal from the impact of sexual betrayal, unwanted pornography use, partner betrayal trauma, and rebuilding broken trust. As a leader in the field, I am a frequent contributor on these subjects at national conferences, documentaries, blogs, magazines, and podcasts. I also write a weekly relationship advice column available on my blog. I founded and ran an outpatient sexual addiction and betrayal trauma recovery group program for over 14 years, co-founded and chaired a local conference to educate community members about harmful media, and founded and administered a specialized group therapy practice for over 10 years. I currently maintain a private counseling and coaching practice in beautiful Southern Utah where I live with my wife and children.
About Jody Steurer:Jody has been a strong voice supporting women as co-host of the podcast “Speak Up Sister”. She completed a bachelor's degree in psychology from Brigham Young University and is an ACA certified coach. She runs a small business and has years of experience in corporate training and organization. Jody’s most challenging work has been raising her four children (two of which are on the autism spectrum). She loves to do landscape design, paint in watercolor, spend time outdoors, and snow ski.
About Roland Cochrun:Roland Cochrun is the founder of The Successful Addict, a sex addiction recovery group designed specifically for high-achievers, executives, business professionals, and entrepreneurs. As a high-achiever and recovering addict himself, Roland found it very difficult to find like-minded men to connect with in recovery. The Successful Addict provides ambitious men with a deeply connected recovery group full of other successful professionals who are working hard to overcome their sex and porn addiction.
Roland is also the author of the book, The High Achiever's Guide to Sex Addiction Recovery, and the host of The Sex Addiction Podcast for High-achievers and Entrepreneurs, which applies sobriety and recovery principles specifically to the mindset of the high-achiever. You can find out more about Roland's recovery groups at successfuladdict.com
Buy Roland's book on Amazon here: https://a.co/d/4BHcwu8To join one of his recovery groups, go here: https://www.successfuladdict.com/To listen to Roland's podcast, go here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sex-addiction-podcast-for-high-achievers/id1757165206To access the "good recovery" checklist:http://successfuladdict.com/goodrecovery
The advice offered through Geoff Steurer's podcasts is educational and informational in nature and is provided only as general information. It is not meant to establish a therapist-patient relationship or offer therapeutic advice, opinion, diagnosis treatment or to establish a standard of care. Although Geoff Steurer is a trained psychotherapist, he is not functioning in the role of a licensed therapist during these podcasts, but rather using his training to inform the content. Thus, the content is not intended to replace independent professional judgment. The content is not intended to solicit clients or patients, and should not be relied upon as medical or psychological advice of any kind or nature whatsoever. The information provided through the Content should not be used for diagnosing or treating a mental health problem or disease. The information contained in these communications is not comprehensive and does not include all the potential information regarding the subject matter, but is merely intended to serve as one resource for general and educational purposes.
Episode 295