
The Trail Network Podcast
The Trail Network Podcast brings the untold stories of magical moments amongst trail runners to life. These stories of runners on and off the trail capture the spirit of trailrunning and the power of friendship and connection.
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Jul 18, 2025 • 1h 33min
Episode 66: Hilary Yang’s Hardrock 100: A Journey Through the Lowest Lows and Strongest Finish
This week on the Trail Network Podcast, Hilary Yang and Katie Asmuth sit down for a full race recap of Hilary’s experience at the 2025 Hardrock 100. Katie was on the ground at Hardrock crewing and pacing, and in this episode she interviews Hilary about every stage of her race — from the difficult lead-up to the finish line in Silverton.Hilary breaks down the most challenging moments of the race, including:Battling altitude, cold temperatures, and wildfire smoke within the first 10 milesStruggling through severe nausea, multiple vomiting episodes, and long stretches without crew supportMentally navigating the lowest points on course while running almost 12 hours without pacersA dramatic late-race comeback after mile 75 with the help of an incredible crew and pacersRacing the clock to avoid cutoffs, summiting iconic Grant Swamp Pass at sunset, and passing over a dozen runners in the final milesA terrifying fall four miles from the finish and pushing through hallucinations to kiss the rockHilary and Katie also discuss key takeaways, including:Lessons learned about fueling at altitude and adapting when things go wrongThe crucial role of her crew and pacing team in turning the race aroundHilary’s thoughts on going back to Hardrock in the futureA sneak peek into the upcoming documentary Billy Yang is producing about Hilary’s Hardrock journeyThis is a raw and honest episode about what it takes to finish one of the hardest mountain ultras in the world. Hilary reflects on the months and years of preparation that led to this moment, how she stayed mentally engaged despite major setbacks, and why finishing Hardrock was about much more than a finish time.Listen in for a true behind-the-scenes look at Hardrock 100 through the eyes of a first-time finisher.This episode is edited and produced by the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network.A special thank you to Osprey for supporting this episode. Visit Osprey.com to explore their incredible products!And a big thanks to our newest sponsor, Janji with the code TRAILNETWORK for a 10% discount on your Janji order.

Jul 18, 2025 • 45min
Episode 65: Hot Takes and High Altitude: Summer Training, Aid Station Equity, and the Future of Trail Running
Katie Asmuth hosts this lively and thoughtful episode from Leadville, Colorado, alongside Riley Brady and Ellie Pell. Fresh off a 28-mile run above 10,000 feet, the trio dives into a wide-ranging conversation that blends humor, hot takes, and real questions about the future of the sport.Topics covered include:Leadville ambitions – Katie reveals her goal to race Leadville and shares what makes qualifying so unique.The GPS watch dilemma – Why do navigation tools still miss the mark on trail accuracy?Western States reflections – Riley shares insights after a tough day at States and what it was like running through a packed, high-energy escarpment.Should top contenders get different treatment? – A deep dive into whether elites deserve streamlined aid station support, and how the sport might better serve athletes at every level.Standardizing rules in ultras – From pacer regulations to course-cutting consequences, the group debates how much should be uniform across races.Gear gripes and wish lists – The trio wants lighter gels, faster hydration packs, better laces, and athlete-only zones for ravenous post-run athletes.Sponsorship honesty – They call out the all-too-common trend of athletes endorsing gear they don’t actually use.Coach talk – From Corinne Malcolm to Tyler Green and Rick Floyd, they shout out great coaches and emphasize the importance of honest communication and coach-athlete fit.Favorite sports moments – From crossword gold stars to Angel Reese’s iconic NCAA gesture, they share moments that inspired or cracked them up.This episode blends trail talk with bigger conversations about competition, fairness, and how the sport is evolving. Whether you're racing at the front, pacing a friend, or dreaming of your first ultra, there's something here for every trail runner.Listen in for: laughs, spicy takes, and a few ideas the trail world still isn’t talking about.This episode is edited and produced by the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network.A special thank you to Osprey for supporting this episode. Visit Osprey.com to explore their incredible products!And a big thanks to our newest sponsor, Janji with the code TRAILNETWORK for a 10% discount on your Janji order.

Jul 3, 2025 • 1h 8min
Episode 64: Western States: Media Mayhem and Why It Was the Best Year Yet
In this post-Western States 100 episode of the Trail Network Podcast, Leah Yingling, Hilary Yang, and Rachel Drake unpack the whirlwind of race week—both on the ground and from afar. They reflect on what made this year’s race feel so dynamic, unpredictable, and inspiring.They dive into everything from media chaos, crewing logistics, and coverage parity to the breakout performances from Abby Hall and Caleb Olson. Hilary shares behind-the-scenes insight from her documentary and social media work and Leah talks about the surprising spark that made her want to return to the race more than ever.Other highlights include:The explosion of media at Western States and how it’s reshaping race dayWhy this year’s women’s race coverage felt different—in a good wayStories of resilience, including the Golden Hour Runner and race-day improvisationsPregnant adventuring, postpartum plans, and what’s next for Hilary as she heads to HardrockWhether you were on the escarpment or watching from home, this episode captures the electric energy of Western States and why 2024 may have been the most memorable year yet.This episode is edited and produced by the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network.A special thank you to Osprey for supporting this episode. Visit Osprey.com to explore their incredible products!And a big thanks to our newest sponsor, Janji with the code TRAILNETWORK for a 10% discount on your Janji order.

Jun 27, 2025 • 1h 7min
Episode 63: Time to Talk States: Geeking Out on the Women of Western States 100
In this special in-person episode recorded live from Olympic Valley, co-hosts Katie Asmuth, Leah Yingling, and Hilary Yang dive deep into the 2025 Western States 100 women’s field. With race day tomorrow, the trio goes full trail nerd mode on everything from top contenders and international shake-ups to training blocks, Strava sleuthing, and personal insights.They break down race favorites, explore exciting dark horses, and spotlight powerful storylines. They also talk age group potential, debut 100-milers, and who might break the masters record this year.You'll also hear behind-the-scenes training tidbits, pacer prep, what makes this year’s field so uniquely deep and international, and even some spicy pre-race speculation: Who might top the escarpment first? Who’s secretly training in heat suits? And who’s a quiet killer ready to make a big move?It's a celebration of fierce women, racing guts, and the wild beauty of Western States 100. Let’s go.This episode is edited and produced by the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network.A special thank you to Osprey for supporting this episode. Visit Osprey.com to explore their incredible products!And a big thanks to our newest sponsor, Janji with the code TRAILNETWORK for a 10% discount on your Janji order.

Jun 19, 2025 • 35min
Episode 62: Trail Wisdom & First Steps: Advice for New Runners, Community Roots, and Gear Essentials
In this episode of The Trail Network, Leah Yingling, Katie Asmuth, and Rachel Drake tackle listener-submitted questions — from the most essential pieces of gear to the do’s and don’ts of early trail running. They reflect on their own first races, share stories from their original local trail crews, and discuss the learning curve that shaped their ultra journeys.The trio dives into topics like:The gear they wish they had when they started (spoiler: good socks and GPX watches go a long way)Why finding your local trail community might be the best investment of allNavigating the overwhelming flood of information in today's media-heavy running sceneTraining structure for long ultras — whether double runs or extended sessions work bestThe beauty of learning through mistakes (hello, 5-hour “easy” runs with one snack)Plus, they explore the value of coaching, celebrate female-led races pushing for parity in the sport, and close with a few words of wisdom for anyone just starting out.A perfect listen for new runners, seasoned trail vets, and anyone chasing joy out on the dirt.Teaser for next time: How would the crew race Western States if they were toeing the line this year? Tune in next week for that deep dive.This episode is edited and produced by the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network.A special thank you to Osprey for supporting this episode. Visit Osprey.com to explore their incredible products!And a big thanks to our newest sponsor, Janji with the code TRAILNETWORK for a 10% discount on your Janji order.

Jun 12, 2025 • 1h 9min
Episode 61: Ebb & Flow: Racing, Nutrition, and Rediscovering Joy in the Run
In this episode of The Trail Network Podcast, hosts Leah, Hilary, and Katie reconnect for a heartfelt roundtable about where running fits in different seasons of life—physically, emotionally, and logistically.Hilary kicks things off with a recap of her recent Malibu Canyon 50 miler, which she ran just days after a root canal. She shares what it was like to race while experimenting with new nutrition strategies from her work with Meredith Terranova, and how dialing in her fueling gave her the confidence boost she needed ahead of Hardrock.Katie follows with a recap of the Silver State 50K, a sweltering grassroots race in Reno that surprised her with community, connection, and a fierce competitor who shattered the course record. She reflects on how racing has changed now that her kids are older—and why she's committed to showing up, even when her fitness isn’t at its peak.Leah shares what it’s been like to not be in training mode right now and how that distance from competition has reshaped her perspective. The trio opens up about the complexities of returning from injury, growing families, shifting priorities, and the challenge of chasing performance while honoring longevity in the sport.They also dig into:– Nutrition lessons from both Hilary’s personal breakthroughs and Leah’s involvement in Lululemon’s Further research– What makes “training races” valuable (and fun!)– The unique pressure of trying to hit PRs as life evolves– The deep emotional tug of being a parent and an athlete– Upcoming Western States roles, Broken Arrow excitement, and what’s next for Here for the Women’s RaceThis conversation is an honest, thoughtful reflection on staying in love with the sport, even when the shape of that love changes.This episode is edited and produced by the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network.A special thank you to Osprey for supporting this episode. Visit Osprey.com to explore their incredible products!And a big thanks to our newest sponsor, Janji with the code TRAILNETWORK for a 10% discount on your Janji order.

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Jun 5, 2025 • 58min
Episode 60: Rachel and Leah Catch up on Life, Running, and How Time is Bumpin' Along for Both of Them
In this week’s episode of the Trail Network podcast, hosts Leah Yingling and Rachel Drake reconnect for a deep dive into recent adventures, personal milestones, and reflections on life, pregnancy, and trail running.Leah kicks off the episode with a recap of her recent trip to Northern Wales, where she crewed for her husband, Mike, at Ultra Trail Snowdonia—a notoriously rugged and stunningly beautiful race often dubbed “Hardrock at sea level.” Leah shares her experience navigating the course logistics, supporting Mike through brutally technical terrain, and balancing the demands of international travel while six months pregnant. The pair also reflect on the underrepresentation of women in ultra-distance events like Snowdonia and the broader implications of participation barriers in these challenging races.Rachel then recounts her rim-to-rim crossing of the Grand Canyon, completed just days prior to recording, as part of a supported project with Osprey and Precision Fuel & Hydration. She offers a raw and thoughtful look at preparing for a major effort while pregnant, including fueling changes, unexpected physical challenges, and the importance of adaptability and community support. The two also reflect on their evolving pregnancies, comparing their experiences, training adaptations, and what it means to find joy in movement during such a transformational time.The episode wraps with a meaningful discussion around postpartum expectations, race deferral policies, and the nuanced realities of running through pregnancy and fertility journeys. They spotlight Stephanie Case’s inspiring victory at the 100K at Snowdonia—six months postpartum and breastfeeding mid-race—as well as broader issues around representation, sponsorship policies, and UTMB ranking implications for pregnant athletes.With honesty, humor, and heart, Leah and Rachel celebrate the many ways women show up in the trail world—on the start line, crewing, parenting, recovering, and dreaming big.This episode is edited and produced by the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network.A special thank you to Osprey for supporting this episode. Visit Osprey.com to explore their incredible products!And a big thanks to our newest sponsor, Janji with the code TRAILNETWORK for a 10% discount on your Janji order.

May 22, 2025 • 37min
Episode 59 - From Twins to Trails: Taylor Nowlin’s Postpartum Return to Racing
In this episode of the Trail Network Podcast, host Rachel Drake sits down with professional trail runner, ICU nurse, and new mom of twins, Taylor Nowlin. Known for her top-10 finishes at Western States, CCC, and OCC, Taylor opens up about the highs and lows of pregnancy, motherhood, and her remarkable return to racing just eight months postpartum.Taylor shares the surprise of learning she was having twins while her husband was off-grid on a climbing trip, the complications that led to a high-risk pregnancy and early bed rest, and the physical and emotional challenges of recovering from a C-section. She also reflects on how her sponsors supported her through this season of change, and how strength training, a shift in mindset, and support from her community helped guide her back to competitive racing.Now training with coach Paul Lind and focusing on shorter, faster trail events like the Broken Arrow 23K, Taylor is embracing a new chapter of motherhood and racing—balancing lower mileage with higher intention. She and Rachel also share plenty of laughs about postpartum life, family travel chaos, and the role of their dogs as unofficial cleanup crew during baby mealtimes.Whether you're an athlete, a parent, or somewhere in between, this episode is an honest and inspiring look at resilience, identity, and the joy of returning to sport after life-changing transitions.This episode is edited and produced by the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network.A special thank you to Osprey for supporting this episode. Visit Osprey.com to explore their incredible products!And a big thanks to our newest sponsor, Janji with the code TRAILNETWORK for a 10% discount on your Janji order.

May 16, 2025 • 53min
Episode 58: Juggling Hardrock Training, Race Directing & Big Dreams — A Catch-Up with Hilary Yang
On this week’s episode of the Trail Network Podcast, Katie sits down with fellow co-host Hilary Yang for a much-needed catch-up. Hilary may have been MIA from the mic, but she’s been everywhere else—juggling training for the Hardrock 100, directing the new Mammoth 200-miler, producing storytelling projects, and traveling the globe.They talk about:Behind the scenes of Hilary’s media role at Cocodona 250 (yes, including ramen brands and eucalyptus towels)The wild Korean hill repeats and air blastersTraining on the go—through jetlag, film shoots, and family timeThe emotional relief of finally getting Mammoth 200 permits clearedHow storytelling and racing go hand-in-handWhat she’s learned from Cocodona that she’ll bring to the Mammoth 200And why gratitude is fueling this high-energy, high-output seasonWhether you’re racing, volunteering, storytelling, or just trying to train through the chaos of life—this one’s for you.This episode is edited and produced by the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network.A special thank you to Osprey for supporting this episode. Visit Osprey.com to explore their incredible products!And a big thanks to our newest sponsor, Janji with the code TRAILNETWORK for a 10% discount on your Janji order.

May 9, 2025 • 47min
Episode 57: EmKay Sullivan and Abby Hall – The Golden Ticket Gift
In this heartwarming episode of the Trail Network podcast, host Katie Asmuth sits down with two incredible athletes and friends, EmKay Sullivan and Abby Hall, for what just might be the feel-good story of 2025. The trio dives into big life updates—most notably, EmKay’s exciting pregnancy—and the ripple effect it had on her racing season.When EmKay earns a coveted golden ticket to Western States but is unable to use it, she has the opportunity to pass it on to Abby. Together, they reflect on what this moment has meant for them personally and professionally, and how friendship, timing, and mutual respect played a role in this opportunity.Please note: This episode was recorded prior to the Canyons race, so any mentions of race plans reflect that timing.It’s a conversation about gratitude, change, and the power of community in the trail running world. This episode is edited and produced by the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network.A special thank you to Osprey for supporting this episode. Visit Osprey.com to explore their incredible products!And a big thanks to our newest sponsor, Janji with the code TRAILNETWORK for a 10% discount on your Janji order.