

EOS for a Better Business, Better Life
EOS Implementers Debra Chantry-Taylor, Adam Harris, business owners and experts!
EOS, The Entrepreneurial Operating System, can truly change your life by helping you live a better life by creating a better business.
Are you doing what you love, with people you love, making a huge difference, being compensated appropriately, with time to pursue other passions?
As a Certified EOS Implementer, my passion is helping Entrepreneurs & their leadership teams lead a better life through Traction.
Join me on the podcast as I chat to those who have done this or experts who can help you...
Learn from those who have built a life they truly love, through creating a better business.
Are you doing what you love, with people you love, making a huge difference, being compensated appropriately, with time to pursue other passions?
As a Certified EOS Implementer, my passion is helping Entrepreneurs & their leadership teams lead a better life through Traction.
Join me on the podcast as I chat to those who have done this or experts who can help you...
Learn from those who have built a life they truly love, through creating a better business.
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Sep 8, 2025 • 45min
Laurie Seymour & Curtis Williams: Getting Stronger in Business and Life with EOS
This week on Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor sits down with Laurie Seymour, an EOS implementer, and Curtis Williams, her very first client and the owner of a thriving personal training studio.Curtis shares how the pandemic forced him to adapt, offering free Zoom classes that eventually evolved into a structured, scalable business model. Laurie, who found EOS after struggling with self-implementation, helped Curtis bring order and accountability into the business through tools like the Level 10 Meeting and the scorecard. Together, they reveal how EOS has transformed Curtis’s gym into a model built for growth.The conversation also explores the personal side of their relationship, from Laurie regaining her health and strength through Curtis’s training, to Curtis finding clarity and confidence as a leader. With insights on defining core values, staying the course with EOS, and planning for expansion, this episode is a masterclass in how structure and discipline create freedom.Whether you’re running a small business or looking to scale, Laurie and Curtis’s journey proves that with focus and the right tools, long-term success is well within reach.CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.com.au ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/►Claim Your Free E-Book: https://www.businessaction.co.nz/free-e-book/ ____________________________________________ GUESTS DETAILS: ► Laurie Seymour - LinkedIn ► Laurie Seymour - EOS Worldwide ► Curtis Williams - LinkedIn► Life Techs Fitness Episode 239 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction 00:53 – Background of the Guests 01:35 – Laurie’s Journey to Becoming an EOS Implementer 05:48 – Curtis’s Introduction to EOS09:00 – Implementing EOS in a Personal Training Business 12:40 – Challenges and Solutions in Implementing EOS13:37 – Impact of EOS on Business Operations27:16 – Personal and Professional Growth27:47 – Tips for Business Owners41:12 – Final Thoughts and Future Plans

Sep 1, 2025 • 37min
Will Watrous: The EOS Tools Behind a 28% Profit Jump
In another episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor welcomes EOS implementer and marketing agency owner Will Watrous, to share his remarkable business journey. Will opens up about the stressful early days of running his agency, when explosive growth left him burnt out and barely scraping a 6% net profit. Everything changed when he discovered EOS. By embracing tools like the accountability chart and three-year picture, and partnering with an integrator, he transformed his company into a thriving, stable business delivering 34% profit. In this inspiring conversation, Will explains why profit and cash flow are more than accounting measures, they’re leadership tools. He also shares his top tips: taking regular clarity breaks, applying the systems mindset from Work the System, and remembering that everything you need is already within reach. Whether you’re a visionary overwhelmed by growth or a leader striving for balance, this episode offers practical insights to help you build a healthier, more profitable business and life. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.com.au ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ GUESTS DETAILS: ► Will Watrous - EOS Implementer ► Will Watrous - LinkedIn Episode 238 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction01:00 – EOS Journey and Initial Challenges 04:00 – Discovering EOS and Initial Implementation 05:26 – Personal Insights and EOS Tools 06:58 – Value of an EOS Implementer 15:01 – Favourite EOS Tools and Client Success Stories 19:52 – Economic Impact and Financial Education 24:58 – Impact on Team and Business Stability 28:40 – Top Tips for Better Business and Life 34:00 – Final Thoughts and Contact Information

Aug 25, 2025 • 58min
Ben Wiener: How To Build a Winning Pitch Using H.E.A.R.T
In this discussion, venture capitalist and bestselling author Ben Wiener shares his insights on startup pitching. He introduces the H.E.A.R.T. framework—Hypothesis, Enormous Stakes, Alternatives, Radically Different, and Team—crucial for compelling presentations. Ben emphasizes the importance of storytelling and empathy in business, advocating for a differentiated approach to attract investment. He reflects on his journey from law to venture capital, underscoring his commitment to supporting diverse founders. It's an enlightening conversation for anyone looking to enhance their communication skills.

Aug 18, 2025 • 40min
Debra Chantry-Taylor: Smoking Hopium – Data Scorecards and Why Everyone Needs a Number
Dive into the pitfalls of relying on misleading metrics. Discover the dangers of vanity measures and unrealistic targets, and how they create damaging illusions for leaders. Learn practical steps to establish outcome-driven scorecards that genuinely predict success. Explore the importance of celebrating both successes and challenges within a culture of transparency. Gain insights into measurable accountability that empowers teams and drives real progress.

Aug 11, 2025 • 19min
Debra Chantry-Taylor: Why Visionaries Blow Up Their Own Businesses & How EOS Stops it!
In this week’s episode of Better Business, Better Life, host Debra Chantry-Taylor dives into a challenge many visionaries face, having too many brilliant ideas and not enough follow-through. With energy and insight, she unpacks how constant pivots and unfinished projects can create chaos, overwhelm teams, and stall real progress. Debra shares how the right mix of focus, data, and discipline can turn that visionary energy into lasting results. She explores the power of committing to just 3–7 priorities per quarter, using an integrator to filter and execute ideas, and building a scorecard that predicts the health of your business, not just reports on the past. Through real-world success stories, including one business that boosted revenue by 20% while reducing workloads, Debra shows how less really can be more. She highlights practical tools like the Eisenhower matrix, clarity breaks, and leading indicators to help visionaries lead with confidence and reduce anxiety. If you’ve ever felt like your ideas are running ahead of your team or your sanity, this episode will show you how to channel your creativity, trust your data, and build a business that grows without the chaos. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.com.au ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ Episode 235 Chapters: 00:29 – Introduction 00:00 – Visionaries and Their Impact on Businesses 02:04 – The Visionary Trap and Whiplash Culture 03:11 – The Role of Data in Providing Freedom and Clarity 06:49 – Strategies for Managing Visionary Energy 10:39 – Implementing Idea Filters and Delegation 14:25 – Embracing Data and Scorecards for Growth

Aug 4, 2025 • 3min
Hermes & Apollo: A Dog’s Guide to Living a Better Life
In a lighthearted twist, this week’s episode of Better Business, Better Life sees host Debra Chantry-Taylor joined by two very special guests, her dogs, Hermes and Apollo. Together, they explore the simple but powerful wisdom we can learn from our furry friends. From Hermes’ worries about separation to Apollo’s critique of human judgement, the pups deliver big messages in adorable ways. Through their lens, Debra reflects on timeless truths: the power of living in the moment, showing unconditional love, and letting go of stress. The episode is filled with warmth, laughter, and gentle reminders to embrace gratitude, make time for play, and prioritise what really matters, like bottoms, bones, cuddles, and smoochies. Whether you're a dog lover or just in need of a reset, this episode will lift your spirits and nudge you towards a more joyful way of being. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.com.au ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ CONNECT WITH APOLLO & HERMES:► Apollo Chantry-Taylor - LinkedIn ► Hermes Chantry-Taylor - LinkedIn Episode 234 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction & Lessons from Dogs 00:10 – Be in the Moment 01:00 – Judge Less and Love More 01:31 – Always Be Grateful 01:46 – Play and Relax 02:11 – What’s Really Important

Jul 28, 2025 • 42min
Lacey Hayes: The EOS Tools That Transformed a $45M Business
In another episode of Better Business, Better Life, host Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Lacey Hayes, a seasoned EOS Implementer with a deep background in hospice care and organisational growth. Lacey shares how EOS helped scale a hospice business from $45 million to $78 million, and the lessons that apply to any growth-focused business. They explore the tools that made the biggest impact, like the meeting pulse and Level 10 meetings, and how they shifted communication and accountability across a team of over 400 employees. Lacey stresses the importance of anchoring tough conversations in the company’s purpose and vision, using core values as a compass for leadership. Together, they talk about how to spot the right people for the right seats, how to keep values alive throughout the organisation, and why external facilitators are crucial in complex settings like family businesses. Whether you're new to EOS or deep in implementation, you’ll gain actionable ideas to keep your team focused and connected to a larger mission. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.com.au ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ GUEST DETAIL: ► EOS Implementer - Lacey Hayes ► Lacey Hayes - LinkedIn Episode 233 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction 03:04 – Transition to EOS Implementation 05:16 – Impact of EOS Tools and Meetings 08:51 – Structuring the Organisation and Accountability 11:21 – Processes and People in EOS 16:43 – Using EOS Tools for Evaluation and Improvement 24:01 – The Role of Purpose and Vision in EOS 30:43 – Anchoring Hard Conversations in Purpose 33:23 – Engaging the Entire Team in the Vision 36:24 – Final Tips and Recommendations

Jul 21, 2025 • 17min
Adam Harris: Your Guide to the 2025 EOS Conference
This week on Better Business, Better Life, host Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Adam Harris to give you the inside scoop on the upcoming EOS Conference! With over 220,000 EOS users and 850+ implementers worldwide, this year’s event promises to be the biggest yet. Taking place on September 5th at Pullman on the Park in Melbourne, the conference will feature global EOS leaders, including Mark O’Donnell and Don Tinney, plus hands-on workshops and breakout streams tailored for every stage of EOS implementation. Debra also shares details on her session, “Are you self-implementing or self-inflicting EOS?”, while Adam reveals what makes this event an unmissable opportunity for business leaders. Plus, Debra and Adam share insider tips on securing discounted tickets and what attendees can expect from this powerful day of learning, networking, and growth. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.com.au ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ EOS CONFERENCE DETAILS:► Register Here ► Use DEBVIP or ADAVIP for 50% off tickets! ► Email Debra at debra@businessaction.com.au or Adam at adam@businessaction.com.au for free ticket offers. Episode 232 Chapters: 00:00 – EOS Conference Overview 02:39 – Details of the EOS Conference 04:22 – Breakout Streams and Workshops 05:26 – Event Details and Ticket Information 09:17 – Personal Experiences and Benefits of EOS 09:32 – Annual Planning and Team Building 12:13 – Celebrating Successes and Setting Long-Term Goals 14:24 – Execution and Problem-Solving 16:17 – Final Recap and Encouragement

Jul 14, 2025 • 42min
Scott Rusnak: Saying No Isn’t Selfish, It’s EOS in Practice
In this week’s episode of Better Business, Better Life, host Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by seasoned EOS Implementer and entrepreneur Scott Rusnak to talk about one of the most overlooked skills in business: the power of saying no. From launching his own software company to relocating internationally and embracing EOS, Scott shares the lessons he’s learned about boundaries, self-care, and living intentionally. He introduces the concept of Dunbar’s number - a guide for who gets your energy, and explains how clarity breaks, core values, and a bigger sense of purpose can help entrepreneurs avoid burnout and find real fulfilment. Whether you're a people pleaser, a business owner on the edge, or just looking to better manage your time and relationships, this episode will give you the tools to pause, prioritise, and protect what matters most. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.com.au ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ GUEST DETAILS:► Scott Rusnak's Website ► Grab a Copy of Scott's Book ► Scott Rusnak - LinkedIn Episode 231 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction and Guest Overview 00:15 – Scott’s Career Journey 05:53 – Transition to EOS Implementation 08:26 – The Importance of Saying No 17:18 – Practical Tips for Saying No 18:22 – Balancing Personal and Professional Life 18:40 – The Role of Core Values and Purpose 38:40 – Cultural Shifts and Personal Growth 40:06 – Final Thoughts and Future Plans

Jul 7, 2025 • 50min
Debra Chantry-Taylor: A Deep Dive into My Hard-Earned EOS Lessons
In this special episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor shares her recent guest appearance on Notes From the Executive with host Mina Amso. Together, they unpack the power of EOS® (Entrepreneurial Operating System) and how it helps business leaders simplify operations, gain clarity, and scale with confidence. Debra shares her own experiences - both wins and setbacks- while exploring what makes a truly effective meeting, why entrepreneurs often feel stuck, and how systems can create freedom rather than restrict it. You’ll hear real-world examples of the challenges business owners face and how the EOS framework brings structure, accountability, and balance. Tune in to how EOS can help you build a business that truly works for your life, not the other way around. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.com.au ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ ORIGINAL EPISODE DETAIL: ► Notes From The Executive Podcast - Debra's Episode ► Mina Amso - LinkedIn Episode 230 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction 00:50 – The Concept of a Perfect Meeting 02:35 – Target Audience and Common Business Challenges 03:07 – Emotional Moments in Boardrooms 05:05 – Entrepreneurs Feeling Stuck 05:42 – Lack of Vision and Freedom in Business 07:19 – The Role of Systems and Structure 08:46 – Turning Points for Businesses Close to Collapse 11:21 – Framework for Business Clarity 14:47 – People and Data in Business Operations 25:04 – Identifying and Solving Business Issues 30:10 – Processes and Systems in Business 36:53 – Personal Experiences and Lessons Learnt 41:22 – Impact of Personal Losses on Business Philosophy 48:48 – Final Thoughts and Contact Information