

Better Business, Better Life
Debra Chantry-Taylor & Adam Harris | Business Owners & Experts
Better Business Better Life is about one simple idea: a better business should help you create a better life.
Are you doing work you genuinely enjoy, with people you respect, making a meaningful difference, being rewarded appropriately & still having time for the people, experiences & passions that matter outside work?
Too many business owners build businesses that eventually begin to control their lives rather than support them.
As Carefrontational Changemakers, Debra & Adam are passionate about helping business owners & leaders have the conversations, make the changes & build the structur
Are you doing work you genuinely enjoy, with people you respect, making a meaningful difference, being rewarded appropriately & still having time for the people, experiences & passions that matter outside work?
Too many business owners build businesses that eventually begin to control their lives rather than support them.
As Carefrontational Changemakers, Debra & Adam are passionate about helping business owners & leaders have the conversations, make the changes & build the structur
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Oct 12, 2026 • 44min
Sonya Jury: The Secret to Making EOS Work for Your Business
Sonya Jury, a retired architect and seasoned EOS Implementer®, draws on 46 years in architecture and leadership to explore what makes EOS stick. She discusses escaping the weeds, turning strategy into action, and using the Accountability Chart to clarify roles and strengthen culture. They also explore behavioral change, celebrating progress, building trust, and recognizing when a business is truly ready to graduate from EOS.

Oct 5, 2026 • 28min
Debra Chantry-Taylor: Business Is a Game: What’s on Your Scoreboard
What can Formula 1 teach us about running a business? This conversation explores clear rules, meaningful scoreboards, defined roles and accountability. It examines why race wins do not guarantee a championship, how leading indicators reveal trouble early, and how 90-day plans help teams adapt to disruption while staying focused on the bigger goal.

Oct 3, 2026 • 35min
Hiring Hack: Finding A–Players with Rick Girard
Rick Girard, CEO of Stride Search and Intertru, is a recruiter, author, and creator of HireOS. He explores why hiring needs its own operating system, how structured interviews and company values can replace bias, and why copied job descriptions fail. They also discuss attracting A-players beyond salary, understanding career wounds, scaling values-based hiring with technology, and choosing the right co-founder.

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Sep 28, 2026 • 44min
Megan Piper: How a $3M Business Grew to $52M with EOS
Megan Piper, an EOS Implementer and fractional CFO, helped scale a technology business from $3M to $52M. She discusses moving from French teacher to Integrator, building trust through scorecards, navigating family businesses, and strengthening Visionary-Integrator partnerships. She also explores EOS for distributed teams, candid quarterly conversations, virtual meeting dynamics, and adapting simple tools across cultures.

Sep 21, 2026 • 1h 3min
Keith Greer: Stop Trying to Be Right and Start Getting Curious
Keith Greer, an executive coach and Conversational Intelligence specialist, explores how curiosity can transform leadership and relationships. They discuss the brain’s signals of safety and threat, the power of nonverbal communication, and why insisting on being right can silence teams. The conversation also covers repairing damaged trust, family business dynamics, psychological safety, and navigating difficult people and conflicting values.

Sep 14, 2026 • 39min
Debra Chantry-Taylor: The Scorecard Mistakes That Keep Leaders Flying Blind
Why do businesses often appear healthy right before trouble hits? This conversation explores early warning signals, leading versus lagging indicators, and how a focused scorecard can act like a business dashboard. Discover how to connect weekly activities to revenue, uncover unprofitable growth, avoid misleading “green” numbers, and turn data into sharper leadership conversations.

Sep 12, 2026 • 40min
Mastering The Art of Communication with Brenden Kumarasamy
Brenden Kumarasamy, founder of MasterTalk, coaches ambitious leaders to become powerful communicators. He shares his journey from accounting and IBM to building a communication education brand. They explore how communication scales with business growth, practical exercises for speaking with confidence, overcoming fear, leading at a higher level, and designing a more fulfilling life and business.

Sep 7, 2026 • 52min
Bobby Rouse: Why Picking and Choosing EOS Tools Doesn't Work
In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Bobby Rouse to explore the risks of picking and choosing EOS tools instead of embracing EOS® as a complete operating system. Bobby shares his journey from growing up on a farm in Idaho to becoming a serial entrepreneur and Professional EOS Implementer®. His experiences across management, technology & business helped him recognise the value of EOS as a practical framework for creating clarity, discipline & stronger leadership teams. A key theme throughout the conversation is that EOS works because the tools are designed to work together. Bobby explains that businesses do not change simply because they introduce a Level 10 Meeting® or a Scorecard. Real change happens when the people within the organisation change how they think, communicate, make decisions & hold one another accountable. Debra & Bobby discuss why businesses that self-implement often fall into the trap of picking and choosing EOS tools. A leadership team might adopt Level 10 Meetings or create a Scorecard while overlooking foundational tools such as the Accountability Chart® and People Analyzer®. While this can create some improvement, it rarely delivers the full transformation EOS is designed to create. Bobby & Debra also unpack the importance of keeping Scorecards simple. Using a scuba diving analogy, Bobby explains that leaders do not need hundreds of numbers to understand whether a business is healthy. They need the handful of critical numbers that tell them whether they are heading in the right direction. The episode goes beyond business implementation too, with practical advice on staying in your designated seat, using your calendar to architect your life & taking regular Clarity Breaks when pressure and uncertainty increase. Bobby also shares the “Is it true? Is it helpful? Is it kind?” framework as a useful way to challenge the stories & communication patterns that can affect both teams and individuals. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer® | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: [email protected]►EOS Worldwide Website: Debra Chantry-Taylor | EOS Implementer | EOS Worldwide___________________________________________ GUEST’S DETAILS: ► Bobby Rouse – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobby-rouse-2887613/ ► Website – EOS Worldwide – Bobby Rouse | EOS Implementer | EOS Worldwide Ep 288 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction 00:14 – The Impact of Traction 31:44 – Becoming an EOS Implementer 31:56 – Space Learning and Implementation Mastery 32:09 – Self-Implementation vs Professional Help 32:19 – Effective Data and Scorecards 41:26 – Essential Business Tips

Sep 5, 2026 • 34min
Is Your Business Ready for The EOS Spotlight? with Alicia Butler Pierre
Alicia Butler Pierre is the owner & CEO of a company called Equilibria Inc. They specialize in building operations management, specialising in sort of diagnosing, and designing business infrastructure and processes. Discover her three D's and three R's top tips in this episode.

Aug 31, 2026 • 45min
Mathis Young: The Systems That Took His Business From Struggling to Scaling
In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Mathis Young, a former dog grooming franchise owner and now Professional EOS Implementer®, to explore his journey from struggling to scaling a business.Mathis shares how he went from struggling with the day-to-day demands of running a dog grooming franchise, including managing appointments, grooming dogs & dealing with the stress of being constantly needed, to building the largest franchise in the USA.A major turning point came when Mathis recognised that he could not continue doing everything himself. Hiring his first manager, Steve, gave him the support & perspective he needed to step away from the operational side of the business and focus on growth. Mathis explains how having the right people in the right seats became a crucial part of his journey.His experience with Vistage during the challenges of COVID-19 eventually introduced him to EOS®. Although initially sceptical, Mathis discovered how the EOS framework could bring structure, accountability & clarity to his growing business. Through tools such as the Level 10 Meeting®, Accountability Chart® & Scorecard, his leadership team developed stronger communication, clearer priorities & greater ownership.The conversation also highlights the importance of asking for help, surrounding yourself with a supportive network & being willing to learn from others. Mathis shares how mentors, peer groups & the EOS community helped him achieve not only greater business success but also more peace & fulfilment.If you’re feeling stuck in your business, doing too much yourself, or wondering what it takes to scale successfully, this episode offers an honest & inspiring look at what can happen when you ask for help, build the right team & create the structure needed to grow.CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer® | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: [email protected]►EOS Worldwide: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/debra-chantry-taylor/___________________________________________ GUEST’S DETAILS: ► Mathis Young – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathisyoung/ ► Website – EOS Worldwide – https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/mathis-young/ Ep 287 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction 00:32 – Mathis Young’s Journey to Entrepreneurship 02:33 – Mathis’ Entry Into the Dog Grooming Franchise 05:23 – The Turning Point: Hiring a Manager 08:48 – Joining Vistage and Discovering EOS® 11:42 – Implementing EOS® and Its Impact 25:14 – Transitioning to an EOS Implementer®31:11 – Mathis’ Approach as an EOS Implementer® 34:31 – Challenges and Successes with Clients 40:54 – Mathis’ Personal Reflections


