

Thoughtforms Life
Michael Levin
A podcast by Professor Michael Levin exploring the frontiers of biology, cognition, and emergence. Engage in conversations about morphogenesis, bioelectricity, and synthetic life — and uncover how intelligence and agency emerge from the most fundamental levels of nature.
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Nov 28, 2024 • 1h 13min
Self-Constructing Bodies, Collective Minds: The Intersection of CS, Cognitive Bio, and Philosophy
This is a 1 hour 12 minute talk presented at the 2nd Symposium on the Philosophy of Computing at the Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México. It covers the ways in which biological computation is different from most of today's computer architectures, and concludes with a different way to think about emergence of cognition (not just complexity or unpredictability) in a way that informs how we think about biological and artificial intelligences.
CHAPTERS:(00:00) Biology, Computation, Philosophy(05:50) Unconventional Biological Problem Solving(13:50) Anatomical Morphospace Navigation(21:50) Reading Bioelectric Patterns(31:00) Biology vs. Computing(36:50) Multi-Scale Competency Architecture(45:00) Creative Interpretation, Unreliable Hardware(53:00) Patterns, Machines, Agents(01:00:00) Latent Space of Patterns(01:08:00) Exploring Latent Space(01:15:00) Future of Diverse Intelligence
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Nov 19, 2024 • 49min
Discussion with Martin Hanczyc: Minimal Models of Cognition and Active Matter Research
This is a ~50 minute working meeting between Martin Hanczyc (https://www.martinhanczyc.com/) and Michael Levin, discussing work on autonomous droplets and more generally the field of active and agential matter (physical intelligence, somatic computation, etc.) and conceptual approaches in the field of diverse intelligence. Examples of Martin's work:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/37166609
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28985113
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25525912
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Nov 15, 2024 • 54min
A Bioelectric Interface to the Collective Intelligence of Agential Materials for Bioengineering
This is a ~1 hour talk by Michael Levin, given to the bioengineering department at Northeastern University, on the topic of using bioelectricity as an interface for engineering agential materials. Companion papers are:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s44222-022-00001-9
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33826908
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Oct 14, 2024 • 47min
Embodied Minds: Discovering Diverse Intelligence through the Lens of Biomedicine
This is a ~45 minute talk given at the Imagining Summit (https://www.artificiality.world/the-imagining-summit/) on Diverse Intelligence and synthbiosis, approaching those topics via communication with cellular collectives in the context of regenerative medicine. The newer material is at the end.
CHAPTERS:(00:00) Diverse Intelligence and Goals(02:30) Beyond Discrete Natural Kinds(06:00) Framework for Diverse Intelligences(11:00) Scaling Minds, Collective Intelligence(15:30) Self-Creation of Bodies, Minds(18:30) Anatomical Order, Compiler Vision(21:30) Agential Material, Problem Solving(26:30) Bioelectricity as Cognitive Glue(31:00) Communicating with Collective Intelligence(34:30) Regenerating Limbs, Healing Wounds(37:30) Synthetic Life: Xenobots, Anthropods(42:30) Interoperability, Novel Agents(45:30) Humility, Patterns in Media(49:30) Conclusion: Expanding Sentience Idea(52:30) Acknowledgements and Funders
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Oct 14, 2024 • 1h 10min
Aastha Jain Simes & I Interview Denis Noble
This is a ~1 hour interview with the great Denis Noble (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Noble), who made seminal contributions to understanding the heartbeat and went on to contribute exciting and counter-paradigm ideas in physiology, evolutionary theory, causation, and other aspects of biology.
Some of classic Denis Noble writing:
https://www.univ.ox.ac.uk/book/the-music-of-life-biology-beyond-genes/
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/dance-to-the-tune-of-life/721483A1B5BB01E837BC8A843...
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Oct 8, 2024 • 53min
Discussion with Daniel McShea and Gunnar Babcock
This is ~1 hour conversation with Daniel McShea (https://scholars.duke.edu/person/dmcshea) and Gunnar Babcock (https://gunnarbabcock.com/) on topics of biology, evolution, information, causation, and ethics in the philosophy of mind.
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Sep 19, 2024 • 1h 8min
Unconventional Cognition Through the Lens of Cellular Collective Intelligence in Morphogenesis
This is a 1 hour 8 minute talk covering topics of collective intelligence in morphogenesis as a model system for thinking about the origin and scaling of cognition in diverse embodiments.
CHAPTERS:(00:00) Diverse Intelligence Framework(12:00) Morphogenesis Problem Solving(22:00) Bioelectric Pattern Memory(34:30) Exploring Latent Space
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Sep 19, 2024 • 41min
The Bioelectric Interface to the Intelligence of the Body: The Future of Biomedicine
This is a ~40 minute talk on the future of medicine from my perspective given remotely to students at the University of Bologna, Italy.
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Sep 18, 2024 • 46min
The Bioelectric Basis of Morphogenetic Intelligence: A Roadmap for Cancer Medicine
This is a ~45 minute keynote talk at the Bioelectricity and Cancer conference (https://cam.cancer.gov/research/bioelectricity_and_cancer_conference.htm) held at NIH in September 2024.
CHAPTERS:(00:00) What is Cancer?(13:00) Cognitive Light Cone & Cancer(18:00) Bioelectric Layer: Cognitive Glue(23:00) Bioelectricity in Cancer(28:00) Tools: Imaging & Control(32:00) Bioelectric Diagnostics & Induction(37:00) Suppressing Cancer Bioelectrically(42:00) Roadmap and Future Directions(46:00) Conclusion & Acknowledgements
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Sep 17, 2024 • 59min
The Collective Intelligence of Morphogenesis: A Model System for Basal Cognition
This is a ~1 hour talk on morphogenesis as a collective intelligence and some specifics about cognitive glue.
CHAPTERS:(00:00) Intro: Diverse Intelligence Overview(01:40) Discrete Kinds vs Continuum(03:50) Intelligence in Novel Spaces(06:00) Cells as Collective Intelligence(09:30) Morphogenesis and Agential Material(12:30) Defining Intelligence: Perturbations(17:00) Tadpole Metamorphosis Intelligence(19:30) Anatomical Homeostasis & Setpoints(21:30) Bioelectricity: Cognitive Glue(23:30) Ancient Bioelectric Networks(25:30) Reading Bioelectric Patterns(27:30) Manipulating Bioelectric States(30:00) Bioelectric Control of Organs(33:00) Planaria Pattern Memory(35:44) Two-Headed Worms & Memory(37:30) Exploring Anatomical Morphospace(40:00) Diverse Intelligence: Cognitive Light Cone(42:00) Cancer: Breakdown Collective Intelligence(44:00) Origin of Goals & Individuality(45:30) Mechanisms of Collective Alignment(47:00) Stress Sharing Mechanism(48:30) New Forms of Intelligence(49:30) Xenobots: Synthetic Life(53:00) Anthrobots: Human Cell Bots(54:30) Future of Diverse Intelligence(55:30) Conclusion and Acknowledgements
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