

Thoughtforms Life
Michael Levin
A podcast by Professor Michael Levin exploring the frontiers of biology, cognition, and emergence. Engage in conversations about morphogenesis, bioelectricity, and synthetic life — and uncover how intelligence and agency emerge from the most fundamental levels of nature.
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Feb 25, 2025 • 1h 20min
Aastha Jain Simes and I Interview Pamela Lyon
This a ~1 hour 20 minute conversation between Aastha Jain Simes (https://www.livelongerworld.com/), Pamela Lyon (https://scholar.google.com.au/citations?user=1oY1J5kAAAAJ&hl=en), and I. Pamela is a key figure in the development of a biogenic approach to mind, and we talked about her journey to understanding cognition. A few of her papers:
https://aeon.co/essays/the-study-of-the-mind-needs-a-copernican-shift-in-perspective
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1059712319871360
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Feb 24, 2025 • 30min
Discussion with Mayli Mertens on Molecular Placebos and Bioelectricity
This is a ~30 minute conversation with Mayli Mertens (Marie Curie Postdoctoral fellow at University of Antwerp, https://philpeople.org/profiles/mayli-mertens) and I on the topic of molecular placebos, bioelectricity, and self-fulfilling prophecies in medicine (the latter being the title of her recent paper: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11017-024-09677-z )
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Feb 21, 2025 • 1h 1min
Biological and Technological Information Processing: Commonalities, Differences and Implications
This is a ~1 hr talk on what is similar and what is different between biological and (current) technological information-processing systems, and the implications for biomedicine, AI, and ethics. A version of this talk with Q&A at the TPC consortium at Argonne National Lab is at https://tpc.dev/tpc-seminar-series/
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Feb 17, 2025 • 59min
Conversation 2 Between Gunnar Babcock, Daniel McShea, Mark Solms, and Michael Levin
This is a ~1 hour conversation on topics of consciousness, affect, evolution, and philosophy between Gunnar Babcock (https://cals.cornell.edu/gunnar-babcock), Daniel McShea (https://scholars.duke.edu/person/dmcshea), Mark Solms (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=vD4p8rQAAAAJ&hl=en), and I.
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Feb 12, 2025 • 1h 30min
Conversation with Richard Watson and Leo Caves
This is a ~1.5 hour conversation with Richard Watson (https://www.richardawatson.com/) and Leo Caves (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Leo-Caves, https://scholar.google.co.uk/citations?user=Oov_zsoAAAAJ&hl=en) about issues of resonance, unconventional cognition, observers, process philosophy, etc.
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Feb 9, 2025 • 1h 55min
A Conversation with Mark Solms on Life and Mind
This is a ~2-hour Q&A with Mark Solms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Solms) at the "Public conversation about their work and its implications for psychoanalysis" series of the Annual meeting of the American Psychoanalytic Association.
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Feb 7, 2025 • 55min
Discussion with Alexey Tolchinsky and Thomas Pollak
This is a ~1 hour conversation between Alexey Tolchinsky (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/alexey-tolchinsky-psyd ), a clinical psychologist and Adjunct Professor at The George Washington University, Center for Professional Psychology, and Thomas Pollak (https://orcid.org/0000-0002-6171-0810), a neuropsychiatrist and researcher working at the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience at King's College London, about issues of collective minds, psychiatry, and cognition. ...
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Feb 6, 2025 • 1h 10min
Discussion with Robert Prentner and Timothy Jackson
This is a ~1 hour 10 minute discussion with Robert Prentner (https://scholar.google.nl/citations?user=ZYcFVxoAAAAJ&hl=en) and Timothy Jackson (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=vOnot8oAAAAJ&hl=en) about Platonism and related concepts. The paper of mine that they reference at some point is: https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/5g2xj_v3; also an interesting email exchange between them on this topic is here: https://thoughtforms.life/platonism-process-philosophy-and-more-tim-jackson-and-rober...
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Feb 5, 2025 • 1h 3min
Conversation with Buck Trible on His Work on Static Allometry of Ant Castes and Emergent Cognition
This is a ~1 hour conversation with Buck Trible (https://triblelab.fas.harvard.edu/people/waring-buck-trible, https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=JLN0AT0AAAAJ&hl=en) about his fascinating work on the genetics, morphology, behavior, and sociality in ants.
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Jan 30, 2025 • 1h 10min
Unconventional Biology, Minimal Models of Intelligence, and Bio-Inspired Computing
This is a 1 hour 10 minute presentation of ideas around the architecture of biology (and how it differs from today's computational systems). Focusing on morphogenesis as a model of collective intelligence, I talk about the intelligence ratchet that results from life's need to creatively interpret information on the cognitive, developmental, and evolutionary scale. I end with some speculative ideas about Platonic space and cognitive patterns therein, which radically enlarge the set of beings.
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CHAPTERS:(00:00) Introduction: Body, Mind Symmetry(05:00) Diverse Biological Intelligence Examples(12:50) Multi-Scale Competency Architecture(19:00) Collective Morphospace Intelligence(24:00) Bioelectric Communication Interface(29:30) Rewriting Anatomical Memories(38:00) Selfhood and Collective Goals(46:00) Unreliable Substrate, Creative Problem-Solving(55:30) Exploring Novel Forms, Patterns(01:06:30) Summary and Future Research
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