

Thoughtforms Life
Michael Levin
A podcast by Professor Michael Levin exploring the frontiers of biology, cognition, and emergence. Engage in conversations about morphogenesis, bioelectricity, and synthetic life — and uncover how intelligence and agency emerge from the most fundamental levels of nature.
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Jun 16, 2025 • 57min
Against Mind-Blindness
This is a new ~1 hour talk by me on the concept of diverse intelligence, and morphogenesis as a model system with which to practice identifying and communicating with unconventional minds. This is a bit different than previous ones because I explicitly go over examples of how some of our various data on bioelectrics addresses each of several key properties of cellular collectives as *cognitive agents* navigating anatomical morphospace. CONNECT WITH ME:Podcast WebsiteYouTubeApple PodcastsSpotifyTwitterBlogThe Levin Lab

Jun 10, 2025 • 58min
Chemical AI: An Unconventional Strategy for Mimicking Biological Intelligence - Pier Luigi Gentili
This is a ~1 hour total presentation by Pier Luigi Gentili (https://www.pierluigigentili.com/) and brainstorming session about chemical intelligence and its relationship to the broader field of diverse intelligence. CONNECT WITH ME:Podcast WebsiteYouTubeApple PodcastsSpotifyTwitterBlogThe Levin Lab

Jun 6, 2025 • 51min
Bioelectric Networks as the Interface to Somatic Intelligence: Toward a New Regenerative Medicine
This is a ~50 minute talk by me (given at IIT Mandi yesterday) on bioelectricity from the perspective of both, a path to regenerative medicine of birth defects, injury repair, and cancer, and a model system for learning to communicate with unconventional collective intelligences. CONNECT WITH ME:Podcast WebsiteYouTubeApple PodcastsSpotifyTwitterBlogThe Levin Lab

Jun 3, 2025 • 36min
Conversation with Benjamin Lyons, Mark Blumberg, and Karen Adolph: Motor Development and Cognition
This is a ~30 minute conversation with Benjamin Lyons (https://benjaminflyons.com/), Mark Blumberg (https://blumberg.lab.uiowa.edu), and Karen Adolph (https://as.nyu.edu/faculty/karen-adolph.html) on the field of motor development and behavior in humans and other animals, and the ties between that field and the morphogenetic intelligence of embryogenesis and regeneration.
Suggested reading:
Adolph, K. E. (2020). Oh, behave! Presidential address. Infancy, 25, 347-392.
Adolph, K. E., Hoch, J. ...
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May 15, 2025 • 36min
Against Mind-Blindness: Recognizing and Communicating With Diverse Intelligences
This is a ~35 minute talk about diverse intelligence and our efforts to establish formalisms and methods for communicating with unconventional biological intelligences. CHAPTERS:(00:00) Expanding Mind Blindness(02:50) Recognizing Diverse Minds(05:00) Embodied Agent Origins(08:40) Anatomical Intelligence Spaces(12:40) Bioelectricity: Body's Glue(15:50) Communicating Cell Intelligence(22:30) Patterns Beyond Physics(25:00) Anthrobots: Novel Life Forms(27:30) Future Beings, Pattern Space(32:30) Conclusion and ThanksCONNECT WITH ME:Podcast WebsiteYouTubeApple PodcastsSpotifyTwitterBlogThe Levin Lab

May 11, 2025 • 24min
Scaling Intelligence in Biology, Artificial Life, and Beyond
This is a ~20 minute very rapid talk reviewing ideas around the scaling of intelligence in unconventional substrates. CHAPTERS:(00:00) Intro & Unconventional Concepts(00:40) Challenging Traditional Worldviews(01:40) Life as Continua(03:00) Electromagnetic Spectrum Analogy(04:30) Spectrum of Mind Applications(05:50) Single Cell to Mind(07:10) Agential Material: Cell Competency(08:00) Intelligence Below Cells(09:00) Multiscale Competency Architecture(10:00) Anatomical Alignment Problem(12:30) Bioelectricity: Cognitive Glue(13:30) Scaling Goals: Light Cone(14:30) Salamander Regeneration Example(15:30) Tadpole Eye on Tail(17:00) Bioelectrical Interface Methods(18:00) Rewriting Body Memory(19:00) Frog Limb Regeneration(20:30) Plasticity: Novel Organisms(21:30) Anthrobots from Human Cells(23:00) Future of Viable Agents(24:00) Synthbiosis: Recognizing Minds(25:00) Credits and ThanksCONNECT WITH ME:Podcast WebsiteYouTubeApple PodcastsSpotifyTwitterBlogThe Levin Lab

May 7, 2025 • 57min
Culture as an Additional Scale of Biological Organisation with Ivan Kroupin and Tian Chen Zeng
This is a short summary talk by Ivan Kroupin (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=XjxueRYAAAAJ&hl=en) and Tian Chen Zeng (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Tian-Chen-Zeng) and then a discussion of issues around biological and cultural multi-scale intelligence. Their longer talk is here: https://youtu.be/dYuNJSilRMo?si=gVvMV_N4pjloe0iX
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Apr 26, 2025 • 33min
Ethics and the New Biology
This is a ~30 minute talk to an Ethics class (undergraduates) about aspects of our work that have implications for ethics. CHAPTERS:(00:00) Intelligence All The Way Down(06:30) Scaling Up Cognition(13:40) Communicating With Cellular Intelligence(20:00) Freedom of Embodiment(27:40) Ethics of Future BeingsCONNECT WITH ME:Podcast WebsiteYouTubeApple PodcastsSpotifyTwitterBlogThe Levin Lab

Apr 19, 2025 • 57min
Conversation with Frank Putnam and Alexey Tolchinsky
This is a ~1 hour conversation with Frank Putnam (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=KLGgJg4AAAAJ&hl=en) and Alexey Tolchinsky (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=tiBKmrsAAAAJ&hl=en) about dissociative disorders, clinical psychology, and their applications to the cell biology of regenerative medicine and cancer.
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Apr 17, 2025 • 51min
Discussion with Michael Johnson
This is a ~50 minute conversation with Michael Johnson (https://t.co/YxAOZif0V2) on vasocomputation, stress as cognitive glue, and more generally computation and cognition in unconventional substrates.
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