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Aug 15, 2019 • 11min
Ep. 106 (Preview): Epstein Murder, Quillette vs. DSA, and Sexy Simu
Does anyone believe Jeffrey Epstein actually committed suicide? In addition to this entirely predictable piece of news, the crew of Diana, Oxford, and Mark talk about Quillette getting punked by a prankster and the whole "Chinese people think Simu Liu's ugly" mini-controversy surrounding the Shang Chi movie.
*This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers. To subscribe, please go to: www.patreon.com/planamag
TWITTER:
Diana (@discoveryduck)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
Mark (@snbatman)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
How Jeffrey Epstein Used The Billionaire Behind Victoria's Secret for Wealth and Women: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/business/jeffrey-epstein-wexner-victorias-secret.html
When Did Everyone Become Socialists?: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/socialism-and-young-socialists.html
DSA Is Doomed: https://web.archive.org/web/20190808170736/https://quillette.com/2019/08/08/dsa-is-doomed/
Asian Boss Video On Whether Simu Liu Is Considered Ugly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-6H8XfIE4o
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EFPA Opening Theme: "Fuck Out My Face" by Ayekay (open.spotify.com/artist/16zQKaDN5XgHAhfOJHTigJ)

Aug 12, 2019 • 1h 55min
Ep. 105: A Sex Worker's Worth (ft. Ron T. Kim)
Here's a really special episode for our listeners. We were going to split this up into a free and bonus part, but after the recording session we decided the entire conversation should be made free for all.
New York State Assemblyman Ron T. Kim, representing New York's 40th District (incl. Flushing) joins us in an actual professional studio to talk about a spectrum of political issues which boil down to a single question: what are people worth in this world?
From student debt cancellation, rejecting tax subsidies for Amazon and other megacorps, sex worker's right, revolutionizing criminal justice, and of course Andrew Yang and UBI. We discuss at length Yang Song, a sex worker who was victimized repeatedly by police before falling to her death during a police raid on her place of work. We also talk about the new generation of politically activated Asian American youth, and why indifference and inaction are no longer viable options.
Support us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/planamag
TWITTER:
Ron T. Kim (@rontkim)
Kasie (@kasefiles)
Teen (@mont_jiang)
Diana (@discoveryduck)
Mark (@snbatman)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Jane Doe Ponytail (NYT's irresponsible take on Yang Song case)
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/11/nyregion/sex-workers-massage-parlor.html
The Appeal's Yang Song Archives (responsible reportage on Yang Song)
https://theappeal.org/tag/yang-song/
Ron Kim's legislation denying tax subsidies to Amazon
https://qns.com/story/2018/11/13/queens-assemblyman-introduces-legislation-block-amazon-subsidies-favor-student-debt-relief/
Jacobin's coverage of the Tenant Rights Bill
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/06/new-york-housing-tenants-universal-rent-control
Sanders' student debt jubilee
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/24/bernie-sanders-2020-student-loan-debt-forgiveness-plan-1296863
Tiffany Caban concedes
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/8/7/headlines/progressive_insurgent_tiffany_caban_concedes_to_melinda_katz_in_queens_da_race
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EFPA Opening Theme: "Fuck Out My Face" by Ayekay (open.spotify.com/artist/16zQKaDN5XgHAhfOJHTigJ)

Aug 5, 2019 • 1h 14min
Ep. 104: Zhang Yingying, American Violence, and Asian Victims
Long time friend of the podcast and criminal defense attorney Kasie joins Diana, Jess and Teen to discuss the rape and murder of Chinese international student Zhang Yingying. Was Zhang targeted because she's an Asian woman? Does this fit a clear pattern? And what must be done to discourage more targeted violence against Asian people in America?
Support us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/planamag
TWITTER:
Kasie (@kasefiles)
Jess (@cogitatotomato )
Teen (@mont_jiang)
Diana (@discoveryduck)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Remains of murdered Chinese student Zhang Yingying may be in US landfill, family told: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3021288/slain-chinese-scholar-zhang-yingyings-remains-may-be-us-landfill-family
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EFPA Opening Theme: "Fuck Out My Face" by Ayekay (open.spotify.com/artist/16zQKaDN5XgHAhfOJHTigJ)

Aug 1, 2019 • 11min
Ep. 103 (Preview): Nicole Chung's 'All You Can Ever Know' Is the Type of Adoption Memoir We Need
Adoption is a complex, multi-faceted issue. Mark and Jess explore the topic while discussing their reactions to the fantastic debut, "All You Can Ever Know: A Memoir", by adoptee author Nicole Chung. They also discuss how deadly green bean casserole is and how much David French sucks.
*This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers. To subscribe, please go to: www.patreon.com/planamag
TWITTER:
Jess (@cogitatotomato )
Mark (@snbatman)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
"All You Can Ever Know: A Memoir" by Nicole Chung: https://www.amazon.com/All-You-Can-Ever-Know/dp/1936787970/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=all+you+can+ever+know&qid=1564633981&s=gateway&sr=8-1
"America Soured on My Multiracial Family" by David French: https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/08/america-soured-on-my-multiracial-family/567994/
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EFPA Opening Theme: "Fuck Out My Face" by Ayekay (open.spotify.com/artist/16zQKaDN5XgHAhfOJHTigJ)

Jul 25, 2019 • 11min
Ep. 101 (Preview): Do Birthday Parties Suck?
Birthday parties... They come in all forms, from grade-school bowling days to dorm parties to fancy dinners to, god forbid, destination birthday weekends. Are any of these worth the time, effort, money, and the risk of your so-called friends not showing up? Diana, Jong, and Oxford discuss.
*This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers. To subscribe, please go to: www.patreon.com/planamag
TWITTER:
Diana (@discoveryduck)
Jong (@calicoarse)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Slate article on how birthday dinners are horrible: https://slate.com/human-interest/2008/10/a-fine-whine-an-invective-against-birthday-dinners.html
SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS:
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EFPA Opening Theme: "Fuck Out My Face" by Ayekay (open.spotify.com/artist/16zQKaDN5XgHAhfOJHTigJ)

Jul 22, 2019 • 1h 13min
Ep. 100: Corporate Wokeness (ft. Yasmin Nair)
Our podcast has hit 100 episodes and we couldn't be prouder to have the esteemed Yasmin Nair (writer, activist, and academic) as our guest to commemorate the milestone! With Teen and Oxford, the crew discusses the corporatization of woke politics, from Disney's casting choices (e.g. "The Little Mermaid") to how the identities of political candidates like Pete Buttigieg and Kamala Harris are packaged to serve status quo agendas.
Yasmin's website: https://www.yasminnair.net/
Support us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/planamag
TWITTER:
Yasmin (@nairyasmin)
Teen (@mont_jiang)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Believe in Something by Yasmin Nair: https://thebaffler.com/outbursts/believe-in-something-nair
American Gay: Pete Buttigieg and the Politics of Forgetting by Yasmin Nair: https://www.yasminnair.net/content/american-gay-pete-buttigieg-and-politics-forgetting
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EFPA Opening Theme: "Fuck Out My Face" by Ayekay (open.spotify.com/artist/16zQKaDN5XgHAhfOJHTigJ)

Jul 16, 2019 • 11min
Ep. 99 (Preview): Modern [Yellow] Love, Pt. 2 (ft. John "Baiceps" Bai)
This is Pt. 2 of the "Modern [Yellow] Love" episode that had Mark, Teen, Oxford, and guest John Bai talking about Andrew Lee's NYT Modern Love article on the experience of dating, and then getting engaged to, an Asian American woman who had avoided dating Asian men before.
*This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers. To subscribe, please go to: www.patreon.com/planamag
TWITTER:
John (@bohnjai)
Mark (@snbatman)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
Teen (@mont_jiang)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
When a Dating Dare Leads to Months of Soul Searching by Andrew Lee: www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/style/…ut-different.html
For Asian-American Couples, a Tie That Binds by Rachel L. Swarns: www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/fashio…n-their-race.html
SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS:
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EFPA Opening Theme: "Fuck Out My Face" by Ayekay (open.spotify.com/artist/16zQKaDN5XgHAhfOJHTigJ)

Jul 15, 2019 • 1h 3min
Ep. 98: Modern [Yellow] Love, Pt. 1 (ft. John "Baiceps" Bai)
Emergency brake! We had plans to release another episode this week, but on Friday, July 12 the Modern Love section of the NYT published an article by Andrew Lee ("When a Dating Dare Leads to Months of Soul Searching), in which he talks about getting engaged to an Asian American woman who had avoided dating Asian men before. Mark, Teen, Oxford, and guest John "Baiceps" Bai talk about the underlying message of this article and what it says about the future of Asian America.
Note: "Pt. 2" will be released as the next bonus episode
Support us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/planamag
John's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bohnjai/?hl=en
TWITTER:
John (@bohnjai)
Mark (@snbatman)
Teen (@mont_jiang)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
When a Dating Dare Leads to Months of Soul Searching by Andrew Lee: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/style/modern-love-asian-racism-same-same-but-different.html
For Asian-American Couples, a Tie That Binds by Rachel L. Swarns: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/fashion/more-asian-americans-marrying-within-their-race.html
For Years, I Was Vehemently Against Dating Asian Guys—Even Though I'm Chinese by Madelyn Chung: www.flare.com/sex-and-relationsh…g-desexualization/
I’m An Asian Woman Engaged To A White Man And, Honestly, I’m Struggling With That by Tria Chang: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/unlearning-asian-fetish_n_5c547bb1e4b09293b203b7ed
The Alt-Right's Asian Fetish by Audrea Lim: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/opinion/sunday/alt-right-asian-fetish.html
SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS:
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EFPA Opening Theme: "Fuck Out My Face" by Ayekay (open.spotify.com/artist/16zQKaDN5XgHAhfOJHTigJ)

Jul 12, 2019 • 11min
Ep. 97 (Preview): Prince Epstein and the Dark Shadow of Disney
Jess explains how the myth of the Disney Princess intentionally obfuscates the reality: a world where silver-haired billionaire princes are actually rapists of children. Teen agrees. A long discussion about power, corruption and lies. Told through the dark, despairing tale of Jeffrey Epstein.
*This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers. To subscribe, please go to: www.patreon.com/planamag
TWITTER:
Jess (@cogitatotomato)
Teen (@mont_jiang)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Rebecca Kavanaugh's Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrRJKavanagh
The Gervais Principle by Venkatesh Rao: https://www.ribbonfarm.com/the-gervais-principle/
SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS:
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EFPA Opening Theme: "Fuck Out My Face" by Ayekay (open.spotify.com/artist/16zQKaDN5XgHAhfOJHTigJ)

Jul 8, 2019 • 1h 13min
Ep. 96: Fetishization of Mixed-Race Asian Women (ft. Sharon H. Chang and Annabelle Schmitt)
W're all pretty familiar with the sexual fetishization that monoracial Asian women face, but what about the unique problems that mixed-race Asian women experience? Not only do they run into the same creepiness from non-Asians, but also from monoracial Asians who covet their mixed-race features. With Oxford, returning guest Sharon H. Chang (author, activist, and photographer) and first-timer Annabelle Schmitt (writer, activist) talk about their experiences as mixed-race Asian women.
Support us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/planamag
Sharon's website: https://sharonhchang.com/
Annabelle's website: https://www.mixed-hues.com/
TWITTER:
Sharon (@sharonhchang)
Annabelle (@mixedhuess)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Far Away From Me by Jenny Zhang: https://www.rookiemag.com/2015/04/far-away-from-me/
Plan A's Review of 'Sour Heart' by Jenny Zhang: https://planamag.com/gendered-perspectives-on-jenny-zhangs-sour-heart-e38720fba4a4
Vote for the song Mark should sing: https://twitter.com/PlanAMag/status/1146072053688217600
SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS:
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EFPA Opening Theme: "Fuck Out My Face" by Ayekay (open.spotify.com/artist/16zQKaDN5XgHAhfOJHTigJ)