

On the Media
WNYC Studios
The Peabody Award-winning On the Media podcast is your guide to examining how the media sausage is made. Hosts Brooke Gladstone and Micah Loewinger examine threats to free speech and government transparency, cast a skeptical eye on media coverage of the week’s big stories and unravel hidden political narratives in everything we read, watch and hear.
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Oct 3, 2025 • 50min
Jamelle Bouie Says Your Fear of Trump Isn't Helping. Plus, Humphrey Bogart’s Betrayal.
Jamelle Bouie, an opinion columnist at The New York Times, discusses Trump's military rhetoric, emphasizing its implications for domestic policing and civil-military norms. He argues that attacks on diversity reshape perceptions of inclusion and critiques the narrative of presidential mandates. Corey Robin, a political science professor, explores how fear-driven policies silence dissent and traces the origins of Hollywood's left-wing roots through 'Casablanca.' He also discusses the long-term impacts of McCarthyism and the need for collective action against repression.

Oct 1, 2025 • 22min
Bobi Wine: The People's President
Bobi Wine, a Ugandan pop star-turned-politician and leader of the National Unity Platform, shares his gripping journey from music to politics. He reveals how a personal assault transformed his songs into powerful political anthems, voicing the aspirations of Uganda’s youth. Bobi discusses the brutal repression he faced during his presidential campaign and the importance of international attention on Uganda’s struggles. He emphasizes the need for strong democratic institutions to prevent future autocrats, urging the world to condition aid on human rights.

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Sep 26, 2025 • 51min
Trump v. Tylenol. Plus, How Charlie Kirk Became a Martyr for the Christian Right.
John Tuthill, a neurobiology and biophysics professor, discusses the impact of funding cuts and political influences on biomedical research. Meanwhile, Josh Keating analyzes how the Trump administration intertwines the war on drugs with counterterrorism policies, raising concerns about legal justifications for military actions. Lastly, Matthew D. Taylor examines the memorialization of Charlie Kirk by the religious right, framing him as a martyr and exploring its implications for political polarization and Christian nationalism.

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Sep 24, 2025 • 13min
Goodnight, and Good Luck: 20 Years Later
Discover the intriguing stories of Joseph and Shirley Wershba, who played pivotal roles in CBS news during the fight against McCarthyism. They share insights about the authenticity of 'Good Night, and Good Luck,' their secret marriage amidst office politics, and the influence of William Paley on the network. Explore the debate over journalistic impartiality in today's world, and hear a heartfelt reflection on naming their son after the legendary Edward R. Murrow. This conversation dives into the art of storytelling in journalism.

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Sep 20, 2025 • 52min
Free Speech for Me, but Not for Thee. Plus, Librarians Under Siege.
Lily Mason, a political science professor and co-author of Radical American Partisanship, discusses how political leaders can escalate or de-escalate threats of violence in today's polarized climate. Tech journalist Ryan Broderick dives into the digital radicalization linked to Charlie Kirk's alleged killer, analyzing the impact of memes and algorithmic amplification. Amanda Jones, a school librarian targeted by book-banning activists, shares her harrowing experiences and emphasizes the importance of fighting censorship to protect libraries.

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Sep 17, 2025 • 38min
Paul Offit Has Opinions About RFK Jnr.
Paul Offit, a renowned vaccine expert and director of the Vaccine Education Center, discusses the controversial shakeup of the CDC’s vaccine advisory committee by RFK Jr. He highlights the impact of replacing experienced members with anti-vaccine proponents. Offit delves into the dangers posed by misinformation on vaccines and the erosion of public trust. He also critiques new COVID guidance and stresses the importance of clear communication in science. Additionally, he reflects on how recent changes could affect future vaccine development and public health.

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Sep 13, 2025 • 50min
The Aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s Murder. Plus, the Rise and Fall of CBS.
Oliver Darcy, a media reporter known for his insights on CBS News, discusses the network's shift towards a more conservative stance under new leadership. Peter Shamshiri, co-host of If Books Could Kill, analyzes Bari Weiss's journalism and its impact on media narratives. They dive into the shocking murder of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, exploring the societal implications and ideological divisions it highlights. The conversation reveals how political violence and shifts in media power are reshaping public discourse amidst rising tensions.

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Sep 10, 2025 • 22min
Apocalypse Again
Dorian Lynskey, a cultural journalist and author of 'Everything Must Go: The Stories We Tell About the End of the World', dives into our fascination with apocalyptic narratives throughout history. He explores how fears have evolved from ancient texts to modern literature and film. Lynskey discusses resilience amidst crises, highlighting uplifting narratives over despair. The conversation also touches on cultural anxieties surrounding AI, illustrated by iconic films. Ultimately, he encourages embracing gratitude in the face of impending doom.

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Sep 5, 2025 • 55min
No, Trump Isn't Cracking Down on Crime. Plus, How Ukrainians Tell Their Story of the War.
Jamison Foser, a media critic and author of Finding Gravity, critiques how the press covers Trump's plans to deploy troops in cities, arguing that mainstream narratives fail to capture the implications. Zack Beauchamp from Vox discusses authoritarian tendencies within the right, revealing unsettling dialogues among MAGA figures about democracy. Deb Amos shares firsthand insights from Ukraine, highlighting how locals document the horrors of the war in Bucha to ensure their stories are told, thus preserving their history amidst crisis.

Sep 3, 2025 • 30min
The Viral Outrage Over Peanut the Squirrel
Jon Campbell, a reporter from WNYC, dives into the whirlwind saga of Peanut the Squirrel, whose capture triggered a social media uproar. He reveals how misinformation led to a tidal wave of backlash, affecting an innocent business owner. The conversation highlights the intricate bond between Peanut and their owner, the legal battles ahead, and the chilling effects of viral outrage on wildlife regulations. The discussion emphasizes the role of journalism in untangling these complex stories and the importance of community in conservation efforts.