
Accounting High
Accounting High is the premier practice management podcast for tax and accounting firm owners. Join us for conversations about running a modern accounting practice in the cloud. We are the next generation of accounting professionals questioning the state of the accounting profession.
Latest episodes

Jan 28, 2024 • 1h 3min
192 Teaching Bookkeepers and Tax Preparers to Communicate Better (feat. Nancy McClelland, CPA)
Episode 192
FACULTY: Nancy McClelland, CPA
CLASS: #TheGuide
TITLE: Teaching Bookkeepers and Tax Preparers to Communicate Better
In this podcast episode, Scott interviews Nancy McClelland, CPA, Owner of Nancy McClelland LLC, also known as The Dancing Accountant. The conversation covers the origin story of The Dancing Accountant, all the way to tax season in Mexico. They discuss the rivalry between bookkeepers and tax preparers, biases in the accounting profession, and dispelling perceptions versus the reality of being a professional.
Origin of the DancingAccountant
How Nancy became an Accountant
The Bookkeeper and Tax Preparer Rivalry
Challenges of Becoming a CPA
Biases in the Profession
Banding Together to Help Small Businesses
Perception vs Reality: Not Being a Unicorn
Compassion
Tax Season in Mexico
Shout Outs:
Blake Oliver, Gaynor, Nayo Carter-Gray, John Garrett, Randy Crabtree, Twyla Verhelst, FreshPAC, DigitalCPA, Quickbooks Connect, SleeterCon, Bridging the Gap, NATP
[00:02:09] Origin of the DancingAccountant
[00:08:04] How Nancy became an Accountant
[00:14:47] The Bookkeeper and Tax Preparer Rivalry
[00:17:05] Challenges of Becoming a CPA
[00:21:25] Biases in the Profession
[00:25:32] Banding Together to Help Small Businesses
[00:27:30] Perception vs Reality: Not Being a Unicorn
[00:43:56] Compassion
[00:56:26] Tax Season in Mexico

Jan 21, 2024 • 58min
191 Position Your Firm with Confidence and Patience (feat. Bilal Mehanna, CPA)
Episode 191
FACULTY: Bilal Mehanna, CPA
CLASS: #SocialStudies
TITLE: Position Your Firm with Confidence and Patience
In this podcast episode, Scotty interviews Bilal Mehanna CPA, President of Mehanna Advisors, and Co-Host of the podcast "From Zero to Millions." The interview consists of insights into finding a niche, pricing, scalability considerations, challenges encountered during growth phases, strategies for talent acquisition overseas, and much more.
Introducing Bilal
Becoming an Accountant
Finding a Niche
Pricing
Scalability
Ignition is a Decentralized Organization
Growing Pains
The Firm
Finding Talent Overseas
Benefits of Being an Accountant
Patience
Screening Clients
BOI Reporting
Accounting Podcasts
Final Thoughts
Shout Outs: Kelly Rohrs, Brandon Hall, Xero
[00:02:09] Introducing Bilal
[00:06:24] Becoming an Accountant
[00:10:13] Finding a Niche
[00:17:07] Pricing
[00:18:30] Scalability
[00:20:49] Ignition is a Decentralized Organization
[00:24:37] Growing Pains
[00:26:33] The Firm
[00:30:49] Finding Talent Overseas
[00:33:11] Benefits of Being an Accountant
[00:37:12] Patience
[00:39:21] Screening Clients
[00:41:09] BOI Reporting
[00:47:23] Accounting Podcasts
[00:53:24] Final Thoughts

Jan 14, 2024 • 56min
190 Transitioning from CEO to Chairman of the Board (feat. Ed Mendlowitz, CPA)
Episode 190
FACULTY: Ed Mendlowitz
CLASS: #Shoperations
TITLE: From CEO to Chairman of the Board
In this episode, we flip the script and Ed Mendlowitz interviews Scotty "OKR,". Explore Scotty's journey, from initial inspirations to firm growth, unveiling key strategies for client connections, niche development, and innovative billing approaches. Gain valuable insights into client engagement, consultancy services, and OKR’s.
Reminiscing
Scott's Firm
What got Teddy into all of this?
How is Scott Organized?
Keeping in touch with clients
Growth of the Firm and the Podcast
Passing Along Knowledge
Developing a Niche from a General Practice
Being a Xero Homer
Engage
What's in the future?
Consult
What to Do with Time Sheets instead of Billing
Ron Baker's OKR's
Key Takeaways

Jan 7, 2024 • 53min
189 Earning Trust with the Accountants of America (feat. Seth Fineberg)
Episode 189
FACULTY: Seth Fineberg
CLASS: #TechTime
TITLE: Earning Trust with Accountants in America
Scotty engages in a podcast discussion with Seth Fineberg, the Founder of Accountants Forward, where they discuss his journey into journalism in the accounting space, the withdrawal of Accounting Web, AI, and how Tech Companies should sell to accountants.
Introducing Seth
How Seth got into Accounting
Getting into Accounting Web
Taking on Accounting Web
The Realities of the Automated Practice
Advisory and CAS
The Fall of Accounting Web
Seth's Next Move
AI is not Replacing People
Seth's Takeaways
Client Advisory Services
Shout Outs:
Matthew May, Kenji Kuramoto, Shirrell Williams, Nayo Carter-Gray, Clayton Oates, Randy Johnston, Randy Crabtree, Acuity, Xero, Bridging the Gap, Jirav, Botkeeper

Dec 31, 2023 • 55min
188 Creating Accounting Client Avatars (feat. JJ Littrell)
Episode 188
FACULTY: JJ Littrell
CLASS: #SocialStudies
TITLE: Creating Accounting Client Avatars
In this podcast episode, Scott interviews JJ Littrell, CFO at Tuatara. The conversation spans JJ's unconventional entry into accounting through the FBI, experiences with Elliot Davis and Starmount, insights into balancing parenting and business growth, the genesis of Tuatara, managing multiple agencies under one practice, establishing an institute, similarities between accountants and dentists, considerations about partnerships, and the importance of identifying client avatars.
JJ Got into Accounting through the FBI
Elliot Davis and Starmount
Parenting versus Growing a Business
The Origins of Tuatara
Two Agencies, One Practice
Building an Institute
Creating A Community Platform with Value
Similarities between Accountants and Dentists
Partnerships
Dealing with Conflict in Partnerships
Advice for Generalist Dentists
Finding your Client Avatar
Shout Outs:
Thinkific, Ryan Reynolds

Dec 17, 2023 • 53min
187 AI Horror Stories: Shining a Light on the Dark Side of AI (feat. Ashley Francis, CPA, Byron Patrick, CPA, Korey Cournoyer, Keila Hill-Trawick, CPA)
Episode 187
FACULTY: Ashley Francis, Byron Patrick, Korey Cournoyer, Keila Hill-Trawick
CLASS: #TechTime
TITLE: AI Horror Stories: Shining a Light on the Dark Side of AI
In this podcast episode, Scotty hosts a panel featuring Ashley Francis, Byron Patrick, Korey Cournoyer, and Keila Hill-Trawick. They discuss the role of artificial intelligence (AI) in the accounting industry. The conversation touches on various facets of AI implementation, its impact on different firms, practical applications, concerns regarding security, as well as the question of whether AI will replace human accountants.
Introduction
What is Accounting High
AI the Monster - At Keila's Firm
AI at Korey's Firm
How Byron Uses AI
How Ashley Uses AI at Her Firm and Microsoft Copilot
Is AI Going to Replace Us?
Practical Uses of AI
Security Concerns and AI Hygiene
Training the Model
ChatGPT Plugins
Unique CPA Rap
Shout Outs:
Jason Staats, Randy Crabtree, Bridging the Gap Conference, Microsoft Copilot, Appstream, The Growth Lab, Otter AI, Firefly AI, ChatGPT, MailChimp, Zapier, Make

Dec 10, 2023 • 1h 1min
186 A Parable about Winning and Learning (feat. Greg & Jessica Daley)
Episode 186
FACULTY: Greg & Jessica Daley
CLASS: The Guide
TITLE: A Parable about Winning and Learning
Join us for a conversation with Greg and Jess Daley, the founders of Parable. The discussion delves into their unique journey as a couple in business, the origins of their firm, swing dancing, the integration of work and personal life, and the guiding principles shaping their company's future.
Introduction
Couple Business Pairs
How Swing Dancing Brought Them Together
Roles in the Firm
Parable
Early North Star
Roles and Coaches in the Early Days
Work Life Integration
EOS and Dance
Rock Step
Training an Integrator
Times of Chaos and Peace, The Frying Pan and Crockpot
Hard Numbers
The Future and Giving
Running a firm without Ego
Italy Expensify
Conclusion
Shout Outs:
Traction by Gino Wickman, Profit First by Mike Michalowicz, Simple Numbers by Randy Crabtree, Expensify

Dec 3, 2023 • 1h 2min
185 Go Full Send and Build Epic Sh!t (feat. Roman Villard, CPA)
Episode 185
FACULTY: Roman Villard
CLASS: #Shoperations
TITLE: Go Full Send and Build Epic Sh!t
In this podcast episode, Scott interviews Roman Villard, the founder of Full Send Finance. Roman shares his entrepreneurial journey, discussing the backstory behind his firm, its community-building aspect, and the values that drive its growth. The conversation delves into Roman's departure from his previous job, the origins of the Full Send brand, and his vision for the future of the company.
Introduction
The Backstory
The Firm
Why Public Accounting?
Long Hair
Building a Community
Origin of Full Send Brand
How Roman Left His Old Job
The First Client
Hard Numbers
Partnership and Community
Impact vs Greed
Growth Numbers
Tech Stack
The Future of Full Send
Shout Outs:
Matthew, Kenji, Acuity, Drink While You Think, Warren Buffet, Karbon, Financial Sense, Xero, Quickbooks, Gusto

Nov 26, 2023 • 46min
184 How to Say No (feat. Enrico Palmerino, Elizabeth Manso, Michael Hso, and Marianne Fischer)
Episode 184
FACULTY: Enrico Palmerino, Elizabeth Manso, Michael Hso, and Marianne Fischer
CLASS: #TheGuide
TITLE: How to Say No
In this podcast episode, Scott interviews a diverse group of accounting professionals: Enrico Palmerino, Elizabeth Manso, Michael Hso, and Marianne Fischer. The discussion revolves around their individual visions, experiences, and insights as business leaders. They share their journeys, the importance of helping others, and most importantly, how to say no.
Introducing, Elizabeth, Enrico, Michael
Vision
Enrique's Vision
Michael's North Star
Introducing Marianne the Speaker
Regretting saying Yes
Enrico on Regret
Michael's Road to 9 Figures
Selfishly Help Others
Finding a Partner
How To Say No
Shout Outs:
Josh Jeffries, Vivid Vision by Cameron Herrold

Nov 19, 2023 • 30min
183 What is Reasonable Compensation? (feat. Paul Hamann)
Episode 183
FACULTY: Paul Hamann
CLASS: #TechTime
TITLE: What is Reasonable Compensation?
In this podcast episode, Scott interviews Paul Hamann of RCR Reports. The episode dives into the complex topic of reasonable compensation and the challenges surrounding it, presents his innovative solution, and highlights the multiple use cases for RC Reports.
What is Reasonable Compensation?
Is 2/3 Reasonable?
The Compensation Issue
Paul's Solution
Reasons to use RC Reports
More Use Cases for RC Reports
Why It May Be Better to not be a CEO
More Use Cases