

Accounting High
Accounting High
Accounting High is the premier practice management podcast for tax and accounting firm owners. Join us for conversations about running a modern accounting practice in the cloud. We are the next generation of accounting professionals questioning the state of the accounting profession.
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Apr 10, 2023 • 1h 59min
123 An Accidental Accountant Playing an Infinite Game (feat. Clayton Oates)
Episode 123 | Recorded July 28, 2022
Join Scott and Clayton Oates in this episode as they discuss how Clayton got his start in accounting, the challenges of starting his own business, and how to transition from the finite game to the infinite game. You'll hear about the benefits of partnerships and the importance of choosing partners who share your values. Along the way, Clayton shares insights from his extensive reading list and offers practical advice for bettering yourself and others. This is a must-listen for anyone who wants to become a better leader and make a positive impact in their community. So what are you waiting for? Hit that play button and let's get started!
Clayton’s start in accounting
Leaving a big firm
Starting a business and being an “intra-preneur”
Trapped in the day to day
What does freedom mean?
The finite and infinite game
Life is easier when everyone is a friend
The second mountain, life happens for you, not to you
Partnerships
From the finite to the infinite
List of books
Ancient wisdom and new generations
Infinite players dealing with finite players
The big vendors and differences with them
Conference addiction and finding purpose
How to vet partners for finite or infinite
Being stuck in contracts
The “Best”
Tech and Tax, Vendor or Partner? Who works for who or with who?
App raps, giving back, and accidents
Meeting Tim Ferris
Eminem’s new album… just for Scott
Time meets Jeff Bezos
Go with the flow and control your reactions
Accepting and giving back
Project positivity
Energizing events
Playing off other’s energy
Don’t set your goals with things you can’t control
Better yourself to better others
We mindset versus me mindset
Conferences to find Clayton at
Stage fright and imposter syndrome
Amanda Aguilar
Speaking Truth
Leading the infinite game
Wrapping up and rapping up
All the Shoutouts:
Simon Sinek, Ron Baker, Brian Irwin, Tim O’Reilly, David Brooks, Liz Mason, Tony Robbins, Michael Gerber, James Carse, Marc Andreessen, Andreessen Horowitz, Netscape, Adam Grant, James Clear, Tim Ferris, Ryan Holiday, Marcus Seneca, Wayne Schmidt, Blake Oliver, CPA, Jeff Bezos, Douglas Sleeter, Amanda Aguillard CPA CISD

Apr 9, 2023 • 38min
ABC11 Tournament FINAL FOUR RESULTS SHOW
Recorded on April 11, 2023
ABC TOURNAMENT FINAL FOUR RESULTS SHOW

Apr 7, 2023 • 1h 7min
122 FP&A vs Accounting (feat. Paul Barnhurst aka The FP&A Guy)
Episode 122 | Recorded October 3, 2022
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In this episode of Accounting High, Scott speaks with Paul Barnhurst about his career in finance and FP&A. They discuss the differences between accounting and FP&A, the marketability of financial planning applications, and the influence of cloud technology. Paul shares insights on pricing, company success, and getting followers on LinkedIn. They also talk about branding and competition in the industry. Listen in to hear Paul's perspective on FP&A and his journey as a full-time finance influencer.
Paul’s number and the start with numbers
Getting started on LinkedIn
Starting his business and becoming a full-time Kim Kardashian of FPanda
The podcast content and audience
Accounting vs FP&A
What do FP&A do vs Sales
Influence without power?
All the applications and who are they selling to?
Excel hell and the marketability of these apps
Pricing the right tool
Why hasn’t Microsoft made a tool?
Google?
The market and the cloud’s influence
Company founder success
VC Money
Hard numbers for Paul’s business
Who helps accounting
More about why LinkedIn
How did Paul get followers
Posting habits
What does a work week look like?
Branding, name origin
Competition?
A rap for Paul
LinkedIn stats
Wrapping up
All the Shoutouts:
Jirav, Finmark, Clockwork, Anaplan, Salesforce, SheetRocks, Inc., Oracle, SAP, Xero, QuickBooks, Sage

Apr 6, 2023 • 1h 13min
121 Increase Your Impact Influence and Income (feat. Katie Thomas, CPA) | #SocialStudies
Episode 121 | Recorded February 13, 2023
In today’s episode, Scott talks to Katie Thomas, CPA to discuss the highs and lows of her journey in the accounting world. From getting into accounting to starting businesses, Katie shares her experiences and insights on content creation, team building, and attracting clients. She also gives tips on building confidence as a content creator and shares her personal journey in setting goals, aspirations, and failures. Tune in to this episode to gain valuable advice and inspiration from a successful CPA and content creator.
Katie’s start
Collage, getting into accounting
Unicorns of accounting
The breaking point
Getting into LinkedIn
Content creation, just press post
Content of the early content
Getting more personal on the socials
Starting a business
Hard numbers, free time
The team, contractors vs employees
Dealing with ambitious employees
Is it work or for or fun work?
How does Scott decide content?
Getting clients and attracting talent
Being a content creator and building confidence
Getting better and just releasing content
What phase is Katie in?
Goals, Aspirations, and Failures
Dark social
Choosing a platform
Who does Katie follow
Books suggestions
Being rebellious
Wrapping up
All the Shoutouts:
James Ashford, GoProposal, Ron Baker, David Barrett, Jason Staats, CPA, Anita Koimur, LiveFlow, Alex Hormozi, Grant Cardone, Gary Vaynerchuk, Rick Rubin, Mike Michalowicz

Apr 5, 2023 • 1h 4min
120 Creating a Trust Economy at Your Firm (feat. Jeff Rudner, CPA)
Episode 120 | Recorded January 23, 2023
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In this episode of Accounting High, Scott chats with Jeff Rudner, co-founder and COO of Proseer. Jeff shares his journey into cloud accounting, his experience with fractional CFO services, and the birth of Proseer. They talk about consolidating and partnering, and conversion to a C-corp. Other things covered are tech stack, pricing and services, and the importance of team structure. Join in as Jeff shares his insights on tech adoption and the future of accounting, and Scott treats us with a rap to wrap up the conversation. Don't miss out on this informative and entertaining episode!
Getting started
Getting into cloud accounting
Left the startup and getting into fractional CFO services
Consolidating, partnering, and the birth of Proseer
Origin of the name Proseer
Numbers at the merge
Types of clients
Tech Stack
Pricing and service
Getting another partner/investor
Converting to a C-corp
Structure and Firm hard numbers
The team
Equity
Xero and Quickbooks
Tech adoption
Mac and PC
Inputs, outputs, notifications
Rap
Wrapping up
All the Shoutouts:
Jason M. Blumer, CPA, QuickBooks, Sage, Ron Baker, Bill, Laurence Bernstein, CPA, Expensify, Ramp, David Barrett, Patrick Osborn, UltraTax, Karbon, AppStream, Dext, Ignition, Dialpad

Apr 4, 2023 • 1h 15min
119 Once Upon a Time: A Tax Automation Story (feat. Will & Ford Baker, CPA)
Episode 119 | Recorded July 18, 2022
In this episode, Scott and Jason sit down with Will Baker and Ford baker, CPA to discuss the world of accounting and software development.
The conversation covers a range of topics, from the challenges of tax season to making changes at a firm, including adopting a Me First mindset and cutting down staff. They also delve into the world of accounting automation, exploring the Once software and its unique features. As the conversation progresses, they touch on rebranding a business and the challenges of compatibility issues and outsourcing in the post-pandemic world. They also share insights on how to sell Once and differentiate it from other solutions in the market. Whether you're an accountant or simply interested in software development, this episode provides an inside look into the world of accounting automation and the challenges facing the industry today.
Ford & Will Baker
Texas A&M
Ford’s loss
Blaming tax season
Seeing improvements
Making changes at a firm and getting rid of 1040 clients
Me First mindset
Other partners and firm size
Cutting down staff
Once accounting automation
Why build the software?
We used to have it figured out on paper
What makes their software different
Changing categories in the software
Setting standards for your firm
Other differences… Patent police
Who’e idea was this?
Name change/Rebranding
Accounting High rebrand and other rebranding
Funko pop and magnets
Other solutions with Once
The competition
Access to data
Compatibility issues of competing softwares
What went wrong and solutions to these problems
Post pandemic issues
The outsourcing problem
How to sell Once
Rapping and Wrapping up
Tax Twitter
Rap and real music
All the Shoutouts:
Sage, AICPA’s Engage, Nick Saban, Once Accounting, Intuit QuickBooks, Microsoft Nav, Xero, UltraTax, Wolters Kluwer, Go Systems, Thomson Reuters, AccountingWEB, Will’s Twitter, Ford’s Twitter

Apr 3, 2023 • 1h 46min
118 Artist vs. Entrepreneur: A Book Report on The Creative Act by Rick Rubin (feat. Ron Baker)
Featuring Ron Baker and author Rick Rubin, this podcast covers a range of topics including creativity, efficiency in art and accounting, the role of humor, the subjective nature of value, the challenges of being an entrepreneur and artist, and the importance of paying attention to your surroundings. It's an engaging and thought-provoking discussion for anyone interested in creativity, art, or entrepreneurship.

Apr 3, 2023 • 1h 33min
ABC10 Tournament LIVE Final Four Reveal
Recorded LIVE on April 2, 2023
ABC TOURNAMENT ROUND 4 RESULTS SHOW
featuring very special guests
Guy Pearson of Ignition
Randy Crabtree of The Unique CPA
David Leary of The Cloud Accounting Podcast
join us as we discuss the results of round 4 of the ABC Tournament
Round 4 Results (to follow along while listening)
BREAKFAST BRACKET RESULTS
ROUND 4 RESULTS
GUEST DISCUSSION
FINAL FOUR MATCHUP PREVIEW

Mar 31, 2023 • 60min
117 Creating Space in Your Unique Lane (feat. Amy Vetter, CPA)
Episode 117 | Recorded January 24, 2023
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In this episode, Scott gets a one-on-one with Amy Vetter, who shares her insights on various topics related to business and personal growth. The conversation covers everything from the foundations of accounting and setting boundaries, to finding joy and happiness in life and work. Amy also discusses her own journey from one business to another, and her approach to writing books. This engaging and inspiring discussion is essential for anyone looking to grow personally or professionally.
The B3-GINNINGS
Scott’s parallels
Being a speaker and teacher
The foundation of audit and saying yes and no
The setting of boundaries
AV accounting and QuickBooks, Finding, Consulting
Moving in another direction
Finding yourself and leaving one business for another
Think like a monk
Joy and Happiness
Raps for books
Empathy vs Pity
Emotional Intelligence in the younger generation
Being a business mother
From app to app to app
Writing books
Feeling about pivoting and working with intuit
Colors
Wrapping up
All the Shoutouts:
KPMG, Douglas Sleeter, Intuit, Damien Martin, Simply Tax, Jay Shetty, Sage, Xero, Wiley

Mar 30, 2023 • 1h 34min
116 A Totally Creative Colorful Conversation (feat. Kelly Gonsalves) | #SocialStudies
Episode 116 | Recorded July 25, 2022
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Today we have Scott and Kelly Gonsalves on the show. Together, they explore the exciting and evolving world of accounting, delving into how the industry is growing and changing. They also take a closer look at the impact of shifting client bases and the challenges that accounting firms/businesses face in the age of remote work. Throughout the episode, they touch on a variety of engaging topics, from the latest trends in high school music to the role of color in our lives, they even chat about sports!
Whether you're an accounting firm owner looking to stay ahead of the curve, a business owner trying to navigate a rapidly-changing landscape, or simply someone interested in the fascinating world of accounting and finance, this episode has something for you
Colors
Tattoos and soundwaves
Who is Kelly and Creativity
Childhood and school
Growing up and not growing up
Old Internet
Old phones
High school music back in the day versus today
Totally the story
Growing the community and Twitter
Types of clients at the beginning
Shifting the client base
What does Totally SEO do?
Clients and tech-forwardness
In-person versus online
The other Kelly Gonsalves
Twitter and the Socials
The generational characteristics and different personas
Pink and Blue
Sports
The different audiences, clients versus colleagues, and imposter syndrome
Kelly’s style and Clippy
Worries and post-covid, and getting rid of the unnecessary stress
Learning to say no
Not shifting to new apps for clients
Say no to opportunity?
Money and what you want and generational differences
Rapping and Xerocon parties
Xero and Quickbooks changing lives
Firm Hard Numbers
Leading Ladies
Child break
Back to leading ladies
How they do their thing and AH March
Fanny packs
Creative outlets and business
Stage fright
Notifications
What’s next for Kelly?
Appy Camp
Intuit bubble
Colors in the hair
Looking younger, being fun, and being taken seriously pros and cons
Wrapping up
All the Shoutouts:
Totally Booked, Totally SEO, Megan Genest Tarnow, Sherrell T. Martin, Greg Kyte, CPA