
This Is Not Church Podcast
This Is Not Church podcast offers a compelling and thought-provoking exploration of the intersections between deconstruction, activism, spirituality, and the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as vital issues like Black Lives Matter and First Nations' rights. Hosted by passionate individuals who are dedicated to fostering open and inclusive conversations, this podcast delves into the complex journey of deconstructing one's faith, while simultaneously embracing and advocating for the rights and stories of the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as the fight for racial justice within the Black Lives Matter movement and the preservation of First Nations' cultures and rights. With a focus on examining the evolving landscapes of faith and identity, "This Is Not Church" provides a safe and informative space for listeners to engage with narratives of self-discovery, resilience, and transformation, ultimately encouraging a more empathetic and understanding society.
Latest episodes

Nov 20, 2023 • 54min
There Once Were Orange Groves: A Conversation With David Giles
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Sitting Under The Shade Of Another Tree edited by Matthew Distefano and Keith Giles. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with David GilesDavid Giles shows an interest in the little moments of life. Inspired by the slow cinema of Tarkovsky, and the ambient music of Brian Eno, Giles understands that people are not just their highs and their lows, but also all of their day-to-day errands. David was the recipient of the William Shanebeck Award for Excellence in Creative Writing (2020) and currently resides in Portland, Oregon. His first novel, There Once Were Orange Groves, is available now on Amazon from Quoir Publishing.You can follow David on:Facebook InstagramYou can purchase There Once Were Orange Groves on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly FaithJonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our StoriesEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Nov 15, 2023 • 1h 6min
November Rebroadcast: The Atheistic Theist: A Conversation With Jeff Turner
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Seeds OF De(con)struction by Nat Turney. Published by Quoir and Available now.In this episode we talk with Jeff Turner.Jeff Turner is a husband and a father. Jeff is the author of two books – The Atheistic Theist and Saints In The Arms Of A Happy God. Jeff is also the host of the podcast - Religionless.You can follow Jeff on:Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTubeYou can find links to Jeff's book, podcast, as well as other cool stuff on his LinkTreeYou can also find his book The Atheistic Theist on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly FaithJonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our StoriesEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Nov 13, 2023 • 1h 26min
Theological Musings: A Conversation With Dillon Naber Cruz
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by Second Cup With Keith by Keith Giles. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Dillon Naber CruzDillon Naber Cruz is an author, permaculture enthusiast, speaker, and occasional podcast guest. He holds a B.A. in history from Millersville University, an M.A. in religion from Lancaster Theological Seminary, and an Advanced Permaculture Design Practicum certificate from Oregon State University. Dillon’s work is multidisciplinary bringing in history, theology, Biblical studies, and a permaculture inspired lens to his writing and teaching. He can often be found hiking near his home in Lancaster County PA, watching sports, or grabbing a beer at The Fridge, his favorite Lancaster pizza place.You can follow Dillon on:Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTubeYou can find all things Dillon Naber Cruz related on his websiteYou can purchase Theological Musings on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly FaithJonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our StoriesEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Nov 8, 2023 • 1h 7min
November Rebroadcast: Petitionary Prayer: Real or Superstition? A conversation with Mark G Karris
This Quoircast podcast is brought to you by The Seeds Of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. It is published by Quoir and is available nowIn this episode we talk to Mark Karris.Mark Gregory Karris is a licensed marriage and family therapist, theologian, adjunct professor, ordained pastor, husband, writer, recording artist, and worship leader. He's a voracious reader, researcher and all around biophilic. He has received a master's degree in counseling through the Alliance Graduate School of Counseling in Nyack, N.Y., a master of divinity from Drew Theological School in N.J., and is currently working through his PsyD from Alliant International University in San Diego.You can follow Mark on:Facebook Twitter InstagramYou can find all things Mark Karris related on his websiteYou can purchase Mar's book on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly FaithJonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our StoriesEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Nov 6, 2023 • 1h 6min
Stumbling: A Sassy Conversation With Brandon Flanery
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by Augmented: A Science Fiction Anthology, Vol I Edited by Keith Giles. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we chat with Brandon FlaneryBRANDON FLANERY is an ex-pastor, ex-missionary, ex-evangelical who writes about the tenuous intersection of faith and sexuality. He’s conducted research on why people are leaving Christianity and is published with The Scribe, Baptist News Global, the University of Colorado, and the Colorado Springs Indy. In addition to writing, he co-founded the LGBTQ+ Christian dating app—believr—and lives in Atlanta.You can follow Brandon on:Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTokYou find all things Brandon Flanery on his websiteYou can purchase Stumbling on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly FaithJonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our StoriesEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Nov 1, 2023 • 1h 8min
November Rebroadcast: And Now, Deep Thoughts With Meg Calvin
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Seeds Of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Meg CalvinMeggie Lee Calvin (Meg) is an Amazon Bestselling Author, Wife, Mom, Speaker, Podcaster, and Coach who helps her fellow Spiritually-Attuned Go-Getters find confidence and certainty in who they were meant to be. Meg's book I Am My Own Sanctuary: How A Recovering Holy-Roller Found Healing And Power is available now.You can follow Meg on:Facebook Instagram TwitterYou can find all things Meg Calvin related on her websiteYou can purchase I Am My Own Sanctuary on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly FaithJonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our StoriesEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Oct 30, 2023 • 1h 7min
QAnon, Chaos, And The Cross: A Conversation With Michael Austin & Gregory Bock
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Wages of Grace by Brandon Dragan. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Michael Austin and Gregory BockMichaeli Austin is a distinguished philosophy professor, accomplished author, and captivating speaker. The majority of his pedagogical endeavors, written works, and public engagements revolve around the intricate realm of ethical inquiries concerning character and the advancement of human well-being. Holding the esteemed position of a Professor of Philosophy at Eastern Kentucky University, Michael’s academic pursuits encompass a diverse array of subjects, including ethics, family dynamics, sports, spirituality, religion, and technology. However, these explorations consistently maintain a central focus on character development and the promotion of human flourishing. His literary accomplishments include the publication of a notable total of twelve books. While some of these works cater to scholarly audiences, the majority are tailored for individuals possessing an interest in discovering how philosophical contemplation can be effectively employed in their daily lives.Gregory L. Bock is assistant professor of philosophy and religion and program director for the philosophy, religion studies, and Asian studies at the University of Texas at Tyler. He also serves as director for UT Tyler's Center for Ethics. He is editor of volumes 3 and 4 of The Philosophy of Forgiveness, coeditor of Righteous Indignation: Christian Philosophical and Theological Perspectives on Anger, and coeditor of the recent book Qanon, Chaos, and the Cross.You can follow Michael Austin on:Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTubeYou can find all things Michael Austin related on his websiteYou can follow Gregory Bock on:Facebook You can purchase QAnon, Chaos, and the Cross on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly FaithJonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our StoriesEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Oct 25, 2023 • 1h 34min
October Rebroadcast: Sledding Toward the Bumps: A Conversation with Amy Courts
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Seeds Of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Amy Courts.Amy Courts is a singer-songwriter, musician, writer, activist, and Seminarian based in Minneapolis, MN where she lives with her husband and son. Amy grew up in Denver, CO the youngest of four preacher's daughters and, after graduating in 2003 with her B.A. in Biblical Studies, moved to Nashville, TN where she independently produced and released two albums and toured with Jennifer Knapp and Derek Webb. After a near-death childbirth experience in 2011, she and her family moved to Minneapolis where she spent the next five years as a stay-home mom, worship leader, and singer-for-hire. In 2017, after a six year hiatus from creating and performing original music, she and her husband fulfilled a decade-long dream of co-creating and -producing a collaborative album as the duo Fireworks on Ferris Wheels for which they enjoyed critical acclaim and indie radio success. Amy also performs in a number of Twin Cities based bands, including with world-renowned guitarist Billy McLaughlin as part of Simple Gifts and Young and the Rest. In the fall of 2018, Amy was offered a full-ride scholarship to Luther Seminary in St. Paul, MN where she is currently earning her Master of Divinity in Justice & Reconciliation while working with numerous local arts-based, humanitarian, religious, and para-church organizations to address systemic injustices against marginalized communities through musical, theological, and political activism centered on economic, environmental, healthcare, and education justice.You can follow Amy on:Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Amy Courts on her websiteYou can find her music on BandCampYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly FaithJonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our StoriesEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Oct 23, 2023 • 59min
Faith And Fake News: A Conversation With Rachel Wightman
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by Jonathan_Foster. A podcast that lives at the intersection of Mimetic Theory and Open Relational Theology.In this episode we chat with Rachel WightmanRachel I. Wightman is a librarian, an educator, and a believer in finding the integration of faith and fact-checking. She is currently the associate director for instruction and outreach at Concordia University, St. Paul. Prior to moving to Minnesota in 2012, she spent two years as librarian and missionary in Kampala, Uganda.You can follow Rachel on:Instagram Twitter ThreadsYou can find all things Rachel Wightman related on her websiteYou can purchase Faith and Fake News on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly FaithJonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our StoriesEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Oct 18, 2023 • 1h 9min
October Rebroadcast: Freed Hearts Loving Well: A Conversation with Susan Cottrell
This Quoircast episode it brought to you by The Seeds of De(con)stuction by Nat Turney. he book is published by Quoir and is available now.In this episode we chat with Susan Cottrell.SUSAN COTTRELL is an international speaker whose TEDx talk has 1.5 million views. OutSmart magazine called her “The Mother of All MamaBears.” The Advocate dubbed her “our favorite affirming matriarch.” She is a prominent voice for the LGBTQ community and their faith parents who has been featured on ABC’s 20/20, Nightline and Good Morning America, on NBC News Out, and as a contributor on the Our Bible app. She is a public theologian and through her nonprofit organization—FreedHearts—Susan expresses her authentic love for the LGBTQ+ community and families; and she sees love as the healing foundation of family, faith, and community. She spent 20+ years in the nonaffirming Evangelical church, has a Master of Arts in Theological Studies, and served as the Vice-President of PFLAG Austin. Her FreedHearts Blog and YouTube videos have millions of viewers, and her books “Mom, I’m Gay”—Loving Your LGBTQ Child and Strengthening Your Faith; True Colors: Celebrating the Truth and Beauty of the Real You; Radically Included: The Biblical Case for Radical Love and Inclusion; and Be the Love You Want to See in the World are critically acclaimed. She and her husband Rob have been married for 34 years and have five children, two of whom identify as queer.You can follow Susan on:Facebook Instagram Check out FreedHearts on there websiteLike, follow and listen to Susan's podcastYou can purchase Susan's books on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly FaithJonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our StoriesEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!