
This Is Not Church Podcast
This Is Not Church podcast offers a compelling and thought-provoking exploration of the intersections between deconstruction, activism, spirituality, and the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as vital issues like Black Lives Matter and First Nations' rights. Hosted by passionate individuals who are dedicated to fostering open and inclusive conversations, this podcast delves into the complex journey of deconstructing one's faith, while simultaneously embracing and advocating for the rights and stories of the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as the fight for racial justice within the Black Lives Matter movement and the preservation of First Nations' cultures and rights. With a focus on examining the evolving landscapes of faith and identity, "This Is Not Church" provides a safe and informative space for listeners to engage with narratives of self-discovery, resilience, and transformation, ultimately encouraging a more empathetic and understanding society.
Latest episodes

Dec 9, 2024 • 1h 9min
God, Sex, And Rich People: A Conversation With Mattie Jo Cowsert
This Quoircast podcast is brought to you by Theological Musings Vol. 2 by Dillon Naber Cruz. Published by Quoir and available now In this episode we chat with Mattie Jo CowsertMattie Jo grew up the youngest daughter of four kids in a Midwest, wholesome, Christian household. She lived in Branson, Missouri. which was a lot like being on a kitschy, yet charming movie set all the time, but a movie set nonetheless. Now a professional actor and author, she's ready to book that Hallmark Christmas movie so people back home know she's really made it.You can follow Mattie Jo Cowsert on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeYou can find all things Mattie Jo Cowsert related on her websiteYou can buy God, Sex, and Rich People on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Dec 2, 2024 • 56min
Rebirth Of A Nation: A Conversation With Joel Edward Goza
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by High Minds Podcast. Taking Culture, sports, politics, religion, and entertainment to the next level.In this episode we chat with Joel Edward GozaJoel Edward Goza is a Professor of Ethics and the Director of Academic Partnerships at the HBCU Simmons College of Kentucky. In addition, Joel offers Simmons’ courses in Kentucky Prisons. Joel is the author of two books: America’s Unholy Ghosts: The Racist Roots of Our Faith and Politics and Rebirth of a Nation: Reparations and Remaking America. Joel has also published in the LA Times, The Hill, The Houston Chronicle, The Louisville Courier Journal, Religion News Service, and Salon. Before focusing on writing and teaching, Joel worked in urban redevelopment and community activism for over a decade. Joel is a graduate of Wheaton College and received his Master’s of Divinity from Duke University and a Masters in Public Affairs from the LBJ School of Public Policy at the University of Texas. When not working, Joel spends his time pestering his family.You can follow Joel on:Facebook Instagram YouTubeYou can find all things Joel Edward Goza on his websiteYou can purchase Rebirth of a Nation on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Nov 25, 2024 • 1h 5min
God After Deconstruction: A Conversation With Thomas Jay Oord
This Quoircat Podcast episode is brought to you by the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast. Burning Questions, Not PeeopleIn this episode we chat with Thomas Jay OordThomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He is an award-winning author or editor of more than thirty books and an award-winning professor. Oord directs the Northwind Theological Seminary doctoral program in Open and Relational Theology and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, issues in science and religion, and freedom for transformation. He has been president of several scholarly societies and lectures at institutions, events, and churches around the globe.You can follow Thomas Jay Oord on:Facebook Instagram YouTube TikTok ThreadsYou can find all things Thomas Jay Oord related on his websiteYou can purchase God After Deconstruction on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Nov 18, 2024 • 1h 13min
Disarming Leviathan: A Conversation With Caleb Campbell
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast. Burning questions, not people.In this episode we chat with Caleb Campbell Pastor Campbell graduated Summa Cum Laude with a Masters of Arts in Ministry from Phoenix Seminary in 2015 and is currently a doctoral student at Fuller Theological Seminary. He has served at Desert Springs Bible Church, in Phoenix, AZ since 2006, serving as Lead Pastor since 2015. He also serves on the board of United Pastors of Arizona and as the state-wide regional director of the Surge Network. He has spoken at events hosted by Acts 29, African American Christian Clergy Coalition, the Surge Network, Grand Canyon University, Converge Arizona, Young Life and Phoenix SeminaryYou can follow Caleb on:Facebook Instagram Check out the website for Caleb's church Desert Springs Bible ChurchYopu can purchase Disarming Leviathan on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Nov 11, 2024 • 58min
Confronting Sexism In The Church: A Conversation With Heather Matthews
This Quoircast podcast episode id brought to you by the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast. Burning questions, not peopleIn this episode we chat with Heather MatthewsThe Rev. Dr. Heather Matthews is the Doctor of Ministry Program Manager at Wheaton College Graduate School. Dr. Matthews has also worked as a pastor, church planter, non-profit leader, and global worker for over twenty years. Heather has a D.Min. from Fuller Seminary, an M.A. in Educational Ministry and an M.A. in Counseling Ministry from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, and a B.S. in Biomedical Engineering from Northwestern University in Evanston, IL.Heather’s area of expertise is women in church leadership. She is the author of Confronting Sexism in the Church: How We Got Here and What We Can Do About It published by InterVarsity Press.You can follow Heather on:Facebook InstagramYou can find all things Heather Matthews related on her websiteYou can purchase Confronting Sexism In The Church at Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Nov 4, 2024 • 1h 8min
Paul The Pharisee: A Conversation With John Dominic Crossan
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the High Minds Podcast. Welcome to High Minds, the podcast where hosts Andy Colenzo and Matthew J. Distefano take culture, sports, politics, religion, and entertainment to the next level.In this episode we chat with John Dominic CrossanJohn Dominic Crossan, professor emeritus at DePaul University, is widely regarded as the foremost historical Jesus scholar of our time. He is the author of several bestselling books, including The Historical Jesus, How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian, God and Empire, Jesus: A Revolutionary Biography, The Greatest Prayer, The Last Week, and The Power of Parable. He lives in Minneola, Florida.You can follow John Dominic Crossan on:FacebookYou can purchase Paul The Pharisee on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage FundamentalistEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Oct 28, 2024 • 1h 3min
A New Way Of Seeing: A Conversation With Pierce Marks
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Too by Matthew Distefano. Published by Quoir and is available now.In this episode we chat with Pierce MarksPierce Alexander Marks is an Eastern Orthodox philosopher and photographer out of Washington. He holds an M.A. in Philosophy. His main research interests are in Existential-Metaethics, Philosophy of Religion, and Confirmation Theory.You can follow Pierce on:FacebookYou can purchase A New Way Of Seeing on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage FundamentalistEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Oct 21, 2024 • 1h 5min
We Have Ruined God: A Conversation With Sheri Pallas
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Too by Matthew Distefano. Published by Quoir and available nowIn this episode we chat with Sheri PallasRev. Dr. Sheri Pallas focuses on dispelling the hate and exclusivity caused by religion, addressing misinformation, and healing religious trauma. She fights for the marginalized, disenfranchised, and abandoned. Now, love is her religion, peace is her intention, and social justice is her goal. Sheri hosts a weekly live stream, Fireside Creators, discussing tough topics and changing the world one conversation at a time.You can follow Sheri on:Facebook Instagram TikTok You can find all things Sheri Pallas related on her websiteSubscribe to Sheri's YouTube podcast Fireside CreatorsYou can purchase We Have Ruined God on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage FundamentalistEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Oct 14, 2024 • 1h 2min
Alien Phonics Primer: A Conversation With Darrell Epp
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Mr. Bingley: Just As A Gentlemen Ought To Be by Brandon Dragan. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Darrell EppDarrell Epp's poems have appeared in over 130 magazines, including Poetry Ireland, Exile, Queen's Quarterly, Dalhouse Review, and The Fiddlehead. He lives in Ward 3 in Hamilton, Ontario and is inspired by it daily.You can follow Darrel on:FacebookYou can finf all things Darrell Epp related on his websiteYou can purchase Alien Phonics Primer on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage FundamentalistEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Oct 7, 2024 • 58min
Dirt, Shame, Status: A Conversation With Thomas Kazen
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Happy Hour Podcast. For some serious sacred cow-tipping, there’s nothing better than spending an hour of your time with us.In this episode we chat with Thomas KazenThomas Kazen is professor and research chair of biblical studies at Stockholm School of Theology, University College Stockholm. He has authored numerous books and articles in English and Swedish, including Moral Infringement and Repair in Antiquity and Impurity and Purification in Early Judaism and the Jesus Tradition.You can purchase Dirt, Shame, Status on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage FundamentalistEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!