
This Is Not Church Podcast
This Is Not Church podcast offers a compelling and thought-provoking exploration of the intersections between deconstruction, activism, spirituality, and the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as vital issues like Black Lives Matter and First Nations' rights. Hosted by passionate individuals who are dedicated to fostering open and inclusive conversations, this podcast delves into the complex journey of deconstructing one's faith, while simultaneously embracing and advocating for the rights and stories of the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as the fight for racial justice within the Black Lives Matter movement and the preservation of First Nations' cultures and rights. With a focus on examining the evolving landscapes of faith and identity, "This Is Not Church" provides a safe and informative space for listeners to engage with narratives of self-discovery, resilience, and transformation, ultimately encouraging a more empathetic and understanding society.
Latest episodes

Feb 17, 2025 • 1h 8min
The Atma Male: A Conversation With Christopher Stubbs
The Quoircast podcast episode is broght to you by Mornings With Schleiemacher by Chad Bahl. Published by Quoir and available now.In the episode we chat withg Christopher StubbsChristopher John Stubbs, the founder of The Wolf Pack and The Men of Sovereignty, has been a men’s empowerment coach since 2006. His expertise and pursuit of greatness as a husband, father, businessman, and thought leader have tremendously blessed his life and the lives of many others. Meet and become your higher self and create an amazing life aligned with that version of you by connecting with him todayYou can connect with Christopher on:Facebook Instagram YouTube TikTokYou can find all things Christopher Stubbs related on his websiteYou can purchase The Atma Male on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Feb 10, 2025 • 1h 5min
Knock At The Sky: A Conversation With Liz Charlotte Grant
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Safer Than The Known Way by Maria Francesca French. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Liz Charlotte GrantLiz Charlotte Grant is an award-winning nonfiction writer based in Colorado, USA. Her Substack newsletter, the Empathy List, has received recognition from the Webby Awards and the Best of the Church Press Awards. Her essays have won 3rd place in Dappled Things magazine’s Jacques Maritain Prize for Nonfiction (in 2019 and 2022), and she's also been awarded two Collegeville Institute residencies. Her op-eds and stories have also been published in outlets such as the Huffington Post, Religion News Service, Hippocampus Magazine, Brevity, Sojourners, the Christian Century, Christianity Today, US Catholic, National Catholic Reporter, and more. Her debut nonfiction book, Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis After Losing Faith in the Bible, releases with Eerdmans Publishing Co. on January 7, 2025.You can connect with Liz on:Facebook Instagram ThreadsYou can find all things Liz Charloote Grant related on her websiteYou can purchase Knock At The Sky on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Feb 3, 2025 • 1h 3min
The Quest For Thin Places: A Conversation With Dana Hicks
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Story Of Christianity Told As Good News For All by Ric Machuga. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Dana Robert HicksDana Robert Hicks is an Amazon best-selling author, public theologian, and ecclesiastical disrupter whose writings revolve around the themes of culture, change, and spirituality. For over 30 years, he served as a church planter, pastor, university professor, and leadership developer. He now calls Phoenix, Arizona home where he likes to golf, ride his road bicycle, find the perfect Mexican food, and obsess a little too much about the National League Champion Arizona Diamondbacks. He is the President of The Open Table Network - a progressive network that ordains faith leaders so they can be people of love within communities of love. He is also the Chief Operating Officer for Azura - a social services agency that exists to alleviate poverty in the State of Arizona.You can connect with Dana Hicks on:Facebook You can find all things Dana Hicks related on his websiteYou can purchase The Quest For Thin Places: How To Find Spirituality After Deconstruction on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Jan 27, 2025 • 1h 3min
Fire In The Whole: A Conversation With Robert Callahan
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Reconstructionist by Jonathan Foster. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Robert CallahanRobert is a prolific writer and accomplished attorney, dedicated to his practice at Callahan & King, PLLC in the heart of Texas. In 2020, Robert was named Lawyer of the Year by the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyers' Association. He earned a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science from Gonzaga University and a Juris Doctorate at Baylor University School of Law where he serves as an adjunct professor of Integrating Faith and Legal Practice. With an undeniable talent for blending humor and insight, he takes the spotlight in the arena’s three-ring circus of law, race, and religion. Robert’s prowess extends beyond his legal expertise; he’s also a second-degree black belt in the venerable art of Snark. Together with his wife, he revels in their interracial love story, a source of inspiration that has blessed them with three wonderful children, three insistent canine companions, and a mountain of student loan debt.You can connect with Robert Callahan on:Facebook Instagram YouTube TikTokYou can purchase Fire In The Whole on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Jan 20, 2025 • 1h 2min
Honoring Her Journey: A Conversation With Leslie Nease
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Drugs and Jesus: Faith Meets Harm Reduction by Joshua Lawson. Published by Quoir and available nowIn this episode we chat with Leslie NeaseLeslie Nease, formerly recognized as Sister Christian from Survivor China, boasts a multifaceted background as a former Christian Radio Show Host, Speaker, and Writer specializing in women's ministry. Transitioning from her prominent role in faith-based media, Leslie embarked on a profound journey of deconstruction, reevaluating her former faith tradition. Today, she extends her expertise and empathy to others navigating similar paths through her podcast, "Honoring the Journey," and her coaching enterprise, dedicated to guiding individuals through life and faith transitions.You can follow Leslie on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeListen and follow Leslie's podcast Honoring The JourneyYou can purchase Honoring the Journey: The Deconstruction of Sister Christian on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Jan 13, 2025 • 1h 1min
The Black Utopians: A Conversation With Aaron Robertson
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Unless a Seed Falls to the Ground: Welcoming the Death of the Whiteness Gospel by D.T. Bryant. Published by Quoir and Available January 14thIn this episode we chat with Aaron RobertsonAaron Robertson is a writer, an editor, and a translator of Italian literature. His translation of Igiaba Scego’s Beyond Babylon was short-listed for the 2020 PEN Translation Prize and the National Translation Award, and in 2021 he received a National Endowment for the Arts grant. His work has appeared in The New York Times, The Nation, Foreign Policy, n+1, The Point, and Literary Hub, among other publications. He lives in Brooklyn, New York.You can find all things Aaron Robertson related on his websiteYou can purchase The Black Utopians: Searching for Paradise and the Promised Land in America on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Jan 6, 2025 • 1h 3min
Making Room: A Conversation With Carl Siciliano
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Too by Matthew J. Distefano. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Carl SicilianoCarl Siciliano is a nationally recognized advocate and provider for homeless LGBTQ youth. In 2002, Siciliano founded the Ali Forney Center (AFC), which has grown to become the nation’s largest and most comprehensive housing program for homeless LGBTQ youth. His work has been featured by NPR, CNN, The Daily Show, and New York magazine. His writing has appeared in HuffPost, The Advocate, and The New York Times.You can connect with Carl on:Facebook Instagram ThreadsCheck out the Ali Forney Center WebsiteYou can purchase Making Room on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Dec 30, 2024 • 1h 5min
Judaism Is About Love: A Conversation With Rabbi Shai Held
This Quircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Theological Musings Volume II by Dillon Naber Cruz. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Rabbi Shai HeldRabbi Shai Held-- philosopher, theologian, and Bible scholar-- is President and Dean at the Hadar Institute. He received the prestigious Covenant Award for Excellence in Jewish Education, and has been named multiple times by Newsweek as one of the fifty most influential rabbis in America and by the Jewish Daily Forward as one of the fifty most prominent Jews in the world. Rabbi Held is the author of Abraham Joshua Heschel: The Call of Transcendence (2013), The Heart of Torah (2017), and Judaism is About Love (2024) and he is the host of Hadar's newest podcast, Answers WithHeld.You can follow Rabbi Shai Held on:FacebookCheck out His Podcast Answers WithHeldYou can purchase Judaism Is About Love at Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Dec 23, 2024 • 57min
The Great Search: A Conversation With John Philip Newell
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by What Can't Be Hidden by Branon Andress. Published by Quoir and available nowIn this episode we chat with John Philip NewellJohn Philip Newell is a renowned Celtic teacher and author known for his spirituality teachings that inspire a reawakening to the sacredness of Earth and humanity. Canadian-born and Scottish, he lives with his wife Ali in the Findhorn ecovillage in Scotland. Founder of the Earth & Soul initiative, he teaches internationally, leads pilgrimages on Iona, and has authored over fifteen books, including the award-winning Sacred Earth Sacred Soul. His upcoming book, The Great Search (August 2024), explores humanity’s spiritual yearnings amidst religion’s decline. A self-described “wandering teacher,” he integrates Celtic poetic and scholarly traditions with spiritual, ecological, and political awareness. Newell relinquished his Church of Scotland ordination in 2020 but remains a “grateful son of the Christian household” engaging with diverse spiritual wisdom. He has received accolades like the Contemplative Voices Award and the Sacred Universe Award for his contributions to spirituality and ecological compassion.You can follow John Philip Newell on:Facebook Instagram YouTubeYou can find all things John Phillip Newell related on his websiteYou can purchase The Great Search on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Dec 16, 2024 • 1h 2min
American Christian Nationalism: A Conversation With Michael Austin
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by God, Sex, And Rich People by Mattie Jo Cowsert. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Michael AustinMichael W. Austin is Foundation Professor of Philosophy at Eastern Kentucky University and Bonhoeffer Senior Fellow of the Miller Center for Interreligious Learning and Leadership of Hebrew College. He has published twelve books, most recently Humility: Rediscovering the Way of Love and Life in Christ and QAnon, Chaos, and the Cross: Christianity and Conspiracy Theories.You can follow Michael Austin on:Facebook Instagram YouTubeYou can find all thing Michael Austin related on his websiteYou can purchase American Christian Nationalism: Neither American Nor Christian on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!