
This Is Not Church Podcast
This Is Not Church podcast offers a compelling and thought-provoking exploration of the intersections between deconstruction, activism, spirituality, and the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as vital issues like Black Lives Matter and First Nations' rights. Hosted by passionate individuals who are dedicated to fostering open and inclusive conversations, this podcast delves into the complex journey of deconstructing one's faith, while simultaneously embracing and advocating for the rights and stories of the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as the fight for racial justice within the Black Lives Matter movement and the preservation of First Nations' cultures and rights. With a focus on examining the evolving landscapes of faith and identity, "This Is Not Church" provides a safe and informative space for listeners to engage with narratives of self-discovery, resilience, and transformation, ultimately encouraging a more empathetic and understanding society.
Latest episodes

Jun 26, 2023 • 1h 10min
Bring It Home: A Conversation With Matt Kendziera
This Quoircast Podcast episode it brought to you by God Speaks by Gabriel Gordon. Published by Quoir and is available now.In this episode we talk to Matt KendzieraMatt Kendziera is a full-time speaker, podcaster, writer, and creator. He is the host of the Chasing Goodness podcast, engaging authors, activists, and influencers on questions that most people run from. He's also a collaborator with several other incredible organizations such as Fierce Freedom, Rachel's Challenge, Ashoka, Celtic Way, and Soularize. Matt currently lives in rural Wisconsin with the love of his life, Suzie, and his two teenage children.You can follow Matt Kendziera on :Facebook InstagramYou can find all things Matt Kendziera related on his WebsiteCheck out Matt's podcast on Apple PodcastsYou can purchase Matt's book Bring it Home on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates AnonymousIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild OliveEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Jun 21, 2023 • 1h 10min
Pride Rebroadcast - In The Margins: A Conversation With Father Shannon Kearns
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Church Can Go to Hell by Desimber Rose, published by Quoir, and is available now.In this episode we chat with Father Shannon Kearns.Shannon TL Kearns is a transgender man who believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. He's the co-founder of QueerTheology.com, which has reached more than a million people all over the world through videos, articles, and online courses and community. He was the founder and Artistic Director of Uprising Theatre Company in Minneapolis. Shannon is a recipient of the Playwrights’ Center Jerome Fellowship in 20/21 and he was a Lambda Literary Fellow for 2019 and a Finnovation Fellow for 2019/2020. You can connect with Father Shannon on:Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTokFind all things Father Shannon Kearns related at his websiteCheck out the website for Queertheology.comYou can buy Shannon's book on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates AnonymousIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild OliveEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Jun 19, 2023 • 1h 2min
Defending Democracy From Its Christian Enemies: A Conversation With David Gushee
This Quoircast Podcast episode it brought to you by Sola Deus by Keith Giles. Published by Quoir and available now.In This Episode we talk to David GusheeDr. David P. Gushee (PhD, Union Theological Seminary, New York) is Distinguished University Professor of Christian Ethics at Mercer University, Chair of Christian Social Ethics at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, and Senior Research Fellow, International Baptist Theological Study Centre. Gushee is the elected Past-President of both the American Academy of Religion and the Society of Christian Ethics, signaling his role as one of America’s leading Christian ethicists. He is the author, co-author, editor, or co-editor of more than 27 books and approximately 175 book chapters, journal articles, and reviews. His most recognized works before 2014 include Righteous Gentiles of the Holocaust, Kingdom Ethics, The Sacredness of Human Life. With his 2014 book Changing Our Mind and then After Evangelicalism, he has been charting a theological course for post-evangelical Christians, a course he more personally relates in his memoir, Still Christian, and subsequently maps out a new approach to Christian ethics in the accessible Introducing Christian Ethics. Altogether his books have sold over 100,000 copies and been translated into a dozen languages. You can follow David Gushee on:Facebook Twitter InstagramYou can find all things David Gushee related on his websiteYou can preorder Defending Democracy From Its Christian Enemies on Amazon.com It will release October 3, 2023You can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates AnonymousIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild OliveEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Jun 14, 2023 • 1h 9min
Pride Rebroadcast - F**K Off God: A Brutally Honest Conversation With PK Langley
This Quoircast Podcast episode it brought to you by Go Wide:Reimagining The Landscape Of Theology - by Martha Elias Downey. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we talk with PK Langley.PK Langley is married to her wife and best friend of 22 years, Ashley. They have a son and daughter in love and a lovely grandson. PK is an ordained pastor who spent 30 years in church ministry and as a senior pastor. She has travelled internationally, preaching and teaching conferences to crowds in the thousands. She is an author and is currently pursuing her licensure as a mental health clinician. PK is passionate about seeing people find their distinction in life. PK is also a healer and functions in gifts that help dislodge those things that prevent people from finding their true selves.You can follow PK on:Facebook Twitter InstagramYou can find PK's blog posts on PatheosYou can Purchase PK's book on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates AnonymousIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild OliveEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Jun 12, 2023 • 1h 2min
Between Mercy And Me: A Conversation With Craig Lamar Brown and Andrea Summer
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Used To Go To Church: Rethinking God On The Frontlines Of Life's Tragedies - By Nick Vleisdes - Published by Quoir and availalbe now on Amazon.comIn This episode we chat with Craig Lamar Brown and Andrea Summer about thier upcoming movie - Between Mercy and MeCraig Lamar Brown is a multi-talented film producer, writer and director hailing from Detroit. He is the founder of Brown Brown Films, a production company dedicated to creating inspirational and artistically captivating stories. Craig's passion for storytelling began to take shape in his high school years. Then his versatility was showcased in David Leo Schultz's Ragamuffin Trilogy, God's Fool, where he produced and played the leading role. Today, Craig crafts from behind the camera, making his directorial debut film, Between Mercy and Me, an award-winning film. Craig currently resides in Cincinnati with his wife Caitlin and their five daughters where they enjoy the outdoors, building community and creating. Andrea Summer is a Cincinnati-based singer-songwriter, music producer and actress. She is a passionate creative collaborator and mother of three. Beyond her personal music releases, she has co-created and performed in powerful live experiences, such as The Awaited Show (2007-2019). In 2021 she co-wrote and starred in the film Between Mercy And Me. She also wrote and co-produced the original, award-winning soundtrack and score. Between Mercy and Me is her first feature-length project.You can connect with both Craig and Andrea on InstagramYou can connect with Between Mercy and Me on:Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTubeYou can find all things Between Mercy and Me related on the websiteYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates AnonymousIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild OliveEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Jun 7, 2023 • 1h 18min
Safer Than The Known Way: A Conversation With Maria Francesca French
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Happy Hour. Whose tagline is burning questions not people.In this episode we chat with Maria Francesca FrenchAs a post-Christian thinker and writer, Maria Francesca French has spent the tenure of her career in theological education as both professor and administrator, holding two MAs and a DMin. Maria has worked in innovative church contexts, planting, and denominational leadership focused on the intersections of faith and culture. Offering new forums for faith engagement and theological imagination that are viable and sustainable for an uncertain future, exploring Radical Theology and post-theist thought for the present and future of faith. Her new book Safer Than The Known Way is available now.You can connect with Maria on:Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTokYou can find all things Maria Francesca French related on her websiteYou can purchase Maria's book Safer Than The Known Way on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild OliveEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

Jun 5, 2023 • 1h 6min
Everything All At Once: A Conversation With Steph Catudal
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by the Awaken 2023 Conference - A safe place to deconstruct your faith. Join us June 9th and 10thIn This episode we chat with Steph CatudalSteph Catudal is atrained interpersonal mediator, Steph has a Masters degree in Media, Peace and Conflict studies and has worked as an Assistant Professor in Media and Peacebuilding. Though she was born and raised in Montreal, Quebec, Steph is a beach nomad at heart, and spent most of her pre-motherhood life traveling around Guatemala, Hawaii, Costa Rica and Brazil. She currently lives with her husband, three daughters and one fluffy Pomeranian.You can connect with Steph on: Instagram You can find all things Steph related on her website You can purchase Everything All At Once on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates AnonymousIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild OliveEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

May 29, 2023 • 1h 4min
The Qur'an A Contemporary Understanding: A Conversation With Safi Kaskas
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Religious Refugees: (De)Constructing Toward Spiritual And Emotional Healing by Mark Karris, published by Quoir. The book is available now.In this episode we chat with Safi KaskasSafi Kaskas is an administrator in the managerial sciences with over 40 years of broad-based experience in strategic planning, leadership and business ethics with an emphasis on strategic management in the corporate and academic worlds. He is a co-founder of East West University in Chicago, Illi., and was elected as President of its Board of Directors from 1979 – 2005. As the Founder and President of Strategic Edge Management Consultants, Dr. Kaskas helped many mid-level and large corporations successfully develop their business portfolios. His consultant firm focused on strategic development within the health care industry and founded the American Strategic Healthcare Management Company (ASHM) which owns diagnostic centers in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. In addition to his focus on strategic management sciences, Dr. Kaskas has studied Abrahamic religions and lectured throughout the US and Saudi Arabia on subjects related to Islam, interfaith and reconciliation between Evangelicals and American Muslims.You can connect with Safi Kaskas on:Facebook Twitter InstagramYou can find all things Safi Kaskas related on his websiteYou can purchase Safi's books on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates AnonymousIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild OliveEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

May 22, 2023 • 1h 6min
Inside The Evangelical Movement: A Conversation With Jon Ward
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by the Awaken 2023 Conference - A safe place to deconstruct your faith. Join us June 9th and 10thIn this episode we chat with Jon WardJon Ward is senior political correspondent for Yahoo News, author of "Camelot's End: Kennedy v Carter and the Fight that Broke the Democratic Party" (Twelve Books, 2019), and host of “The Long Game” podcast. He has covered American politics and culture for two decades, as a city desk reporter in Washington D.C., as a White House correspondent who traveled aboard Air Force One to Africa, Europe and the Middle East, and as a national affairs correspondent who has traveled the country to write about two presidential campaigns and the ideas and people animating our times. He has been published in The Washington Post, The New Republic, Politico Magazine, Vanity Fair, The Huffington Post, and The Washington Times.You can connect with Jon Ward on:Facebook Twitter InstagramYou can find all things Jon Ward related on hisYou can purchase Testimony on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates AnonymousIdeas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild OliveEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

May 8, 2023 • 1h 13min
The Other Evangelicals: A Conversation With Isaac Sharp
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Wild Olive. Where we host game changing conversations about literature culture and the Bible.
In this episode we chat with Isaac Sharp
Isaac B. Sharp is director of online and part-time programs and visiting assistant professor at Union Theological Seminary in the City of New York. He is the coeditor of Evangelical Ethics: A Reader in the Library of Theological Ethics series as well as Christian Ethics in Conversation.
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