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Upgrade looks at how technology shapes our lives, from the devices in our hands and pockets to the streaming services that keep us entertained. Hosted by Jason Snell and Myke Hurley.
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Mar 24, 2025 • 1h 49min
556: This Photo Is Not 2000 Years Old
Stephen Hackett, co-founder of Relay and host of Connected and Mac Power Users, joins to discuss a variety of tech trends. They dive into the impact of A.I. on society and privacy concerns, alongside EU regulations for enhanced device interoperability. Stephen shares insights on Apple's innovative silicon chips and the ambitious integration of cameras into smartwatches. The hosts also engage in a streaming device showdown, comparing Apple TV to other platforms while dissecting the challenges of ads in viewing experiences.

Mar 17, 2025 • 2h 12min
555: What You Are Is What You Ship
John Siracusa, a regular guest known for his sharp insights on Apple tech, dives into a range of fascinating topics. He discusses the upcoming Apple interface redesigns and the hurdles of Siri's management, highlighting ongoing AI struggles. Siracusa critiques the new MacBook Air and Mac Studio, emphasizing design versus usability. The conversation touches on the challenges in the user experience and the need for thoughtful technology integration, while also reflecting on Apple's market strategy and leadership accountability.

Mar 10, 2025 • 2h 28min
554: Level Zero Promise
John Gruber, the insightful mind behind Daring Fireball and a prominent voice in tech criticism, joins for a lively discussion about Apple's recent developments. They delve into the delays of key AI features like a personalized Siri, sparking concerns among users. Gruber also analyzes the implications of regulatory pressures shaping Apple's App Store practices and the significance of emerging markets like Brazil. Conversations shift to exciting new Mac hardware and how recent innovations test the waters against competitors like NVIDIA.

Mar 3, 2025 • 1h 32min
553: The Apple Monument
Jason and Myke figure out which five Apple products should be depicted on a (hypothetical) monument to the history of the influential tech company.
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Links and Show Notes: Recorded January 31, 2025.
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Feb 24, 2025 • 1h 60min
552: Table for Six
Casey Liss, known for his expertise in technology and contributions to the Analog(ue) podcast, joins the discussion on Apple's latest advancements. They dive into the anticipated features of the iPhone 16e and 17, exploring design changes and implications for usability. The conversation also covers Apple’s strategic responses to UK data privacy laws, revealing the corporate versus government tension. Plus, insights into new capabilities of visionOS and smart home innovations offer a glimpse into the future of tech. It's a delightful blend of personal anecdotes and tech talk!

Feb 17, 2025 • 1h 41min
551: The Paternity Draft
Explore the quirky dynamics of a 'Paternity Draft' as the hosts humorously anticipate tech trends during one’s leave. They discuss the latest on Apple devices, including the new MacBook Air, future features, and Apple’s strategies in China, amid playful speculations. The conversation also covers the surprise integration of Netflix with Apple TV and the fascinating shift in fitness tech, such as the PowerBeats Pro. Enjoy anecdotes about parenting milestones and the importance of capturing early moments through photography.

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Feb 10, 2025 • 1h 43min
550: The Tasty Part Inside Bad Bread
Is the reign of tech giants over user data security coming to an end? The hosts dive into AltStore's standoff with Apple and discuss the backlash from a leaked apology. Speculations about the new season of 'Ted Lasso' bring intriguing narratives, especially about the women’s team. Meanwhile, Apple’s hardware advances could reshape AI development, while encryption battles in the UK raise critical privacy concerns. Plus, discover the fun of naming your tech devices and the potential of eSIM technology.

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Feb 3, 2025 • 1h 46min
549: (I Don't) Grade for the World
Dive into the results of the Six Colors Apple Report Card, exploring opinions on Apple's 2024 performance across categories. Recent personnel shifts aimed at boosting AI are analyzed, alongside mixed reactions to the latest iPhone and iPad innovations. The conversation spans the hiccups in Apple's smart home tech while assessing Apple TV's standing amidst rival platforms. Plus, there's a focus on public sentiment towards Apple products and their evolving market dynamics.

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Jan 27, 2025 • 1h 25min
548: Hunched Over the Keyboard With My Eyes Closed
The podcast dives into the intriguing complexities of TikTok's legal challenges amidst political scrutiny. Discussions unfold on Apple's new default feature, Apple Intelligence, and their bold ventures into the smart home arena. A nostalgic look at colorful MacBook Air designs brings a blend of tradition and modernity into focus. Meanwhile, they explore the competitive rivalry with Samsung in the ultra-thin smartphone market and highlight exciting innovations in customer service and fitness technology, promising engaging developments ahead.

Jan 20, 2025 • 1h 33min
547: Figure Out and Find Out
The hosts dive into Apple's complex relationship with AI, highlighting its notification challenges and the push for responsible innovation. They explore TikTok's tumultuous future in the U.S., questioning the implications for national security and media literacy. The addictive nature of social media is critiqued, urging for a more intentional usage. Also discussed are Apple TV+'s marketing strategies around hit shows like 'Severance' and 'Silo', and the show's impact on streaming dynamics and audience engagement.


