
Wild Hearts
Wild Hearts is the podcast that reveals the real-time lessons from the founders and operators changing the world.
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May 20, 2025 ⢠45min
One Impossible Idea: Why Pete Shadbolt left academia to build PsiQuantum
What if you could take the most mysterious force in physicsâand make it useful?
In our final episode of this season of Wild Hearts, we sit down with Pete Shadbolt, co-founder of PsiQuantum, a company racing to build the worldâs first utility-scale quantum computer. But this isnât a conversation about quantum theory. Itâs about execution. Engineering. Scaling. Building something that moves humanity forward - not in decades, but now.
Pete shares why 300 or 3,000 qubits wonât cut it, and why a million is the magic number. We explore the technical marvels (and madness) involved in the teamâs journey: superconducting detectors millimetres from red-hot heaters, lasers brighter than a trillion photons, and a cryostat that throws out the chandelier model altogether.
But most of all, this is a story of ambition. Of leaving behind prestigious academic careers, raising a billion dollars, and assembling a team of physicists, welders, aerospace engineers, and cryo-specialists to take one shot at building something historic.
In this conversation, we cover:
đ Why PsiQuantum is chasing 1 million qubitsânot 300, not 3,000đď¸ What it takes to move quantum computing from theory to hardwareâwith welders, chip designers, and aerospace engineers
đ Why academia can be a trapâand how PsiQuantum built an anti-academic company culture
đ The real-world applications of quantum computing: from designing drugs to revolutionising materials science
đŠâđŹ How team DNA, not just tech, shapes PsiQuantumâs ability to scale and execute
âď¸ Why quantum computing isnât a mass adoption tool - and why thatâs perfectly okay
đĽ How engineering targets that once caused mutiny are now being hit daily
This episode concludes our fifth season of Wild Hearts. Over the past 40 weeks, itâs been our honour to chat to the founders and operators shaping the world we live in. If youâve enjoyed the conversations, we would be grateful if you could like, subscribe, and share our program with other wild hearts.
Wild Hearts will take a short break, and will return to all streaming platforms later this year.
From everyone at the Wild Hearts team, thank you!

May 16, 2025 ⢠58min
How Anna Guerrero is changing the way we cook
What if planning dinner wasnât a choreâbut something you looked forward to? In this episode, Wild Hearts guest host, Silk Kadala - investor at Blackbird - chats with Anna Guerrero, founder of Clove, a beautifully designed cooking app thatâs reimagining how we cook at home.
You might know Anna from her nine years scaling the creator marketplace at Canvaâbut it was a stint as a pasta chef in the Dolomites that ultimately set her on the path to launching Clove.
Whether youâre interested in the role of AI in reducing decision fatigue, why brands are betting big on recipe creators as the next wave of culinary entrepreneurs or just stood in front of the fridge thinking âwhatâs for dinner?ââthis episode is for you.
đ In this conversation, we cover:
đł The invisible mental load of everyday cookingâand how Clove is removing it with Smart Planner
đ˛ Why Cloveâs approach to AI is more whisper than shoutâand why that matters for creativity
đ Building for creators: how Clove is giving food bloggers, TikTok cooks and chefs a new way to publish and earn
đŻ From pitch decks to real traction: Annaâs high-stakes decision to pause Cloveâs creator program and set a new quality bar
đ The leap from Canva exec to culinary school studentâand what working in a Michelin-starred restaurant taught Anna about product
đ§ Low ego, high initiative: what Clove looks for in early team members and building a culture of adaptability
đ§ What it means to follow the dotsâwhy you donât need to have it all figured out to move forward
đ˝ď¸ The long-term ambition: turning Clove into the global go-to for âwhatâs for dinner?ââwith a billion recipes cooked through the platform
From Canva to Clove, Anna Guerrero shows what it looks like to reinvent yourself, back a bold vision, and build something that truly changes how we live and cook.

May 13, 2025 ⢠42min
Launching Iconic Tech Companies in Australia with Kate Vale (ex-Google & Spotify)
Kate Vale, the first employee at Google and Spotify in Australia, shares her incredible journey launching these iconic tech giants from her lounge room. She discusses the challenges of scaling Spotify compared to Google and the cultural rituals that fostered high-performance teams. Vale also reveals the critical lessons learned in tech, the mistakes startups often make, and her commitment to supporting female founders through her venture capital fund. Her insights offer a fascinating glimpse into the tech world and the importance of investing in women.

May 1, 2025 ⢠36min
LIVE from Sunrise Australia: How Alex Zaccaria Reclaimed Linktreeâs Vision and Culture
What happens when a side project becomes a platform used by over 75 million peopleâyet the founder feels like theyâre losing control of it?
In this special live episode of Wild Hearts , Linktree co-founder and CEO Alex Zaccaria joins Mason Yates on stage at Sunrise Australia to unpack the messy, inspiring story behind one of Australiaâs most iconic tech exports.
From unpacking Alexâs early creative instincts to the cultural tensions between Australia and the US, this is an unfiltered conversation on clarity, leadership, and staying close to the product that made it all possible.
In this conversation, we cover:
đ How Linktree grew from a music industry side project into a global internet infrastructure tool
đ Why Alex Zaccaria scrapped traditional org charts and rebuilt the team from a âzero-based budgetâ approach
đ§ The internal mindset shift from people-pleasing to product-led, founder-first decision making
đ Why simplicity is one of the hardest product challengesâand how Linktree maintains it at massive scale
đşď¸ What it means to build a business across two culturesâAustralia and the USâand how the team navigates tall poppy syndrome
đ¸ How Linktree's new âSponsored Linksâ marketplace is flipping influencer marketing into measurable performance
đ¤ The evolution of leadership clarity and why Alex now operates in âmandate modeâ
đ What it takes to stay true to your product intuitionâeven when everyone around you tells you otherwise
And of course, because this is a live episode, thereâs some audience questions and banter along the way! Listen in for a conversation about reclaiming vision, rewriting culture, and building at global scale while staying grounded in creative instinct.

Apr 22, 2025 ⢠1h 6min
From burnout to balance: lessons in product, writing and culture with Harry Flett.
Harry Flett, VP of Product at Tracksuit, shares insights on creating a thriving product culture that balances fun and performance. He discusses the importance of the 'say-do ratio' in building trust within teams. Harry also delves into managing burnout, emphasizing the need for intentional delegation. His approach to clear writing enhances team clarity and strategy. Additionally, he reveals effective hiring practices focused on genuine connections and the role humor plays in fostering engagement and creativity in the workplace.

Apr 15, 2025 ⢠1h
The intersection of marketing, product, and creativity with George Howes from Magic Brief
George Howes, former creative lead at Eucalyptus and founder of Magic Brief, dives deep into the cluttered world of online content. He highlights how creative teams thrive on feedback loops, not just freedom. Discussing AI, George emphasizes that it should enhance, not replace, creativity, while also sharing his 15 principles for high-performing teams. He offers insights on optimizing marketing strategies and the evolving role of technology in fostering genuine customer engagement. A masterclass for marketers seeking innovation!

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Apr 8, 2025 ⢠1h 1min
Why Australiaâs defence needs tech founders: Vu Tran of Black Sky Industries on building missiles with a startup mindset.
Vu Tran, co-founder of Go1 and Black Sky Industries, shares his unique journey from edtech to the defense sector, driven by concerns for future generations. He discusses the moral dilemmas that guided his shift to missile manufacturing and emphasizes the need for Australia to become self-reliant in its defense. Vu believes in adopting a startup mindset to innovate within this slow-moving industry, advocating for a defense philosophy akin to an echidnaâsmall yet formidable. His insights on personal mission and national security spark a conversation about reshaping Australiaâs military landscape.

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Apr 1, 2025 ⢠1h 6min
Scaling Heidi in the US: Lessons in product, people and persistence.
Jesse Creighton, Director of Heidi Health in the US, dives into the challenges of scaling a healthcare startup in a competitive market. He shares insights on awkward networking experiences and the obstacles of initial customer outreach. Jesse discusses how switching to a freemium model transformed their growth and the importance of adapting strategies to achieve product-market fit. He also explores building a customer-focused team and the unique hiring dynamics between Australian and American talent. Get ready for lessons in persistence and product innovation!

Mar 25, 2025 ⢠53min
From Impossible to Obvious: OpenStarâs Fast-Track Approach to Fusion
What does it take to achieve nuclear fusion in less time than it takes to build a traditional power plant prototype? In this episode of Wild Hearts, weâre joined by Ratu Mataira, CEO of OpenStar, a company that just hit the crucial "first plasma" milestone in a staggering 16 months. We unpack the misconceptions surrounding fusion, the unique design of OpenStarâs levitated dipole reactor, and why the pathway to commercial fusion might be shorter -and more valuable - than most people think.đ In this conversation, we cover:⥠How OpenStar achieved first plasma in just 16 monthsâyears faster than competitorsđĽ Why fusion isnât â30 years awayâ anymoreâand never really was đ How misconceptions about cost, scale and safety are holding the industry back đŠ The engineering breakthrough that allows OpenStar to iterate faster đ§Ş Why their first product wonât be a power plantâand what it might be instead đĽ Medical isotopes, nuclear waste and imaging: the early use cases for fusion đ§ âAlways include a crankâ: how failure tolerance fuels rapid learning đ The startup mindset behind building a trillion-dollar fusion company This episode goes beyond fusion hype; itâs a candid look at how OpenStar is breaking barriers in one of the worldâs hardest engineering challenges.

Mar 19, 2025 ⢠51min
Breaking barriers in neurotechnology: The future of brain-computer interfaces
How do you take a scientific hunch and turn it into a breakthrough that could change medicine forever?In this episode of Wild Hearts, we sit down with Elise Jenkins, co-founder of Opto Biosystems, to discuss the journey of building a first-in-class brain implant that merges neurotechnology with oncology. đ§ Subscribe on Apple or Spotify to learn.We explore the highs and lows of moving from academia to a high-stakes startup, the unexpected hurdles of working with neurosurgeons, and the race toward first-in-human trials.In this conversation, we cover:đ§ Bridging the gap between neuroscience and cancer researchđŹ How brain-Computer interfaces could transform oncologyđ The road to the first-in-human clinical trials and what It means for the futuređĄ The challenges of moving from academia to a high-impact startup⥠Why the next generation of neural implants need to be MRI-invisible đĽ What It takes to get regulatory approval for a revolutionary medical implant đ Optoâs long-term vision: using neural biomarkers beyond brain cancerIf you're fascinated by the intersection of science, engineering, and medicine, this conversation is for you.đ§ Subscribe on Apple or Spotify to learn.