

Product for Product Management
Matt Green & Moshe Mikanovsky
Product for Product is a show hosted by Matt Green and Moshe Mikanovsky aimed at helping listeners navigate the growing depth of product management tools while also providing our insights into the categories that make up the PM role. We will take listeners with us on a journey of discovery through areas of product analytics, road mapping, productivity and many others. If you want to keep up with the latest in product management come along for the ride! Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproducthttps://linkedin.com/in/mikanovskyConnect with us on Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/@productforproduct
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Aug 31, 2022 • 34min
EP 60 - Figma with Quinnie Chen
 Welcome to the UX/UI and Wireframing series, where we explore different tools that Product Managers use in the design process, either on their own or with the help of a UX/UI Designer. In this episode, Matt and Moshe had the pleasure of speaking with Quinnie Chen, Product Manager at Envato, about the tool Figma. Quinnie shared her background as a designer turned product manager/entrepreneur, and her love for everything design.In the episode, Quinnie talks about:* Why she loves Figma so much* Figma vs other tools* How did Figma win over other tools?* How to work with a design system and not skip the Wireframing process?* Loved features such as amazing online collaboration and community templates* And so much more!To learn more about Figma:https://www.figma.com/Connect with Quinnie:https://www.linkedin.com/in/quinnie-chen/Connect with Matt and Moshe on LinkedIn:*Matt - www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics*Moshe - www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky *Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 

Aug 24, 2022 • 19min
EP 59 - UX/UI and Wireframing Kickoff with Matt & Moshe
 Welcome to the UX/UI and Wireframing kickoff episode. Matt and Moshe met to discuss what UX/UI design and Wireframing systems are all about.Although they debated whether to have a dedicated series for each of them, one for UX/UI design systems such as Figma or Invision, and one for Wireframing systems like Balsamiq, they decided on merging these into one series. Reason is that Product Managers don’t usually do a lot of the UX/UI design, and are more involved in the wireframing process. Some systems are dedicated to wireframing, while others are more geared to the UX/UI design, and still allow the Product Managers to participate. While other systems, such as Miro, is more of a broad whiteboard collaboration platform, which lends itself to wireframing.In this episode, Matt and Moshe discuss some of they expectations from the series and what they would like to learn, such as:* User friendliness of the various platforms* The collaboration aspects* Prototyping* And more! The products we will discuss include:* Figma* Lucidchart* Miro* Balsamiq* and moreConnect with Matt and Moshe on LinkedIn:*Matt - www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics*Moshe - www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky *Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 

Aug 10, 2022 • 37min
EP 58 - SOAP with Paul Ortchanian
 In this episode, Matt and Moshe speak with Paul Ortchanian, Founder, CEO and Leadership Advisor at Bain Public, a product leadership firm that helps companies make informed decisions and deliver superior quality products that appeal to customers and achieve business goals. During their work at Bain Public, Paul and his team developed the SOAP™ methodology, which helps product planning and roadmap prioritization based on principles of Product Strategy, Lean Startup, User-centered design, Data Science and more.  Join Matt and Moshe as they explore the following topics with Paul:• The challenges many companies face when they do not understand product focus• The challenge of Product Managers having to educate their management on what Product is all about• The help companies need in understanding productSOAP Methodology, created on Coda for their clients to structure their product work• The complexities for Product Managers in AI productsAnd more…  • You can connect with Paul at:• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulortchanian/ • Twitter: https://twitter.com/paulblast • Bain Public: https://www.bainpublic.com/ • To learn more about the SOAP Methodology, Bain Public offers a variety of articles, e-books and approaches on their website.   • You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast  • Matt - www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics  • Moshe - www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky  • Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way. Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 

Jul 27, 2022 • 31min
EP 57 - Backlog & Agile Boards Warp Up with Matt & Moshe
 Going back to the basics - chatting about backlog and agile boards systems - we enjoyed learning some of the approaches companies (both providers and users) have taken in this table-stakes systems for product teams.In the series, we covered Clickup, Pivotal Tracker, Jira, Shortcut and Azure DevOps. In this episode Matt and Moshe met again to summarize what they learned.Some of the discussion points include:* Systems with flexible workflows vs opinionated ones* Systems that does it all vs those who specialize * Project Management vs Product Management * Integrations with other systems, connectivity to the ecosystem we are using  And more! * Product for Product sitehttps://www.spreaker.com/show/product-for-product * You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:     -  Product for Product Podcast - linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast    -  Matt Green - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/    -  Moshe Mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/ *Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 

Jul 14, 2022 • 35min
EP 56 - Azure DevOps with Matt & Moshe
 Welcome to the Backlog and Agile Board series. We are going back to the basics of Product Management, exploring the products all product people are using to manage their backlog and work with their teams.In this episode, we did it a bit differently. Instead of meeting with a guest, Matt and Moshe talked about Microsoft’s Azure DevOps from their own experience.Moshe has worked with Azure DevOps for 3 years (but now moved back to Jira in his new job), while Matt started working with Azure DevOps recently, when he moved to a new job.In the episode, Matt and Moshe talk about:What they like and don’t like in Azure DevOpsThe hierarchy of the backlogWays to prioritize in the backlog and in the team’s boardThe flexibility of the boards flows, cardsAnd much moreTo learn more about Azure DevOps:https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/devops/ Connect with Matt and Moshe on LinkedIn:*Matt - www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics*Moshe - www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky *Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 

Jul 6, 2022 • 32min
EP 55 - Shortcut with CJ Burns
 Welcome to the Backlog and Agile Board series. We are going back to the basics of Product Management, exploring the products all product people are using to manage their backlog and work with their teams.In this episode, Matt and Moshe had the pleasure of speaking with CJ Burns, Director of Product at LTK, about the tool Shortcut, formerly known as Clubhouse. In the episode, CJ talks about:• Why his company decided to move from Jira to adopt Shortcut• Some of the great things he loves about Shortcut and some of its shortcomings• And much moreTo learn more about Shortcut:* https://shortcut.com/Connect with CJ on LinkedIn and learn more about Shortcut:* https://www.linkedin.com/in/clay-burns-108363b/Connect with Matt and Moshe on LinkedIn:*Matt - www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics*Moshe - www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky *Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 

Jun 29, 2022 • 40min
EP 54 - Jira with Emily Patterson
 Welcome to the Backlog and Agile Board series. We are going back to the basics of Product Management, exploring the products all product people are using to manage their backlog and work with their teams.In this episode, Matt and Moshe had the pleasure of speaking with Emily Patterson, Director of Product Management at Fortress Information Security, and Founder and Lead Instructor at In the Lab Product Management, about Attlasian’s Jira. Emily is a fan of Jira, and has been using it for many years, and have seen it’s growth and evolution over time.In the episode, Emily talks about:• Jira’s flexibility in workflow, though one should be careful not to go overboard and make it too complex• The backlog, and some of the ways she applies to manage it• Ease of use and onboarding of new users•And so much moreTo learn more about Jira:• https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira Connect with Emily on LinkedIn and learn more about Jira:• https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilyholtzpatterson/• Twitter @epatt6• https://inthelabpm.com/ Connect with Matt and Moshe on LinkedIn:• Matt - www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics• Moshe - www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky • Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 

Jun 22, 2022 • 33min
EP 53 - Pivotal Tracker with Wes Galliher
 Welcome to the Backlog and Agile Board series. We are going back to the basics of Product Management, exploring the products all product people are using to manage their backlog and work with their teams.In this episode, Matt and Moshe had the pleasure of speaking with Wes Galliher, Head of Product at Productable, about the tool Pivotal Tracker. Wes speaks about how his team is leveraging the tool to help manage and visualize the work they are doing as a startup.In the episode, Wes talks about:* Integrations, including one with ProdPad to help with product vision* Metrics and how they help the team stay on track* Advantages of using opinionated softwareAnd more…To learn more about Pivotal Tracker: https://www.pivotaltracker.com/Connect with Wes on LinkedIn and learn more about Productable:https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesgalliher/https://www.beproductable.com/Connect with Matt and Moshe on LinkedIn:*Matt - www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics*Moshe - www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky *Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 

Jun 15, 2022 • 35min
EP 52 - Clickup with Sam Pavitt
 Welcome to the Backlog and Agile Board series. We are going back to the basics of Product Management, exploring the products all product people are using to manage their backlog and work with their teams.In this episode, Matt and Moshe had the pleasure of speaking with Sam Pavitt, Head of Product at Gatekeeper, about Clickup. Sam used to be a big fan of Jira in past positions, but when he joined Gatekeeper he had to shift to Clickup. And he never looked back. In the episode, Sam talks about:* Is Clickup the “One app to replace them all”?* How does Clickup stack up against other tools on the market?* Integrations with other tools* Is it a project management system or more than that?* How simple is it to start with and learn how to use it?   And moreTo learn more about Clickup: * https://clickup.com/Connect with Sam on LinkedIn and learn more about Gatekeeper::* https://www.linkedin.com/in/sampavitt/* https://www.gatekeeperhq.com/Connect with Matt and Moshe on LinkedIn:*Matt - www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics*Moshe - www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky *Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 

Jun 8, 2022 • 27min
EP 51 - Backlogs & Agile Boards Kickoff with Matt & Moshe
 Welcome to the Backlog and Agile Board kickoff series. We are going back to the basics of Product Management, exploring the products all product people are using to manage their backlog and work with their teams.Kicking off the series, Matt and Moshe met to discuss what we might expect to see from these products.   * Backlogs help product teams manage and scope the work that needs to be performed in a visual way. They serve as a master repository for work, including ideas, enhancements, bugs and new features.   * Agile boards are visual frameworks that enable teams to break the work down into various pillars and lanes, displaying work that is actively being worked on by the team. These boards are often deployed in Kanban and Scrum.   * They also discuss the tools and processes they are familiar with from experience along with things to learn. The products we will discuss include:JiraClickupPivotal TrackerShortcutand moreConnect with Matt and Moshe on LinkedIn:*Matt - www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics*Moshe - www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky *Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 


