Prioritization is one of the cornerstone activities that we all do as product people. Some are done mindfully, with a process in place, and some are done on an on-going basis, without even thinking of it. In many cases, we struggle to find the right way to prioritize, especially when there are many factors involved, and many team members and stakeholders with conflicting needs.In the episode, we met with Harry Max, a product leader, Managing Partner at Peak Priorities LLC, COO at productOps, and author of “Managing Priorities: How to Create Better Plans and Make Smarter Decisions”. With his extensive experience building products, and following his TEDx and South by Southwest talks, Harry found himself diving into many discussions about prioritization. This later on launched his journey to write the book.In Managing Priorities, Harry gathered many priority related tools, but first started it with the DEGAP framework, which helps put everyone in the mindset of the need for prioritization.Join Matt and Moshe as we chat with Harry and learn:What DEGAP is: slowing down the process and planning how to prioritize properly. The framework includes 5 steps - Decide, Engage, Gather, Arrange and PrioritizeDifferent levels of prioritizations we need to make in lifeThe importance of understanding others’ priorities; better engagement to be part of the process, be heard, and be taken into considerations Prioritization is not the end result, just an input to our decisions and eventually, the actions to takeEisenhower  Matrix - what is it, how different people might use it differently, and how in some cases it can help us in our prioritization processThe important of “cost of delay”, and how to use it in our prioritization discussionsPrecision vs accuracy - the importance of words and understanding what they mean to each of usMax Priorities Pyramid - what is it, who is it useful for and where can people find it (see link to the Miro template below)Which method would he suggest to our listeners todayWhere should people start to set up their prioritization methodAnd much more!You can connect with Harry at:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harrymax/ email: harry@harrymax.com Website: Harrymax.com  Max Priorities Pyramid Miro board: https://miro.com/miroverse/the-max-priorities-pyramid-template You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:Product for Product Podcast - linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast    Matt Green - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/Moshe Mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests,  and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

We are excited to bring to the podcast a startup that is building an exciting Data and AI product that can change how product managers and other executives are finding insights in the vast datasets they have access to. In this episode, we met with Mo Hallaba, founder and CEO of Datawisp. With extensive background in data and analytics, Mo experienced first hand the complexity it takes for employees of all levels in understanding the data they have, and in using the mostly technical tools that usually require data scientists, and long queues and time, to provide any useful insights. With that in mind, Mo created Datawisp, to bring the data - and more importantly, the insights from the data - directly to the people who need it. Using Natural Language Processing (NLP), Datawisp’s users can ask Wispy, its AI agent, for questions on things that are interesting to them, and Wispy then brings the data and the insights it learns from the data. Join Matt and Moshe as we chat with Mo and learn: - Mo’s background in financial analytics and his past entrepreneurship journey - How AI opened up the options for people to think about how to solve the data problem - Datawisp’s vision for how different teams in the organization can use it - The current focus on Product Managers and Marketing  - Some of the feature of Datawisp, such as: - Users talk to it in the same way they would talk to a data scientist - If it doesn’t understand the question it prompts for more info - The freedom it has to manipulate the data like a data scientist would - Automatically picks a type of chart based on the question it was asked - Different people asking the same question at the same time, would get the same answer - How it handles security and privacy for its users - Customizable dashboards for users for questions they want to ask on regular basis - What needs to happen in an organization that adopts Datawisp  - What is the biggest barrier for people that want to be great in their jobs - Will AI replace data scientists?  - And much more! * You can connect with Mo at: - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mo.../    - X: @ElectronicMo  - email: mailto:mo@datawisp.io  - Datawisp: https://www.datawisp.io/  You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:      - http://linkedin.com/company/pr... linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast    - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ma... - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/   - http://www.linkedin.com/in/mik... - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/ Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests,  and do not represent the products mentioned in any way. Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Have you ever wished you had one book to learn from early in your career, and avoid many mistakes? We found one of those for product professionals, and this episode is all about that!“Aligned: Stakeholder Management for Product Leaders” by Bruce McCarthy and Melissa Appel is a must read for every product person. It will help you understand the intricacies of stakeholder management, and put into action a plan to build a healthy relationship with your stakeholders, one that you need to nurture and grow in order to be successful in your job.On our first episode of 2025 we had the pleasure to meet with Bruce, Founder at Product Culture, and Melissa, Executive Product Management Coach at Product Culture, co-authors of the book.In the episode, Bruce and Melissa shared with us how they each got to Product Management and eventually to write Aligned, who the book is for, how they approached writing it, and so much more!Join Matt and Moshe as they learn from Bruce and Melissa:The challenges product people have with stakeholders, such as saying no, cultural and language differences, remote environments, etcTools to establish rapport with stakeholders, such as socializing, 1-on-1s, discovery interviews, mirroring, etcThe biggest thing that will help you grow your career in productHow to get stakeholders involved in ways that will get their buy-insThe book’s structure, weaved into it a story with examples on how to use the listed toolsSome of the tools in the book, such as the Stakeholders CanvasCan stakeholders benefit from reading the book?Tools they love using as product professionalsAnd so much more…Connect with Bruce and Melissa:Bruce’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brucemccarthy/ Melissa’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melappel/ Aligned book’s resources: Alignedthebook.com Product Culture: Productculture.com Connect with Matt and Moshe on LinkedIn:Matt Green: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics Moshe Mikanovsky: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Time just flies! It feels like yesterday we wrapped 2023, and we are already at that time of the year again, with a 2024 warp-up! 2024 was a bit different than previous years, as we had only one themed series, and the rest of the episodes were a one-off, covering a variety of topics. And, early in the year, we also celebrated the 100th episode, in a live 2-hours show, that introduced many of the guest from the previous 3 years of podcasting. In our themed series we covered Session Replay products. This seris was very informtive and can prove to be a valuable tool for product managers. We continued this year covering great books for product people, and several frameworks and mindsets. Some of our guests shared with us methods to craft our products’ story, naming our products, and what goes into making decisions. Product Coaching grew steadily this year and was the topic of several episodes. We learned what it takes to be a product professional to build IoT products, and we caught up on the state of Product Analytics products. And of course, we couldn’t ignore AI and GenAI and how they help us - or the potential they can have in helping us. Finally, we introduce a startup product that help product people in a unique way.We would like to thank each and every guest that came on the show! We couldn’t have done it without you: Tovit Neizer, Orly Zeewy, Gil Broza, Jakie Flake, Marty Cagan, Eva Hongyan Gao, Yelena Liman, Oz Nazilli, Dave Martin, Henry Latham, Ricardo Vital, David Pereira, Dennis Chow, Anat Eldar, Vincent Pavero, Mandar Karlekar, John Fontenot, Zach Phillips, Nikki Zavadska, Christoph Steinlehner, Assaph Mehr, Phil Hornby, Aakash Gupta and Tedde van Gelderen.We can’t wait to continue this journey next year!We have some great episodes planned, and looking forward to learning and sharing more in the Product for Product Podcast!Happy New Year everyone! Matt & MosheYou can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin: Product for Product Podcast - https://www.linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcastMatt Green - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/Moshe Mikanovsky - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests,  and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Tedde van Gelderen, President of Akendi and author of "Experience Thinking: Creating Connected Experiences," discusses his journey from cognitive psychology to UX design. He argues for "Experience Thinking," emphasizing a holistic approach to create intentional user experiences. Topics include the integration of product, brand, and content design for cohesive user satisfaction, the evolving landscape of experience design, and the collaborative effort needed across departments for successful product launches. Tedde's insights challenge traditional design methodologies, promoting a deeper understanding of the customer journey.

We have covered Product Analytics tools in the past, including Pendo, Amplitude, Mixpanel, Heap and some new comers like LogRocket, PostHog and FullStory.There are many more tools in the market, and many of the favorite ones are also improving and changing, with new improvements and functionalities that create more value to their users.We are fortunate to have more product leaders who are interested in looking at how our tools of the trade compare, and the value to our community. Such a leader is Aakash Gupta, Chief Product Officer at Product Growth, author and podcaster of the Product Growth newsletter and podcast. In a recent LinkedIn post, Aakash published the result of his research looking into the top leading Product Analytics products (see link to the post below).We had the pleasure of chatting with Aakash about his research, and learning from him about his research, as well as about the role of Product Growth Managers.  Join Matt and Moshe as they explore with Aakash:How he got to Product ManagementHis first experience with a real Product Analytics productHow he researched the industry for the post What he discovered on the way about these products and some key differentiatorsSome of the niche products in the marketHow the different tools are adopting AIHow startups can utilize these toolsHis prediction on who will winThe power it gives product managers, and especially Product Growth ManagersInsights into the role of Product Growth ManagersAnd so much more…You can connect with Aakash at:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aagupta/Product Growth newsletter and podcast: https://www.news.aakashg.com/LinkedIn post “What I learned about the top Product Analytics players”: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/aagupta_based-on-3-months-of-research-25-buyer-activity-7226944089210982401-QnKwYou can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin: Product for Product Podcast - linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcastMatt Green - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct/Moshe Mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/ Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests,  and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Some product managers don’t realize how many decisions we have to make daily in our jobs. And some of us decided to become product managers because we have to make decisions…But how do we make decisions? And what are the right decisions to make?Well… it depends…In this episode we explored these questions with Phil Hornby, Founder and Product Leadership Coach at for product people, and Co-creator and Co-host of the Talking Roadmaps podcast. Phil is in the process of writing his book “It Depends?”, on how decisions are made, and more specifically, when building products, and by product professional.We explored with Phil how he got to product management (accidently, like most of us), wheat does it mean to be a Product Coach, and how he is writing his book with the help of the community.Join Matt and Moshe as they explore with Phil:How to make decision in generalThe role of Implementation in decision makingCurating principles related to decision making and organizing them in the bookDecision velocityTips to individual contributors product managers who want to make change internally Product coaching and how product coaches workThe hard areas of Product Coaching as a businessThe importance of mentorship early onAnd so much more…You can connect with Phil at:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philhornby/For product people:  forproductpeople.comIt Depends! book: theitdependsbook.comTalking Roadmaps podcast: www.talkingroadmaps.comYou can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:     -Product for Product Podcast - linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcastMatt Green - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct/Moshe Mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/ Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests,  and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Product Management is not about frameworks. Yes, using some frameworks that fit well in your situation can save us a lot of time by organizing our thoughts and allowing us to collaborate better.And before there were frameworks, there were mindsets.In this episode we are talking about a couple of mindset that help product managers and anyone who is building products to align better with the chaotic nature of our work.Our guest on the show is Assaph Mehr, a product and people leader. He is currently a Senior Product Manager of AI at Squiz, a Product Management Advisor & Mentor at My Mentor Path, a thought provoking blogger, and an author (or several ward-winning stories of Togas, Daggers, and Magic series - for lovers of Dark Urban-Fantasy Detectives and Ancient Rome!).On the episode, Assaph shared with us two of those mindsets - VUCA and Cynefin, and how they relate to our jobs as product people.Join Matt and Moshe as they explore with Assaph:How he got to product managementHis experience building AI products, and some of the challenges they raiseWhat are these two mindsets all about (and how to pronounce Cynefin!)How to understand, and harness Volatility, Uncertainty, Complexity and Ambiguity (VUCA)The balance between all of these, and how each of our domains can have a different mixIs it possible to quantify things like uncertainty or complexity?How he defines strategyThe 5 domains of Cynefin, and the importance of fitting our problem to the right domainCan Product Managers impact their orgs to think in these ways?Can product job seekers test organizational fit by probing to see if they have the right mindset?And so much more…You can connect with Assaph at:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/assaph/ Blog: https://assaph.substack.comBlog post about Cynefin and VUCA: https://assaph.substack.com/p/cynefin-and-vuca * You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:Product for Product Podcast - linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcastMatt Green - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct/Moshe Mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/ Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests,  and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Have you ever seen those pictures of a group of people with sticky notes around a whiteboard, working their way through a tough problem and coming with some innovative solutions? Did you feel they know something you don’t, and their work seems so much fun, while yours is not as creative?Well, it’s not as hard as it looks and you can do it too! But it’s always good to have a structure for the madness. And we got one for you in this episode! Featuring Christoph Steinlehner, Product Coach and Consultant, creator of the MAPPER Method (who started his career as a designer), Matt and Moshe sat down to learn from him how using visual methods and tools can help identifying gaps, aligning teams to the same mental model, and creating some innovation magic!Join us as we learn from Christoph:How he got into product managementHow did he come up with the MAPPER MethodThe MAPPER Method structure and how to go by each step:Map your thoughts Acknowledge PerspectivesPoint Assumptions & RisksPlan and ActEvaluate for InsightsReflecting and improvingUse cases and situations where the MAPPER Method helped him and the teams he worked withUsing MAPPER in different stages of the product, like GTM, customer support, marketing etcThe power of visual tools, and shifting from plain conversations and all their inherited issuesThe importance of humbleness! How the culture of the company creates the space for or put challenges in using the methodThe importance of having some analog tools in our toolkitAnd much more!Contact Christoph if you are interested to hear more, including an explainer document for the method.You can connect with Christoph at:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/csteinlehner/ Website: https://csteinlehner.com/ Mapper Club on Substack: https://mapperclub.substack.com/ You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:Product for Product Podcast - linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcastMatt Green - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/Moshe Mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests,  and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

In this episode, Matt and Moshe met to wrap up the Session Replay Tools series, and share what they learned after discussing several products.In the series we learned about PostHog from Vincent Pavero, FullStory from Mandar Karlekar, HotJar from John Fontenot, and LogRocket from Zach Phillips and Nikki Zavadska.As we usually do in the summary episode, we looked back at our learning throughout the series, and sure there were many!Reflecting back on past product serieses we had, some of the themes came back also in this one, such as choosing a product that goes deep into one area and does if very well, verses choosing a product that does many different things and has a wide array of features, all integrated with each other, but might not go as deep into some of them. It is interesting to see how companies have either started in Session Replay and added other capabilities over time, and others that started in other areas such as Product Analytics, and added Session Replay more lately.Join us on the episode as we further discuss:Use cases throughout the organization Technology used to record the sessionsInsights from many sessions rather than one at a timeChoosing the right one for you based on your needsHow security is handled and the importance of having several approaches to it The emerging trends in AI and these productsAnd much more!Thank you to our guests in this series for sharing with us their experiences! Product for Product site:Product for Product PodcastConnect with Matt and Moshe on LinkedIn:MattMosheNote: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️