
Free Time with Jenny Blake
Set your time free through smarter systems so you can do more of your best work. Free Time launched in 2021 and releases on Tuesdays and Fridays. It's a Webby-nominated business podcast and winner of three W3 awards for best show and best host. Join Jenny Blake, author of three award-winning books—including Free Time: Lose the Busywork and Love Your Business and Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One—to explore our guiding question: How can we earn twice as much in half the time, with joy and ease, while serving the highest good? Subscribe now so you don’t miss an episode! Bonus: please leave a review and share with a friend—word-of-mouth is the most joyful way to grow the show :) Subscribe to theTime Well Spent newsletter at ItsFreeTime.com, and share this episode at pod.link/freetime. Check out Jenny's other podcast, Pivot with Jenny Blake, on navigating change at pod.link/pivotmethod.
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Aug 11, 2023 • 14min
214: “Don’t Suffer Twice” (Pivot Crossover)
Today’s solo riff is on a three-word phrase that has helped quell countless waves of anxiety in the decade since I first heard it, wisdom passed from my friend Monica McCarthy's (aka MonBon’s) mom then to the pages of Pivot. Pardon the occasional panting (lol) and background noise—err New York City soundscape—as I recorded this one on a big hill at the park, running up and down while throwing a giant log for Ryder to chase. He chases sticks, I chase ideas!This crossover episode originally aired on the Pivot podcast on April 2, 2023.🌟 3 Key Takeaways:
Memento Mori, though it is by definition morbid, is a practice of reminding ourselves that we (and our loved ones) will die. As the monks at Wat Umong temple hand-wrote on a note posted to a tree, “Remember: In 100 years, all new people.” How can you allow this reality to inform how you engage in relationships without leading to excessive anxiety or worry?
The Second Arrow: Notice when you are suffering because of a story you are telling yourself after a painful event, grinding the gears of a problem and making it worse long after the fact.
Remember, “Worry is praying for what you don’t want.” Try not to worry for or about others either; it’s not a nice energy to project or to feel.
✅ Next Action: If you notice yourself worrying or anxious, try to remind yourself of those three little words from MonBon's mom: Don't suffer twice.📚Books Mentioned
Life After College
Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One
Free Time: Lose The Busywork, Love Your Business
The Examined Life: How We Lose and Find Ourselves by Stephen Grosz
When Things Fall Apart: Heart Advice for Difficult Times by Pema Chodron
Outrageous Openness: Letting the Divine Take the Lead by Tosha Silver
Change Me Prayers: The Hidden Power of Spiritual Surrender by Tosha Silver
🔗 Resources
Articles: Many Animals—Including Your Dog—May Have Horrible Short-Term Memories, Memento Mori, The Second Arrow
People: Monica McCarthy, Tosha Silver, Penney Peirce
🎧 Related Podcast Episodes
Pivot:
312: Are You Future-Tripping?
Jenny & Penney Show (Spotify playlist)
Slow Cooked vs. Pressure Cooker
Free Time:
170: 🌈 “Imagine a World of Abundance” ✨
172: Free Time Isn’t Just for the Fun Days
138: ⛵️ Stop Sailing the Sea of Shiny Shoulds
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Aug 8, 2023 • 1h 3min
213: Who’s Sitting in the Board Room of Your Brain? with Adrian Klaphaak (Pivot Crossover)
Adrian Klaphaak, a coaching expert and practitioner of Internal Family Systems therapy, joins Jenny to discuss the concept of the 'boardroom in your brain.' They explore the different voices or parts that influence thoughts and actions, and share personal experiences and homework on identifying these voices. They discuss three different board members in the brain: the one that wants you to work harder, the one that demands surrender, and the one that tries to figure everything out. They delve into internal struggles and self-doubt that entrepreneurs face, as well as explore the presence of a disengaged Buddhist monk in the brain's boardroom and the internal conflict between different aspects of oneself.

Aug 4, 2023 • 40min
212: Are You Future-Tripping? (Pivot Crossover)
As the saying goes, “Worrying is praying for what you don’t want.” A close cousin is future-tripping: projecting and living in the future instead of being present with what is actually happening, keeping an open mind about whatever might happen next. If you are inclined to catastrophize, you’re not alone! But getting caught in a fictional movie can mean missing out on important opportunities, ideas, and relationships. Today, I’m talking about why we do this, how future-tripping manifests, and strategies for shifting into what I call present-calming instead.This crossover episode originally aired on the Pivot podcast on March 5, 2023.🌟 15 Strategies for Shifting from Future-Tripping to Present-Calming:
Notice when you’re in a movie where you’re projecting events and possibilities rather than being present to the actual facts at hand.
Be compassionate with your fearful side, as being hard on yourself doesn’t help.
Take a page from The Work with Byron Katie by asking, “Is that true? Can I absolutely know that it’s true?”
Pause and reflect: What are the facts versus what am I assuming?
Reframe what you are experiencing as an open-ended, creative question.
Trust yourself to be creative and resourceful at every next step as it arises.
Intuition happens in the moment, so ground yourself in the present.
Be grateful for the abundance that the problem you are facing represents.
Create and hold a positive vision of what is possible if all goes as well as it possibly can (instead of worst-case catastrophizing).
Listen to relaxing podcasts or meditations if you have trouble sleeping due to anxious thoughts.
Take a small step or positive action toward a solution.
Limit your exposure to negative news. Or all news, for that matter!
Get your endorphins flowing with 20-minutes of cardio or yoga
Talk to an energizing friend or family member to get an outside perspective
Surrender. Ask for clarity on what action to take (or not) and for grace and patience in the meantime.
✅ Try this next: Notice when you’re caught in a movie of the future, generating anxiety from a problem or situation causing you stress. Ask to be shown one next step, and stay attuned to clues or hits of inspiration or intuition in your environment.Do you have any strategies for present-calming? Send me a note at hello@itspivotmethod.com or leave me a voice memo at pivotmethod.com/ask.📘Books:
Free Time: Lose The Busywork, Love Your Business
Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One
Life After College
Loving What Is: Four Questions That Can Change Your Life by Byron Katie
Nonviolent Communication: A Language of Life: Life-Changing Tools for Healthy Relationships by Marshall Rosenberg
🔗Resources:
Byron Katie: TheWork.com and Judge Your Neighbor worksheet
TV Series: Harlem via Amazon Prime (clip pulled from S2 E4)
JB’s Ideal Day Madlib
Sleep Foundations: The Best Podcasts for Sleep
Jordan Harbinger: 6-Minute Networking Course
🎧Related Podcast Episodes:
[Best Of] Penney & Jenny 1: Intuition and Frequency (listen to the full Spotify playlist of the Penney & Jenny Show)
282: The Honor Roll Hangover with Melody Wilding
260: Everyday Rituals and the 'Sparkling of the Sacred' with Casper ter Kuile
69: Worrier's Guide to the End of the World with Torre DeRoche
Free Time 138: ⛵️ Stop Sailing the Sea of Shiny Shoulds
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Aug 1, 2023 • 1h 1min
211: 10+ Conference Networking Strategies with Alisa Cohn (Pivot Crossover)
Attending conferences can be overwhelming — even for the most excited extroverts among us—let alone the introverts who challenge their comfort zone in the registration process alone.Today, my friend Alisa and I do an in-person debrief of our recent week-long adventure at the TED global conference in Vancouver (my second time attending, her fifth). We cover conversation openers, the power of a genuine compliment, trying (and sometimes failing) to approach people we admire as a peer, handling the inevitable FOMO and big feelings that arise, when to call it quits (what I call “falling off the cliff”), and so much more.This crossover episode originally aired on the Pivot podcast on June 4, 2023.More About Alisa: Alisa Cohn has been coaching startup founders to grow into world-class CEOs for nearly 20 years. She is the author of From Start-Up to Grown-Up, and hosts a podcast of the same name. A onetime startup CFO, strategy consultant, and current angel investor and advisor, she has worked with startup companies such as Venmo, Etsy, and more.🌟 10 Key Takeaways
Have a repertoire of different openers to approach people with.
Wear a “talk piece” clothing item that invites people to comment on.
Approach as a peer vs. fangirling (which might occur anyway!)
Sit in a central public place to catch conference passers-by.
Message people right after you meet them about something you spoke about.
Text a “wish you were here!” selfie to mutual friends as a way to keep in loose touch.
Prepare for the emotional ups and downs you’re going to feel when you’re in large groups.
Embrace JOMO when you need a break, knowing when you’re at your best.
Don’t be afraid to call it early in the evening if/when you’re feeling New Friend Fatigue.
Follow up with connections after you return home by scheduling a dinner reunion.
✅ Try This Next: Alisa: Go and meet one new person—strike up a conversation with someone you wouldn’t normally speak to and see what happens. Jenny: Put yourself in the path of people. Is there an event, a book reading, even a bench in the park where you can encounter people you normally wouldn’t?🔗 Resources Mentioned
Alisa on the web, Twitter: @AlisaCohn, LinkedIn: @AlisaCohn
Articles: Andrew Wilkinson on Medium (founder of Tiny capital)
Video: Lizzo thanking Beyoncé at the Grammy’s
📚 Books Mentioned
From Start-Up to Grown-Up by Alisa Cohn
The Long Game by Dorie Clark
The Happiness Project by Gretchen Rubin
Presence by Amy Cuddy
The Courage to be Disliked by Ichiro Kishimi and Fumitake Koga
Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business
Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One
Life After College
🎧 Related Episodes
Other Shows: The Tim Ferriss Show — Alisa Cohn on Prenups for Startup Founders, How to Reinvent Your Career, the Importance of “Pre-Mortems,” and the Three Selves (#539)
Pivot: 298: Networking in a New Niche and Becoming Broadway Investors with Dorie Clark and Alisa Cohn, 285: Cultivating Influence with Jon Levy, 293: 🍝 Are you a Spaghetti-Twirler or a Spaghetti-Thrower?
Free Time:192: 📲 5 Creative Ways to Better Organize Your Phone Contacts, 196: What do Donuts, Coffee, Conversation, and Energy Cliffs Have in Common?, 043: From Start-Up to Grown-Up (and Coach to Author) with Alisa Cohn, 035: The Long Game with Dorie Clark
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Jul 28, 2023 • 26min
210: ⛵️Knot a Care—Sailing the Free Time Seas with Joy and Ease
“My little pirate.” That’s the nickname Michael has given me this summer, as it feels like many of my corporate (client) income boats have burned these last few years. At the same time, he says he has never seen me so happy and free. “You’re not in a raft anymore,” he said. “You’re in a sailboat. You don’t want to be in the big cruiseliner anyway.”Not to be confused with Sailing the Sea of Shiny Shoulds (I clearly love ocean metaphors!), today’s episode is all about embracing the agility and freedom that small business owners have to Sail the Free Time Seas. Heck, even one of the richest men in the world, Jeff Bezos, chose to buy a sailing yacht (albeit the world’s largest) rather than the more mechanized superyacht.🌟 3 Key Takeaways / Goldilocks
Three business vessel metaphors: the superyacht or cruise liner (large corporations), the sailboat (agile small-medium businesses), and the raft (struggling micro-businesses); the Goldilocks ideal lies somewhere in the middle.
Relationship with Risk: A super yacht-like small business, due to its size and resource intensity, may be less willing to take risks, akin to how a super yacht cannot afford to take on dangerous waters. On the other hand, a sailboat-like small business can quickly change its course and can be more open to taking smart risks, seeing them as opportunities for learning and growth.
Sail la Vie! Celebrate and embrace the full autonomy you have to set your own course—what you work on, with whom, and how you get there.
📝 Permission: Embrace your agile sailing yacht status as a Free Timer—we don’t all need to be (or buy or build) a superyacht :)✅ Do (or Delegate) This Next: Celebrate how far you’ve already come from your earliest days in the rickety raft stage of running a business to where you are now.🔗 Resources Mentioned
Articles: New Yorker—The Haves and The Have Yachts, NYT—5 Deaths at Sea Gripped the World. Hundreds of Others Got a Shrug.
TV Shows: Below Deck and Below Deck Sailing Yacht
JB’s Secret Substack: http://itsfreetime.com/secret
App: Substack (for reading others you subscribe to)
Community: BFF (promo code PODCAST)
📚 Books Mentioned
Love with a Chance of Drowning and The Worrier’s Guide to the End of the World by Torre DeRoche
Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business
Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One
Life After College
🎧 Related Episodes
SPARKED: JB on SPARKED with Jonathan Fields (Spotify playlist)
Pivot: 304: Through the Crux—Pivoting from Acting to Entrepreneurship with Ryan Devlin
Free Time:
050: Business-Building Metaphors—Are You Running a Machine, House, or Restaurant?
028: When the Financial Tides Recede
138: ⛵️ Stop Sailing the Sea of Shiny Shoulds
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Jul 25, 2023 • 56min
209: From Lost and Founder to Chill Work with Rand Fishkin
“When you’re in debt to the truth, the interest rate sucks.” That’s just one of many so-true-it-hurts gems in Rand Fishkin’s 2018 book Lost and Founder, an accounting of his leadership journey through the often-Faustian bargain of building a company through venture funding, for all but a select few types of start-ups who do benefit from that route.In this conversation, he shares why he dislikes the term lifestyle business, how he views some of his biggest business regrets in hindsight, his definition of chill work, and how he’s building his new business through open-sourced angel funding (and profit sharing) with a Delightfully Tiny Team of three.More About Rand: Rand Fishkin is the co-founder and CEO of SparkToro, makers of fine audience research software. He’s dedicated his professional life to helping people do better marketing through his writing, videos, speaking, and his book, Lost and Founder: A Painfully Honest Field Guide to the Startup World. When Rand’s not working, he’s usually cooking a fancy meal for the love of his life, author Geraldine DeRuiter. If you bribe him with great pasta or fancy cocktails, he’ll pull back the curtain on big tech’s dark secrets.📝 Permission: Hire an outside expert, a consultant or an agency, to do that thing that you know your business could benefit from.🔗 Resources Mentioned
Rand on the web, IG: @randderuiter, Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, Mastadon: @randfish
Companies: Tiny Seed Capital, HubSpot, SparkToro
Parable: “We’ll See”
📚 Books Mentioned
Lost and Founder by Rand Fishkin
All Over the Place by Geraldine DeRuiter
Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business
Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One
Life After College
🎧 Related Episodes
Office Hours with Spencer Rascoff: SEO Guru Rand Fishkin of SparkToro and Moz Reveals Why He Thinks Venture Funding isn't Always the Right Path for Start-ups
Free Time: 016: IP Licensing with Lee LeFever
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Jul 21, 2023 • 26min
208: 😇 Delight Is in the Details
What do Manuka honey, brown M&Ms, chocolate milk, vanilla gelato, rose petals, fair trade bananas, and Twizzlers have in common? No, they’re not ingredients for a bizarre ice cream sundae. Listen to today’s episode to find out . . .🌟 3 Key Takeaways
Botching the basics: **A term my friend and I use for companies who fail to deliver the baseline minimum expected customer experience. See also: unforced errors in Chapter 3 of Free Time, “Systematize the Spirit of Your Business.”
“God is in the details:” What might seem simple at a first glance often turns out to be more complex and require more time and attention to accomplish correctly. ****
Touring bands have backstage riders that specify details on stage design, sound systems, lighting, and an artist's green room wishlist.
📝 Permission: Be picky about the details! And to be incredibly detail oriented in your documentation.✅ Do (or Delegate) This Next: Create your own form of a celebrity rider, whether for your household, for travel and on-site client events, or even VIP days you might host with clients. I encourage you to go a little wild with this! Yes, figure out what your must haves are, but then imagine your ultra delightful details too :)🔗 Resources Mentioned
Video clip: Curb Your Enthusiasm—Pissing Off Mocha Joe (S10, E1)
TV Show: Bravo’s Below Deck (Prime, Peacock)
Articles: John Wooden’s Pyramid of Success
The Smoking Gun’s 300+ Backstage Riders; Sample Excerpts: John Mayer (2005), Adele (2011), Katy Perry (Page 1, Dressing Rooms), Justin Bieber (2010), Pearl Jam (2008)
PDF: JE’s Palm Beach Household Manual
Tools: Free Time Business Operations Dashboard (promo code PODCAST), Free Time Toolkit, ChatGPT
📚 Books Mentioned
The Essential Wooden by John Wooden
Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business
Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One
Life After College
🎧 Related Episodes
The Really Rich Podcast: Ep 22 with Rey Flemings: Buying What Isn’t For Sale, Post Luxury, & Kindness
Pivot: ChatGPT as Universal Intern and Permission Not to Be a Billionaire with Kevin Kelly
Expansive Impact and Spacious Scheduling with Sarah Young
Free Time: 200: 🎉 20+ Free Time Permission Slips for Small Business Owners (Part 1)
202: 🎉 20+ Permission Slips for Small Business Owners (Part 2)
068: Are You Running a Grumpy Business?
176: 🍪What’s the Chocolate Chip Banana Bread in Your Business?🍌
104: Save Someone Next Steps
146: New? Help Us Welcome the Next You (A Message for Your New Team Members)
194: 🤖 Top 10 Favorite Recent GPT Prompts for Creative Business Owners
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Jul 18, 2023 • 46min
207: Geeking Out on Client-Facing Pages + Favorite Notion Templates with Karen Allen
The best systems aren’t cumbersome sources of frustration collecting dust in the cloud—they save you so much time, that creating even more streamlined solutions becomes a personal passion. That’s the case for me and today’s returning guest, Karen Allen. We’re going behind-the-business, swapping ideas for client-facing pages, client tracking databases, course resources pages, personal journaling, and more. Although we are talking specifically about Notion (this isn’t #sponcon, I swear!), any software that has similar functionality can work :)More About Karen: Karen is a super-mom, healthy eater, and keynote speaker. After experiencing the tragedy of losing her husband, she picked herself up and set out to thrive for her son’s sake. She is the founder of the 100% Human movement, helping others develop a mindset of joy and abundance through her community. She also hosts the In the Details podcast, and be sure to check out our previous conversation in episode 191: Structuring Free Time as a Single Parent While Grieving and Rebuilding.🌟 3 Key Takeaways: Start Here
Create a database for prospective and current clients (coaching, speaking, consulting, etc.)
Within that, create a new client template that populates with information behind-the-scenes that you and your team will reference
Within that, create a shared page that you and the client can see and collaborate on
📝 Permission: Invest in the systems that are going to support your overall well-being.✅ Do (or Delegate) This Next: Examine an aspect of running your business that takes a lot of time. How could you bring that into a system, possibly with a template or two?🔗 Resources Mentioned
Karen on the web, IG: @karen.m.allen, LinkedIn, TikTok, podcast: In the Details
Free Time Operations Dashboard (promo code PODCAST), and one of Jenny’s earliest Notion pages (don’t laugh!)—(He)art of Podcasting course resources
Voxer Coaching: Sign-up for the waitlist to work with Jenny »
Video: Use Your Tragedy to Change the World
Tools: Notion, Loom, Canva, Gusto, Bench
People: Marie Poulin, Thomas Frank
📚 Books Mentioned
Building a Second Brain by Tiago Forte
One Line A Day: A Five-Year Memory Book
Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business
🎧 Related Episodes
In the Details: Introducing In the Details (Karen’s Story)
Free Time: 191: Structuring Free Time as a Single Parent While Grieving and Rebuilding.
111: Building a Second Brain with Tiago Forte
088: Why I Moved from Asana to Notion for Task and Project Management
148: How to Build a Business Operations Dashboard
182:🏚️The Challenges of Renovating a (Business) House while Living in It
177: “Do things that don’t scale” — On Books and Mission-Based Business Building with Readwise CoFounder Daniel Doyon
194: 🤖 Top 10 Favorite Recent GPT Prompts for Creative Business Owners (BFF Bonus Replay)
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Jul 14, 2023 • 22min
206: 🦊 Celebrate the Small Fixes, aka Your Business Rose 🌹
In 2021, I paid nearly a thousand dollars to hire a plumber to fix something that wasn't absolutely necessary and that no one would ever see. Why did I do that? And what on earth does it have to do with running your business? More on that in today’s episode, along with twelve examples of tiny things to celebrate in your business operations, even if they forever remain a secret to the outside world. Outside of big launches, awards, and accomplishments.🌟 3 Key Questions
What’s one tiny thorn in your shoe (business)?
What is one friction area that no one would notice if you addressed, but that would allow the work to flow more freely in your business?
How can you make your business operations one percent better every day?
📝 Permission: Celebrate (even as you may sweat) the small stuff: the invisible, incremental improvements, and the mere fact that you’re staying in the game!✅ Do (or Delegate) This Next: Make a list of ten tiny improvements you’ve already made this year, that no one would be able to see from the outside.🔗 Resources Mentioned
Chair: Eames Lounge Chair and Ottoman
Photos: Under the hood of Jenny’s sink: Before and After
Jenny’s secret pop-up project
📚 Books Mentioned
Atomic Habits: An Easy and Proven Way to Build Good Habits and Break Bad Ones by James Clear
The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business
Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One
Life After College
🎧 Related Episodes
Free Time: 117: Tiny Marketing Actions with Pamela Slim, 102: 12 Systems-Thinking Steps for Moving from Friction to Flow, 183: Letting Go of Productivity Guilt with Madeleine Dore
Pivot: 336: Letting Go of Productivity Guilt with Madeleine Dore (Free Time Crossover), 297: Create a Failure Resume, Khe Hy: RadReads x Pivot & Free Time
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Jul 11, 2023 • 55min
205: Why Paul Millerd Turned Down a $200K Two-Book Traditional Publishing Deal
From a certain outside perspective, turning down a $200,000 two-book deal from a traditional publishing house makes no sense. But for today's guest, Paul Millerd, it fits perfectly into his operating paradigm of what David Whyte calls the pathless path. After climbing the ranks in corporate consulting but feeling increasingly empty, Paul shifted away from chasing status and approval, and started his own business his own way. Now the mantra he lives (and writes) by is “coming alive over getting ahead.” In this conversation we dive into how he felt when he got the offer from the publisher, the "old Paul" resurfacing during his meetings with them, and how he has fared on his self-publishing journey in the two years that the book has been out.More About Paul: Paul Millerd is an independent writer, freelancer, coach, and digital creator. He is the author of The Pathless Path: Imagining a New Story for Work and Life, in which he explores the invisible scripts that constrain our lives. He is also the host of The Pathless Path podcast, where he talks with the most interesting people on unconventional paths.📝 Permission: To self-publish your book!🔗 Resources Mentioned
Paul on the web, IG: @pathlesspaul, Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, YouTube
Articles: Paul’s substack, essays, Reflections on Saying No to a Book Deal & Betting on Myself #219, Original Twitter thread, and From Blog to Book: How to Self-Publish on Your Own Terms
Swag: StickerMule (Bubble Envelopes)
Tools and Templates: Jenny’s Author Toolkit
📚 Books Mentioned
The Pathless Path by Paul Miller
The War of Art by Steven Pressfield
The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod
Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business
Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One
Life After College
🎧 Related Episodes
The Pathless Path with Paul Millerd
Pivot: 328: Accessing Your True Self Through IFS with Adrian Klaphaak
Free Time’s full Behind-the-Book Playlist (Spotify)
084: Sprinkling the First 1,000 Serendipity Seeds of a Launch
035: The Long Game with Dorie Clark
173: Cut Your Losses—Even While Pivoting in Public—with Khe Hy
162: Should You Self-Publish? (Part One)
164: Let’s Talk Royalties re: Publishing Options (Part Two)
203: Riding the Emotional Rollercoaster of Launching with Natalie Lue
196: 🍩 What Do Donuts, Coffee, Conversation, and Energy Cliffs Have in Common?
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