

Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks
9Marks
Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.
Episodes
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Jan 27, 2026 • 21min
On Church-Disrupting Protests (Ep. 317)
How should christians think about protests that stop church services?Mark and Jonathan talk about the recent disruption that happened at St. Paul Church.

Jan 20, 2026 • 41min
On What’s the Most Important Thing About a Church (Ep. 316)
Mark and Jonathan talk to Jimmy Scroggins about similarities and difference on how 9Marks' principle apply in a mega church context.

Dec 10, 2025 • 23min
On Reviewing the Year 2025 (Ep. 315)
Mark and Jonathan sit down and review this past year by talking about the transition and sharing a top 10 list of things 9Marks did.

Dec 2, 2025 • 22min
On Fighting Boredom and Repetition (Ep. 314)
Mark and Jonathan tackle the often-ignored relationship between ministry and boredom. They explore how dynamic churches sometimes chase novelty, yet find joy in the mundane aspects of faithfulness. Repetition in ministry is highlighted as vital for spiritual growth, challenging the idea that it's a flaw. They encourage weary pastors to persist, emphasizing that true joy stems from steadfastness rather than excitement. Finally, they discuss how practices like congregational singing and observing the Sabbath can reshape our hearts towards hope and resilience.

Nov 25, 2025 • 32min
On How to Talk to the Church about the Budget (Ep. 313)
Jamie Dunlop, an associate pastor and expert in church finance, shares valuable insights on discussing budgets with congregations. He emphasizes viewing budget talks as pastoral opportunities. Jamie advises on providing clear information so members can make wise decisions. He discusses the importance of admitting budgeting mistakes and adjusting as needed. Jamie also highlights creating budget flexibility and fostering trust in God’s providence without tying faith to budget sizes. His practical approach encourages healthy stewardship in the church community.

Nov 18, 2025 • 27min
On Weddings (Ep. 312)
Does the Bible require pastors to officiate weddings? How should we think about christian marriage ceremonies? In this episode Mark and Jonathan discuss the practice of weddings.

Nov 4, 2025 • 31min
On The Ordinances (Ep. 311)
Mark and Jonathan talk with Taylor Hartley on the new issue of Church Matters and on the Ordinances.

10 snips
Oct 14, 2025 • 28min
On Congregationalism (Ep. 310)
After 300 discussions, the hosts dive into the significance of congregationalism. They explore biblical foundations, emphasizing Matthew 18 and 1 Corinthians 5 on church authority. Historical practices illustrate early congregational involvement, while practical examples like budgeting decisions highlight community unity. The balance between elder authority and congregational input is examined, alongside strategies for encouraging member participation. They emphasize the need for training through involvement and setting clear expectations for new members.

Oct 7, 2025 • 32min
On Prioritizing Missions in the Church (Ep. 309)
Mark and Jonathan talk to Aaron and Harshit about their book Prioritizing Missions in the Church and how important it is for the life of the church.

Sep 30, 2025 • 26min
On Christianity in Brazil (Ep. 308)
Mark and Jonathan talk to Vinicius Musselman Pimentel about christianity in Brazil and book publishing.


