
Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks
Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.
Latest episodes

Feb 4, 2025 • 33min
On A Storm in the Desert Podcast (Ep. 285)
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Alex Duke and Alberto Jaquez about A Storm in the Desert, a new podcast series by 9Marks.Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert, here: https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/

Dec 17, 2024 • 23min
On Christianity in Indonesia (Ep. 284)
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Eric Yee, lead pastor of Harvest Mission Community Church of Jakarta, about Christianity in Indonesia.

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Dec 10, 2024 • 27min
On Internships Part 2 (Ep. 283)
Dive into the essentials of crafting effective pastoral internships. Discover how structured programs equip future church leaders through a mix of theory and hands-on experience. Explore the delicate balance of confidentiality in elder meetings, ensuring trust while fostering training. The discussion also highlights the enriching mentorship dynamics between interns and staff, emphasizing leadership growth. Finally, learn about the evolving perspectives on internships in ministry and the importance of collaborative dialogue among leaders.

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Dec 3, 2024 • 28min
On Being Convictional without Being Cranky (Ep. 282)
How can pastors hold strong beliefs while being compassionate? The discussion highlights the importance of forgiveness and support in ministry. Personal experiences reveal the thin line between conviction and graceful communication. Evaluative speech shapes our relationships, emphasizing the need for empathy and understanding. The conversation dives into the complexities of feedback, balancing critique with genuine praise. By acknowledging diverse beliefs across denominations, they stress the significance of grace rooted in one's relationship with God.

Nov 26, 2024 • 35min
On Internship Part 1 (Ep. 281)
The hosts dive into the evolution of church internship programs, highlighting their growing importance in shaping future pastors. They emphasize mentorship, practical experience, and the significance of a structured approach to these programs. The discussion also covers the intricate selection process and the role of writing in developing critical thinking among interns. Additionally, they explore collaborative learning methods to enhance engagement and foster camaraderie among participants, preparing them for effective church leadership.

Nov 19, 2024 • 20min
On Small Groups: Helpful, not Essential (Ep. 280)
Small groups play a vital role in church communities, offering support without being strictly essential. The conversation highlights the importance of balance between structure and freedom in these groups. Trust in leadership and discernment in assessing teachers are crucial for effective Bible studies. The dynamic between informal gatherings and structured groups is explored, emphasizing accountability and proper teaching. Lastly, practical tips are shared on enhancing small group discussions by aligning them with sermon topics for deeper spiritual growth.

Nov 5, 2024 • 29min
On How Sound Ecclesiology Protects the Gospel (Ep. 279)
Explore the fascinating significance of ecclesiology, the doctrine of the church, and its role in safeguarding the gospel. Delve into the essential versus non-essential theological issues that shape church membership and worship. Unpack the differences between congregational and elder-ruled governance, with insights from historical figures like John Knox. Discover the importance of baptism for church membership and the gospel's integrity, while examining how a biblical church structure can foster a vibrant faith community.

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Oct 29, 2024 • 28min
On Leading Inductive Bible Studies (Ep. 278)
Explore the transformative power of inductive Bible studies in building community within the church. Discover how a Wednesday night program evolved into a dynamic study of the New Testament, fostering deeper engagement. Learn effective techniques for leading these sessions, emphasizing questioning and active participation. Hear personal stories that illuminate the challenges and rewards of diving deeply into Scripture. This approach not only enhances individual understanding but significantly boosts congregational involvement.

Oct 22, 2024 • 30min
On the Church in Portugal, with Tiago Oliveira (Ep. 277)
In this episode, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Tiago Oliveira, a pastor of First Baptist Church of Lisbon, about the state of Christianity in Lisbon.

Oct 8, 2024 • 29min
Episode 276: On the Importance of Ecclesiology for a Church Plant, with Matt Smethurst
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Matt Smethurst, a pastor of River City Baptist Church, on the importance of ecclesiology for a church plant.
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