

Industry Relations
Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson
This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider's perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.
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Apr 3, 2024 • 55min
The NAR Settlement Part 2
Rob and Greg discuss NAR's $418 million settlement, PR challenges, and leadership issues. They emphasize the need for urgent reform to rebuild trust and navigate public scrutiny in the real estate industry. The podcast also touches on discriminatory practices, settlement dynamics, association discord, and the industry's perception crisis.

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Mar 27, 2024 • 1h
The NAR Settlement: The Good, the Bad, and the Unknown
Rob and Greg dive into the recent NAR settlement, discussing public perception, legal implications, and the future of the real estate industry. They explore the need for transparency in buyer agency agreements and legal protection for agents. Controversies surrounding a $2 billion line drawn by an organization and potential solutions for dissatisfied club members are also explored. The hosts even consider switching things up by doing a movie review in the next episode.

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Mar 20, 2024 • 42min
A Multi-Million Dollar Settlement: Unpacking NAR's Landmark Deal with the DOJ
Dive into a groundbreaking settlement between NAR and the DOJ, shaking up the real estate world. Explore the implications for referral networks, MLSs, and member compliance. Uncover the potential changes in steering practices, online platforms, and commission rates. Get ready for a new era in real estate practices and regulations.

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Mar 13, 2024 • 48min
Is the Real Estate Industry Getting Their Mojo Back?
The podcast delves into the future of real estate commissions, including concessions and steering issues. They discuss the need for improved buyer agreements and the impact of government regulations. Additionally, they explore the myth of the Australian model and propose solutions to industry complexities. In a fun twist, they brainstorm an app for arranged marriages called 'Tinder for Parents.'

Feb 28, 2024 • 53min
Does NAR have a competence problem?
Delving into the challenges faced by NAR, the podcast touches on insurance dilemmas, leadership competency crises, and the need for transparent communication. The discussion highlights financial strains on local associations, legal risks in real estate, and the impact of lacking crisis navigation skills. Critiques of NAR's handling of controversies, concerns over media exposure, and the call for competent leadership are emphasized throughout the episode.

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Feb 21, 2024 • 58min
DOJ Drops Statement of Interest in the Nosalek Case
The podcast discusses the Department of Justice's stance on the MLS settlement, affecting agents' commissions and the need for innovation. It explores steering practices in real estate, the evolution of commission rates, and the importance of raising ethical standards in the industry.

Feb 14, 2024 • 52min
Super Bowl Ripples
The podcast discusses Homes.com's Super Bowl ad campaign and its potential impact on industry giants like Zillow. They also explore the real estate industry's ongoing legal battles and how they may reshape the future for real estate professionals. The hosts discuss the financial advantage and impact of Zestimate and delve into a legal argument related to a famous case of indirect purchasers. They also touch upon the fear and caution surrounding legal issues in business and the importance of settling.

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Feb 7, 2024 • 57min
The FCC's New Rules on Lead Aggregators & Real Estate
The podcast discusses the FCC's new rules on lead aggregators and their impact on real estate professionals. The speakers delve into topics such as obtaining consumer consent, exceptions to automated messages, the potential penalties for lead generators. They also touch on the challenges posed by foreign entities, the importance of understanding and diversifying lead sources, and the discussions surrounding commission laws and spam.

Jan 31, 2024 • 54min
Free Advice to AREA: Focus on Professionalism
In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the potential showdown between NAR and the American Real Estate Association (AREA), an alternative to NAR. They also talk about the importance of professionalism in the industry, the motive behind luxury agents' opposition to the clear cooperation policy, and the idea of creating a new brand for realtors. The speakers emphasize the need for collaboration and express hopes for future updates and a potential CEO for a national organization.

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Jan 24, 2024 • 47min
Why Smaller Associations & MLS Organizations Should Make a Deal Soon
The podcast discusses the new FCC rules on lead generation in the insurance and real estate industries. They analyze the implications for platforms like Zillow and Redfin, as well as the challenges of buying and selling lists. They also touch on MLSs' curiosity and skepticism, potential lawsuits against title companies, and the importance of collaboration and general counsel. The hosts reflect on past predictions and hint at future implications of the FCC.


